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by Craig Hackney on 30 January 2008
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by greg on January 30, 2008
And it never will be. You hit the nail on the head with your last paragraph.
by Craig H on January 30, 2008
by harry the hornet on January 30, 2008
brilliant piece craig, on the nail. the brinkmanship of the bcci is a disgrace. we all know why the allegation was downgraded, money. the bcci have the money so call the shots in world cricket. it's time to deal with this problem.
by abc on January 30, 2008
It was Sachin's word versus Clarke's word.Credibility!
The writer is contradicting himself.On one hand he is saying that Hansen made an independent decision.On the other hand, he says that the decision was made under pressure from the bcci. Also, Peter Roebuck is contradicting himself.After the Sydney Test, he said he was surprised that the Indians had not gone home. Yet when they did threaten to go home, he didn't like it
by peace lover on January 30, 2008
root cuse for the problem is arrogance of oz players, in particular Ponting[arrrogant head],Hayden[bully face],Clarke[the liar,claimed bounced ball as catch in 2nd test]and finally Symonds[epitome of bad sportmanship].This issue wouldn't have arisen if oz players have belief in the simple priciples of spirit of game,loyality,truth in general.Harbhajan is only slurred after he faced hostility from Hayden for acknowledging Lee for his excellent yorker.
by Partha Rajagopal on January 30, 2008
Symonds is no angel. Nor is Harbhajan. In the recent past, both these players have contributed enough to controversies and issues. At Perth, both teams decided to follow strict discipline and it was wonderful to watch. From now on, this must be the course of action. Harbhajan and Sreesanth are foul mouths and will shoot themselves in the foot sometime soon. But Australians should not cry this much. They have taken for granted about their mannersims in international matches. From here on, players must be severely penalized if they indulge in any unsportsmanlike behavior. Mr. Symonds should know that he is not at war and it is ok to appreciate an opposition player for a good ball or a shot. Symonds is going to find his reception in India to be an ugly experience from here on. It is his own undoing. He must politely avoid touring there. It is not racial. But it is basically losing one's goodwill. I appreaicte the BCCI for standing up for its players. CA would have done the same. TCCB refused to tour Zimbabwe. C
CA may refuse the Pakistan tour. Are they flexing their muscles then? If security is an issue and then fairness is in a similar vein. India lost the Sydney test by unfair means. And on top of that, to Indians it looked as though the Harbhajan-Symonds issue seemed like a nice distraction. That is how most Indians take it. Just like most Aussies feel it is unfair to let Harbhajan go, the Indians have a different viewpoint. Who is decide who is right? Let the world learn from these episodes and move on. Australian players will have to make some hard adjustments from here on.
by Dhananjay on January 30, 2008
Look,there was no evidence to convict him in the first place,i ask you if you were in a different country and convicted of a charge that you didnt do(assuming Bhajji was innocent),knowing for a fact that there was 0 evidence against you,but still you got convicted!!wouldn't you be a bit jittery about the next hearing.Btw no source has been found about the pull out threats and the Indians have laughed at the 'chartered plane news'I would just like all of those here who are anti-India to think about the situation 50 years before,We were slaves..if in so short a time we have become a nation that is able to hold cricket to ransom speaks volumes for us as a nation and again none of it should have happened in the first place.The Australian board is being crticised right now imagine what the Indian board would face if they had not acted in the manner they did,the Pride of a billion people.I am sorry but this was not about cricket anymore it was the Pride of a Country.And I shall state this no Country however powerf
ul shall ever be allowed to insult the pride of India,no matter what steps have to be taken. Boycott is an Indian Protest that is very Powerful.Gandhi's favourite weapon :D .Imagine if the British Empire was chased out with the help of Boycott led by a half cloth man with a stick,how the hell can you expect any board Icc or CA to stand in front of a Boycott threat by the richest board in the world!!lol Again if there was evidence that proved beyond reasonable doubt that Harbhajan was racist then Harbhajan may never have played for India again.Racism is a big deal for us. We faced it,We fought against it.
by V ijay on January 30, 2008
If the ICC can suspend an Indian on the basis of no evidence at all once, do you blame the Indians for not trusting the system that has been run by white people for decades? Note that Mike Proctor banned Rashid Latif for 3 matches for claiming a bump catch, while Ponting got away scott-free claiming two bump catches within an hour. Can you explain how Australia, which is universally acknowleged as the worst behaving team in the world actually has the best record in terms of fines/penalties by the ICC? You (white) guys run the show. Why should we trust you?
by band afbab on January 30, 2008
You said This is not the Wild West; this is a matter of legal process in a developed nation. Looks like you are assuming that legal processes in a developing nation aren't fair, but in a developed nation they are. In your developed country, was the treatment of Aboriginals fair? What happened to your "legal processes"? Whether it's a developed nation or not, issuing a judgement of being a racist along with a ban without any proof, is WRONG. It's as simple as that. There was no proof, and the Aussies should learn some decent manners for a change. Symonds claimed - the test arena is no place for friendship. Maybe in a developed country, cricket is war, huh?
To abc, there is no contradiction. That Hansen made an independent decision is a credit to him, but that doesn't mean that the BCCI did not try to intimidate him. To others, Harbhajan was not convicted on no evidence, he was convicted on insufficient evidence, there is a massive difference. Procter asked the ICC a number of times to appoint someone independent to hear the original case, t6he ICC refused and Procter did what he thought was right. The process has been followed and the correct decision has been reached. If you have no respect for the process that the BCCI helped develop then they have no business playing the game.
by Big Ted on January 30, 2008
I don't think any of you guys should bother talking about: a) legal justice - because you are clearly not lawyers. People are convicted of crimes everyday, based on what witnesses heard! b) While acknowledging that Aboriginals were unjustly treated until the mid 1900's, with all due respect, that is history. And if you like we can talk about the brutality of the Indian Caste system anytime you want? c) Australia has had a player (D Lehmann) suspended for racial abuse, he apologised, he admitted to his crime, and we moved on. Let's face it Harbhajan Singh lied when he claimed he did not make a racist comment. d) The BCCI has threatened the process of the investigation. and CA and the ICC (they might as well change their name to the Indian Cricket Council) have shown that they are spineless in backing down. Quite frankly I would rather that the Indian's had gone home with their bat and ball. In fact they still can as far as I am concerned. The Australian cricket team are not Angel's but the BCCI's
as i was saying.. the BCCI's blackmailing of the game was a disgrace.
To band, I think you may be reading a bit too much into what I wrote, but yes there are developing nations where the legal system is not good. It was not a reference to India. Indeed this whole issue is not about India or Indians. It is about the actions of one man and if you are unable to accept that one of your citizens is capable of being a racist then you are kidding yourself. I'm not sure what you are referring to with regard to treatment of aboriginals, but yes, their treatment has been unacceptable in the past and our government will be issuing an opolgy on behalf of the nation on February 13. Again, there was evidence that Harbhajan was guilty, just not sufficient to convict him. I have not and will not defend any of Symonds actions, they are for him to live with. Finally, Australia's bullying on the field is condemned, but the BCCI's bullying off the field is lauded. Perhaps it is not only we who have double standards!
by Craig H on January 31, 2008
I think banning sledging would be a noble sentiment, but difficult to enforce. The tension and high stakes of test match cricket produce a pressure cooker situation and people will inevitably explode. We should not encourage it, but it cannot be eliminated. Sledging is a cricket tradition and goes back to WG Grace - it is not an Australian invention. As a final point, we should not forget the genesis to this whole episode was the monkey chants coming from Indian crowds, had that not happened, this whole issue would have a much lesser significance. Symonds has already received a poor reception in India and I'm not sure how much worse it can get although I'm surprised that you think being racially abused by crowds isn't the worst that can happen. Cheers.
by Percy Schneider on January 31, 2008
I think Craig H has no credibility on this issue. Any decisions that goes against Australians is inherently unfair! In his jingoist thoughts Mr Hackney forgets where the new epicentre of power is located. White Australians and South African Mike Procter complaining about racism is laughable. Mr Craig you have perhaps forgotten about the "stolen generation" when hundreds and thousands of aboriginal children were forcibly removed from their families. Don't forget that Australia is the only country in the developed world that has been condemned as racist by United Nations in 2000. As recently as 2004 Australian Prime Minister John Howard had claimed that there was no "stolen generation" (He later apologised to Aborigines offended by the claim). Only in 1967, following a referendum, Aboriginals gained full legal citizenship rights to the country they had lived in for 50,000 years! John Howard's campaign to cut Asian immigration is now well-documented. To me this incidence is the culimination of of long-standing
by Partha Rajagopal on February 05, 2008
At work places there is enough stress and tension. Sexual harassment or racial prejudice cannot be expressed no matter what. Politeness has to be maintained under all circumstances. When players are in the middle, they are at work. They'd better learn to behave or face penalties. If penalties are imposed, trust me, the system will self adjust. The umpires on the field should be given the right to penalize players for any unsportman-like conduct. If apartheid can be eliminated, trust me, so can sledging be. Players will have to learn to control their emotions or they simply don't get to play. Will you like a foul mouthed colleague at work? The same goes everywhere. Try it and it will work.
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