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by Partha Rajagopal on 22 January 2008
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by riyaaz on January 22, 2008
it really gets under my skin when india does well against the aussies, not that i dont mind but for the simple reason when they play my country SA they suck big time, why is that ? It just so happens that everybody in the batting line-up is out of form dont talk about the one dayers they suck even more, when they play SA at home so we will see how SA does agianst later in the year when they go there
by Greg Smith on January 22, 2008
It would be great if you'd whip them so that we can come over and whip you ... how's that sound ? I'll give you the support NOW, in exchange for fairplay in India
by Partha Rajagopal on January 22, 2008
Australians took close to 30 odd years to beat India in India. And that too Ponting lucked out with a rain affected match at Chennai which was going India's way. If India manages to whip Australia at Adelaide, trust me, it will be very hard to beat them on their home soil. Pace bowling will not do much there and SA does not have a spinner of world class. Even Shane Warne found it hard to contain the Indian batsmen. The only team that used to handle India comfortably in India was Pakistan. No other team has been successful in taming India at home for the past few decades.
by Ozzie on January 23, 2008
@Partha, you said India could only be tamed by Pakistan in the last 2 decades-- 2 decades = 20 odd years, i have researched and Australia have beaten India 14 and lost 8 tests in that period, Pakistan have won 5 and lost 5 in that period....so how do you come to that assumption? is it you haven't done your research and shot your mouth off, I bet that would be the case
@Partha, just to make your statement even MORE RIDICULOUS in ALL TESTS Australia have WON 34 and LOST 16 vs India and if you look at Pakistan they have WON 12 and LOST 9 with an INCREDIBLE 38 Tests DRAWN ......you might want to retract that staement
by shem on January 23, 2008
Great observation Partha, on the taking it session-by-session part. Also, Sachin opening w/ Sehwag is a good idea. I just hope the Indian team reads your article :)
by Partha Rajagopal on January 23, 2008
I was referring to beating India in India for the past two decades and Pakistan team could do it comfortably. This is due to similarity in pitches and environment. Australia have won more tests against every nation overall, but their records in the past two decades in India are not as great as that not Pakistan. On Indian wickets only Pakistan have given India the hardest time.
OK you seriously need to explore cricket records when you make statements, giving someone a "harder time" doesn't constitute a win in any language. Here are the records IN INDIA -- Australia WON 12 lost 11 DRAW 12 TIE 1---Pakistan WON 5 LOST 7 DRAW 21 you see I cant figure out why you still argue when statistics do not lie especially in cricket .......those stats ARE ALL TEST Matches so don't bother arguing anymore you are on a losing topic
by Greg Smith on January 23, 2008
A big series victory in 2007 in Pakistan will give SA hope and we have a good 'pre-series warm up' in Bangladesh ! Harris and Botha are doing their homework and Amla is our inside man ! No, not easy, but this might be the ONE !
by Reply to Ozzie on January 23, 2008
Ozzie, I have been repeatedly saying for the past TWO DECADES. That means from 1986-87 onwards. During that time, Aus vs records show 4 wins for Aus and 6 for India. For Pak and Ind it is 3-3. Now tell me which record is good. The number of tests played is more for Pak vs Ind, with more matches drawn. This is because India could not force Pakistan out in their innings on many occasions, despite having home ground advantage. Your records are from 1969 onwards when Australia made the first visit to India. A lot has changed after the mid 80s. And Pak batsmen do in general very well against Indian spin bowlers than the Australians. Please double check your records before concluding on my statements.
by Oxzzie on January 23, 2008
[quote]@Partha, you said India could only be tamed by Pakistan in the last 2 decades-- 2 decades = 20 odd years, i have researched and Australia have beaten India 14 and lost 8 tests in that period, Pakistan have won 5 and lost 5 in that period....so how do you come to that assumption? is it you haven't done your research and shot your mouth off, I bet that would be the case[/quote] READ THE ABOVE YOU IDIOT I HAVE ALREADY POINTED OUT THE RECORDS, YOU NEED TO STOP TALKING THROUGH A HOLE THAT DOESNT EXTRACT WORDS
by Partha Rajagopal on January 24, 2008
Mr. Ozzie, thanks for the honors. I am referring to the records in India and not overall at home and abroad. Yes I have checked my records. If Australia had more wins in India the explain how they did not win a series between 1969 and 2005. All Aussie series wins between the countries came on Austrlian grounds during that time period. Please join me in the idiot club. You Would be more honored to take up the lead here.
by Brad on January 25, 2008
Kumble and Singh batted well but it really shows how much Aussie are missing Warne. The battle between Dhoni and Gilchrist has been pretty average while Dhoni has looked better with the gloves both have been very average with the bat i think Sangakarra must be regarded as the best now.
by Ozzie on January 25, 2008
[quote]Kumble and Singh batted well but it really shows how much Aussie are missing Warne. The battle between Dhoni and Gilchrist has been pretty average while Dhoni has looked better with the gloves both have been very average with the bat i think Sangakarra must be regarded as the best now.[/quote] I think you're right Sangakarra is probably the most consistent batsmen/keeper with Gilchrist,Boucher and Dhoni all vying for second best. It is unfair to compare a wicketkeeper of Boucher and Gilchrist's age to players like Dhoni and Sangakarra, In Gilchrist's prime there has never been a better wicketkeeper batsmen in Test or One day cricket.
Gilchrist and Sangakarra are in a different league to Boucher i have never thought much of him. Gilchrist is still the most damaging on his day its just he doesnt score big runs as often as he use to im sure most teams would love to have them in there own team.
by Greg Smith on January 25, 2008
Brad... you'd reckon Kylie Minogue is the greatest singer too ! Boucher has the STATS to back up his greatness. Obviously he's the greatest, he's done the most for development cricket in Africa, he brings a kick ass attitude to the game and isn't a mullet like Gilchrist who cannot match Boucher although he (Gilchrist) has had ALL the opportunity while part of the NO 1 team for a decade... come on ! Get real ... there is ONLY one and thats BOUCHER !
Heres the figures why he is - Gilchrist 414 dismissals in ONLY 96 tests Boucher 413 dismissals in 109 tests thats 13 tests MORE -- compare someone with 96 tests - Rod Marsh has 355 dismissals thats 58 LESS than Gilly --- stats NEVER LIE Boucher is just an average keeper and just to TOP it off Gilchrist has 5556 runs and Boucher has only 4064 runs, and thats game over you lose AGAIN
by BOUCHER is better than gilchrist on January 26, 2008
Brad/Ossie whoever (your likely an Indian fan in Culcutta)... you're missing the point... BOUCHER has done MORE, the STATS will swing around again and with ODI's and Twenty 20's Boucher will be ON TOP again... but the FACT is Boucher has done more... ACROSS AFRICA in cricket for MORE people and Gilchrist couldn't match that, and if Gilchrist was in the Proteas in place of Boucher during this era, the last 15 years would have been a mess... Gilchrist hasn't and can't do what Boucher does, end of story ! Gilchrist is a muppet !
by Greg Smith on January 26, 2008
Boucher is better... he has achieved his records in Africa in a difficult era for the Proteas, Gilchrist, behind the No 1 team of the decade... my grandmother could have Gilchrists stats !
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