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Why there's no bond between Stephen Fleming and Graeme Smith
South African fans remember the dressing down the Black Caps skipper gave a young Smith in 2004. And now the mediocre Kiwi has retired, it's time to redress the balance.
by Greg Smith on 27 March 2008
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TS Elliot couldn't be happier than Graeme Smith when it comes to measuring and summarising retiring New Zealand pretender Stephen Fleming.Elliot measured his life out in coffee spoons, while Smith would no doubt go for something more New Zealand-like and rustic, perhaps a great wooden spoon.
Proteas fans have memories like African elephants and Fleming will forever stick in their memories as New Zealand's Captain 'Slimy' and a perfect negative example and cautionary tool for educating children about victims of the dark side of sport.
Maybe the Black Caps earned that name and colour coding somewhere during the Fleming era of captaincy. Looking at the belittlement that the old-timer heaped on the young Smith during his career, I think it's fitting that Fleming gets a proper send-off, or even payback.
But it was poor Daniel Vettori who had to bear the brunt of the revenge this season, as the South Africans sent the Black Caps home in bodybags.
The much-vaunted Shane Bond was one of the first to exit; he knew he'd bitten off a wee bit more than he could chew. In the end, the score was settled and the Kiwis have learned a vital lesson in cricket - don't box above your weight, and if you do, then keep it above the belt.
As for Fleming, he had the audacity to wade into Smith (then a 24-year-old) and give him a blistering piece of his mind. The youngster was obviously shaken, never having experienced such devilish behaviour. Fans hit the record button and stored the tape.
Now, the old devil Fleming has hung up his boots and Proteas fans are doing some reckoning for the Dark One.
Fleming has scraped his way into the 40 club when it comes to averages. In modern cricket, even he will tell you, that's just not good enough. The 27-year-old Smith weighs in at almost 49 (and counting).
Smith in fact, has overshadowed Fleming in every department, except for ducks - Smith's four double tons against three for Fleming and a scoring rate of 61 per 100 balls against 45.
The bitter pill for Fleming to swallow, along with his words aimed at Smith, must be the fact that his career is now over, while Smith just keeps churning out runs and runs and runs (and records).
Stevie, New Zealand cricket fans will place you on their altar and worship your mediocrity.
Comments (17)
by big ted on March 28, 2008
I think you will find that Fleming was one of International Crickets best captains. Definitely NZ's best. He has also got a better record against Australia than Smith with the bat. A Kiwi team led by Fleming was always tough but fair. Graeme Smith well, what can I say, he had a great series against a depleted England, and he loves getting runs against the minnows of world cricket.
And if I remember correctly at least one of the confrontations between Smith and Fleming was caused by Smith's continual whinging about the world being against South Africa. You know that old one - The world is picking on us. The incessant flow of excuses from Smith must be very embarrassing for you guys.
by Brad on March 28, 2008
Aussie find New Zealand harder to beat than south africa im pretty sure Aus would rather play south africa in any form of cricket because they know when the pressures on they will choke where NZ rise and dont make fools of themselves.
Ill remember Fleming as someone who did great with an average team and Smith well i probably wont remember him because hes a pretty boring cricketer terrible to watch bat and arrogant wannabe in the field who scores against B grade sides please your chokers arent worth talking about!
by Greg Smith on March 28, 2008
Smith was hiding his disappointment in New Zealands DESPERATE win-at-all-cost, no limit how low we'll go, tactics. John Bracewell treated Eric Simons (a perfect gentleman) in such a disgusting manner off the field it left the SA camp surprised. The alternating schizo BEGGING and the SLAGGING nature of the Kiwis was the 'lowlight' of the tour in 2004 and shows South Africa bending over backwards to accomodate the Kiwis who just took the piss and total advantage of every concession the Protea's gifted them. To go down in history as 'sneaky, low class, underhanded form' from Bracewell and Fleming... A win at ALL cost tour !
Let me guess Greggy, you lost that tour didn't you. And why did you lose it? - Because they were picking on you. That is not fair mate.
yeah, yeah... winning is easy ... I bet you a BILLION that I could emulate New Zealand and give AUSTRALIA a hiding to nothing in South Africa using NOTHING but poor sportsmanship... these are the HALLMARKS of AUSSIE and KIWI - bickering ! India's season of spite in OZ was confirmation of how CLASSY Aussie behave ! The Kiwi's just mirror your yob behavior, your country cousins... Tour to New Zealand, try talk to their coach like a human being and get nothing but filth spewed at you, get begged to sacrifice victories to help the local clubs and unions by playing in Baltic blizzards and badlight and have Captain Slimy show his gratitude with diggs around every corner... you fella's value victory... go on... TAKE the wins, if thats how you WIN, then we'll rather walk away. New Zealand isn't a TEST cricketing nation... they haven't got the facilities, the weather, the players or the right character for the game... backyard pretenders...
by Raja kumar on March 28, 2008
Gary, What do you have to say about all that talk about fighting India in the gutter etc etc etc....The first day they arrived they showed there true colors when ur coach declared that he wanted no confrontation with us.....They have got there tails between the legs so quickly? eh....You r just any other protea--a show off without anything to show for...at best a big talker
by big ted on March 29, 2008
Greggy do you want me to send you the links again for Boucher's sledging and Dorkel's shoulder charge on Gul just to remind you what poor sportsmanship is all about. Feel free to ignore all the proof as you normally do. Smith is just a whinging Yarpie
You are right. Bracewell should be locked up, he is a foolish man. Fleming though is an astute and fair cricketer. Smith, well as I said we only ever see his whinging, and his back as he trudges back to the pavillion.
by Greg Smith on March 30, 2008
... their is an old saying African Proverb: Until lions have their own historians, tales of the hunt shall always glorify the hunter. With India having more 'cricket journalists' than the rest of the cricketing world put together, I'd like to warn... don't be a SUCKER and believe everything you read... like the Australians do.
by Raja kumar on March 31, 2008
Well , I think you have a short memory...It was you who had talked about south africa fighting India in the gutter, not an Indian journalist!
by Mark Brown on April 03, 2008
Wow, this whole article reeks of hypocricy and ignorance. Firstly Smith is one of the most hated cricketers in world cricket. He was accused of racially abusing Dwayne Bravo, he abused Flintoff and Vaughan, he abused Pietersen for leaving South Africa (a bloody smart move to leave IMO) and the whole Australian team hates him. Now if you ask anyone (bar your ignorant self) what they think of Stephen Fleming I am sure the huge majority of replies would be in the positive for him. Smith is an idiot, and the whole cricket world is well aware of that. Pull your head out and grow up chump.
by Greg Smith on April 03, 2008
Too clever is dumb... and to explain in simple terms you might be able to understand 1. Sean Fitzpatrick is one of the most hated rugby union players in history (and also one of the greatest) 2. Smith is a genius, beyond your comprehension - with, I might add, the wicket of Hussey (imagine fueling hatred aimed against him and using it to get under his opponents skin a la bowling a few nasty overs at the Aussies in December... too delicious !) 3. Abused ? Rubbish ... all your examples are myopically one-sided, I'd say at most a bit of banter. Bravo and Flintoff give and take... Pietersen ? I think he called Smith a muppet while trying to upstage him from his shadow and I think if Matthew Hayden decided to skip over to England, he too would face a little stick from the Aussie fans, Pietersen must live with his decisions, life and history will judge him Sting has a song, Englishman in New York... well the Pietersen family are nupee's ... nothing more than legal aliens in Africa, and TRUE South Africans traditionally afford little respect to drifters who come and go, as the easy running gets tougher, while others knuckle down... its a cultural thing, we detest coakroaches. And finally, Stephen Fleming is a typical Kiwi, a nupee, riding Anglo Saxon coat-tails... the 2004 was a disgrace, reminding me of how cowardly the British could mow down people in battle and then claim the highground... pathetic, just like you !
And smart move, you reckon, for leaving SA ... ha, ha... horrid place South Africa, please tell the 10 million immigrants that have flocked in super quick time, and the others beating down the door .. horrid, horrid place, please all go to Australia, the UK, the USA and such and such, pretty please !
by Mark Brown on April 05, 2008
Yet more hypocricy and ignorance. Keep spouting your drivvle and someone might believe you, hell, you might even fool yourself. But please dont bother with the less ignorant, they will see through you in a heartbeat and look at you for what you really are..a hypocrite in denial.
by Brad on April 06, 2008
Mark your banging your ahead against a brick wall the guy is a scumbag he has no clue about anything decent and hes pretty much the cricket section of this site with all the crap he dribbles on about hes a peanut.
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