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by Pete Lyons-McCarthy on 03 October 2008
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I love it when Sol Campbell gets his usual warm welcome when whoever he plays for go to White Hart Lane to play Spurs.
I mean, it's so much fun that even the West Ham fans joined in a few seasons back. In fact, Sol thought it was so funny and was laughing so hard that he failed to show up in the second half.
We've said all there is to say on many previous occasions, and you either agree with us or you don't - and, quite frankly, if you don't then you're no real football fan anyway. I can guarantee Dimitar Berbatov will get a fairly warm welcome when he returns to the Lane, but at least there was a sort of honesty about his departure, albeit somewhat clouded as to the real reason (I never once mentioned money and tapping up, did I?).
Robbie Keane had, in my opinion, a status far exceeding his ability yet I think he'll get more of a mixed reception, because there were some, like me, who thought it was money for nothing but those (and fair play to them) who absolutely worshipped him.
However, Mr Campbell is a different case altogether. Berbatov and Keane were never our own - we bought them and they had to learn (obviously, they didn't) about playing for the shirt and what that means to any club's supporters. But Campbell knew from the day he signed YTS forms what playing for the Lilywhites entailed.
For non-Spurs supporters, just take your favourite homegrown talent and think about this for a moment - Gerrard for Liverpool, Scholes for Man United, Terry for Chelsea. There aren't any homegrown English players at Arsenal so that counts them out, but you understand my point I hope.
If Gerrard went to Man United, how would you feel if a) he went for nothing, b) he said continually that he would sign a contract without question, and c) he made an advert with Kevin Ratcliffe on the eve of a cup semi-final, expressing what it means to be the captain of Liverpool and what the club's history means to him?
Liverpool fans reportedly sent death threats to Gerrard when he was proposing to sign for Chelsea a few years back. What would they have done if he was going to sign for Man United? And for a record fee!
Spurs turned down many offers because of Campbell's lies and deceit. He calculated exactly what he was doing, and that was to shaft Spurs - and all us supporters.
We have nothing but our voices to vent our disgust at this despicable piece of garbage, and therefore in any game he's playing, I hope and pray that we let him have it each and every time. However, this does not make Spurs fans racist - although our wonderful tabloids don't seem to see the difference.
The last time I looked at Ledley King, I could have sworn he was a black guy. I have to say this because I judge on ability, not race or colour. Didier Zokora is another black man playing for Spurs, as are Darren Bent and Jermaine Jenas. There are loads of black, brown and pink footballers who ply their trade at White Hart Lane. In fact, Tottenham is an area that is probably the most inter-racial in London. But suddenly, if we have a go at Campbell, we've got racist fans!
Well, of course we have racist fans. We boo King - hate him, to be exact - we shun Bent, we throw bananas at Diddy, the whole racist thing is alive and kicking at WHL. Well, it is if you believe the tabloids!
They've managed to twist the situation around and imply the chanting aimed at Mr Campbell was racist when, if they had two ears and half a brain, they'd know it was clearly no such thing. Today I turn on the TV only to find some bloke from the Kick Out Racism campaign sticking his oar in. WE'RE NOT RACIST.
Some well-meaning ''new age'' fan had the temerity to say: "We don't want that sort at football any more." What sort is that, then? The sort that have been wronged? The sort that turn up and sing their lungs out for THEIR club? Who fill their stadium with far more pride and passion than the players that continually let those same fans down, time and time again?
Sorry old fruit, but it's YOUR sort that football doesn't need attending games if you can't see how we feel.
Comments (115)
by Isaac JandeRamos'Knob on October 03, 2008
Couldnt agree more. Its like Winston Churchill deciding to eat a frankfurter instead of a good ol' Cumberland. Hes scum and always will be. Dont see how the police will punish spurs --> a fine? who cares.... were loaded!
by mike hall on October 03, 2008
What a load of rubbish. I sit near the away fans at Fratton. They were singing "He's black, he's bent, his arse is up for rent, Sol Campbell". They also sang; "Sol, Sol, wherever you may be, Not long now til lunacy, And we couldn't give a f***, When you're hanging from a tree, Judas **** with HIV." - Deeply unpleasant, homophobic and an undercurrent of lynching. I've been going to Pompey for 34 years. We had Redknapp go down the road and come back playing for our most hated rivals, we sang some stuff at him that was awfful, (neither racist nor homophobic), so this isn't an 'our fans are more pc than hyour fans' comment. It's not about who you support - what those Spurs sang was racist, homophobic and frankly it crossed the line of what is acceptable. Rather try to defend it you should decide whether you are a football fan first or a human being.
by rich p on October 03, 2008
Well said, finally someone writing about this. Can anyone tell me what the supposed 'Racist' chant was?? Would love to know
by P Rendle on October 03, 2008
It doesn't happen in Rugby, Cricket, Ice Hockey or Baseball or for that matter any other sport. However if you support Tottenham Hotspur FC you can be as arrogant, abnoxious and insulting as you like because that's the way it is and if you don't like it, shut up. Nah, wrong, you're in a minority but you defend anti-social behaviour by claiming patriotism. RUBBISH
by Norman Lipton on October 03, 2008
Well written article. When did he ever turn round and give a reasoned arguement as to why he left us, to go to the gooners? He is a coward no guts to stand his corner and give an explanation, oh yea he stood tall and told us a pack of lies. I personnaly wouldn't waste my breathe on that sort of person.
by Adspur on October 03, 2008
Glad someone has come out and sad something (albeit on Sportingo). I think most of us know the chant that is directed at C*mpbell and I for one, cannot see any racism in it. None of the familiar and vulgar trappings of the racist fan were present at Fratton Park ie monkey noises etc, so where has this whole racism thing sprung from. Does booing a black player constitute racism regardless of the reasons behind the booing? If Spurs fans were racist then at Portsmouth last Sunday, the fans would have been booing almost non stop as 11 out of the 22 players who took to the field, were black, and included Defoe (another ex Spur) who got a very warm reception from the travelling support.
by jimmney cricket on October 03, 2008
Arry wasn't complaining when his WHU fans were hissing at us to remind us of thwe gas chambers. Not a peep outta him then! LOL!
by Keith Preston on October 03, 2008
If the Spurs fans were racist how do you account for the reception Jermaine Defoe got from them and the standing ovation when he was subbed. Even Pamerot and Kaboul received applause. Racist I think not. Campbell left in unsavoury circumstances and will never be forgiven by the Spurs fans.
by The Manc on October 03, 2008
I have to say i agree with you mate. I heard what was being sung, and Id say every team in England would have chants just as nasty about some random that was dispised for whatever reason. I didnt think the chant was racist, I understand the hatred directed at Campbell is not cause he's black, its cause he left the way he did. Id of thought alot of match going fans across the country would feel sympaty (for want of a better word) with Spurs fans. 90% of chants about the opposition are rude or 'out of order' to some degree, and this could be a dangerous road we, as football fans, are all being led down. It could end up that even the simplist chants like 'who ate all the pies' would be ruled as over the top, and not allowed, seeing as we were implying that some poor chap was overweight. No one is condoning racism (how some of the European countries get away with fines ranging from £5000 to £15000 for racial abuse is absurd), and I wouldnt want to hear ANY racism in supporters chants, ever. I dont want to sound like a mindless thug, who shouts abuse from the terrace at any chance, I just wanted to say, as a genuine United fan with no Spurs ties (or mates), I think this is being blown out of proportion, and it could have a knock on effect for the rest of us...
by Joel Cairo on October 03, 2008
Right, seven years on and you are (a) still not over it, and (b) self-righteous in your support of racism, homophobia, and genuinely disgusting behavior. You're proud of your bias and prejudice. Could you not at least express your anger without resorting to every possible bias in the book? You and the fans who went with you there are disgusting
If you read the comments you'll see what the chant was. The "He's black, he's bent" must have got about 10 airings during the game. Don't tell me there is any way it's not racist. Norman Lipton, if you want to know why he left you look in his trophy cabinet. And before you start in on us, he is playing for Pompey because we pay him a truckload of money, he didn't have to move and he couldn't get in the Arsenal team any more. Those are the facts of professional football. That doesn't give anyone the right to abuse him in this way. I said the same when he played for Arsenal at fratton and out fans sang "gay and you're mental" at him- it's despicable to have a go at people for things they can't change, like sexuality, race and any mental illness they may or may not suffer. There are plenty of good old English swear words to have a go at former players, you don't need to start in on him being black.
by Fuzzy Dunlop on October 03, 2008
There is a difference between outright racism, and abuse of one man. Sure it's not right to use racist abuse, and I wish the fans who do this could manage to get extreme abuse to him without resorting to that aspect. Because it is the hatred of one man that is the issue and not black people in general. But of course every time anything racial happens, most people will jump on the bandwagon and start a bullying campaign as such towards the so called racists. That is just the same thing as racism really (in many ways), because people declaring how superior they are and how they are better because they are not racist basically amounts to the same thing as the original problem. As I say, I'd much rather it didn't have to go this way every time but lets all just face the fact that it is hatred of one man who happens to be black, and justified hatred at that. Also you cant deem Spurs fans as racists for this, because a: it's not everybody who joins in to these insults, b: even some who do wont be really in agreement with the actual statements but at the football people will get swept up in the moment, with passion playing it's part, and c: we never target anybody for their colour, we target Campbell for other reasons but sadly then use his colour, but in all honesty if he were white it would just be something else personal that we could find to use, but the point is it's about Campbell not races of people or nationalities that actually are relevant. He knew that he would never be forgiven, he knows what football fans are like and surely has been prepared for it all along. The nature of the abuse is what gets focused on, but surely the abuse itself should be the issue for Campbell. Do you think any of our black players current or former, actually believe Spurs fans hate black people? Of course not, they know we hate Campbell. That's all.
Be serious mate, how can you possibly equate a chant that starts "he's black, he's bent" with "who ate all the pies"? Jimney cricket, West Ham fans 'hiss' at Fratton Park, and so did Spurs fans. It is called going "sssssshhhhhhh", and has nothing to do with gas chambers, unless you are really hysterical. I thought the Spurs fans were quite funny, the away fans at Fratton can't hear what the Fratton End is singing because of the acoustics, so often they are going 'sssshhhh' when in your other ear a chant is belting out.
Mike - Saying the words "He's Black..." is not racist whatsoever. See if you can work out why!
by Gunga Doon on October 03, 2008
The Pompey fans are lying about some of the abuse as well. Its quite shocking espically considering the treatment they handed out to Redknapp. How can you label the ethnically diverse fanbase in England racist.
by gunga doon on October 03, 2008
Mike Hall You are talking shit. Please stop lying
by thfc supporter on October 03, 2008
What a load of horseshit, how is stating he is black racist??? It was to extend the song slightly. If it was he is a black c*** fair enuff. Grow up, abuse to players you hate is normal so you guys have never made an offensive chant to southampton players or fans?
by Norman on October 03, 2008
Its about time you people got to know the difference between hate and racism. Its true what people say "A little knowledge is dangerous" You might accept lack of loyalty, and out and out lying some of us still have principles
by danny blanchflower on October 03, 2008
Is harry Redknapp going to take action against the portsmouth supporters who abused him when he went to Southampton!!!!!
by The Gunga Doon on October 03, 2008
Actually I have a season ticket at Spurs Like I said Portsmouth fans are pathetic cretins and you are lying oaf. There has been no racist comments , its just fantasy from a patheticsmall time football club
Ok look, racism is all about the context being used. I used to watch my local non league team back in the mid-90's. There was a player called Wayne Brown who was black. He was extremely well liked by the fans as he used to get up from the back and score some big goals for the club. The song the fans had for him was this: "He's big, he's brown, he knocks defenders down....Wayney Brown...Wayney Brown" Did he get offended or believe us to be basically abusing him as we highlighted his colour? No of course not because of the context. Now, Campbell's colour is also being highlighted but the context is negative so it's seen as racist, but the motivation for that context has nothing to do with his colour or others of his colour, but is a personal attack on one man. So everybody CAN say it's racist but I doubt they could say why, other than that the word black was used to identify him, but why was that? Anyway I believe the political correctness problem we have in this country is purely designed to restrict freedom of speech and even freedom of thought. Unfortunately the majority seem so brainwashed already that they only have to hear the word black and see racism. But in truth it's hatred of one individual who happens to be black. Is it really wrong to use his colour when formulating this abuse? Well it's silly more than anything, because it means we all have to go through this nonsense afterwards, but once you get your head around the fact that it's Campbell who is the target and not black people in general then it all kind of falls apart. Dont fall for the supression of freedom of thought that is going on. Think for yourselves.
by Gavin on October 03, 2008
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sol C*ntball is black, no? You sign him up to a contract for X ammount of time and pay him for it so technically, his arse is for rent, no? The only bit that is touch and go is the calling him bent, of which there is no proof. Was it derogitory towards C*ntball? Yes, Was it racist? No!
on October 03, 2008 on October 03, 2008
Utter rubbish Stop making stuff up What about United fans and the Park song? Is that racist because he's Korean Do Fuck off and do one you sad little small time idiot. Portsmouth are probably far more racist than a club like Spurs. Never met a black or asian Pompey fan?
by Spurs Gog on October 03, 2008
I have not read any reports that indicate the taunts had been racist, nevertheless I believe this vendetta against Sol Campbell does my club dishonour given that he left in 2001. No one is bigger than the club and we should move on. Referring to the bos from down the road. I feel Mr Wenger should address the anti-semitic taunts and chants, launched by his club's supporters, season after season during the north London derby! He should do this before he opens his mouth about any one else.
Actually I have a season ticket at Spurs
Like I said Portsmouth fans are pathetic cretins and you are lying oaf. There has been no racist comments , its just fantasy from a patheticsmall time football club
by Lee Pellegrini on October 03, 2008
Mike the pompey fan, typical statement from a wet nose left wing Guardian reader, i was at the game and not once was the spurs fan chanting any racsit abuse at Campbell. The other song that they sung was not "homophobic" where does it state that he is Gay? anyone can catch HIV. I remeber what the Pompey fans were saying about Redknapp when he was went to Southampton..... Hope he dies, also things about his wife and kids .....talk about double standards .................Muppets
Do you want to bet then? Mike you are a small time cretin supporting a provincial no mark club . I'd bet my bottom dollar Portsmouth are a far more racist club than Spurs. Stoip making stuff up and making a mocekry of a serious issue like Racism, its utterly pathetic you sad little man
Exactly Our Michael is lying
by max decharne on October 03, 2008
Oh so, Spurs fans weren't being racist so it's ok that they were being violently homophobic. Suggesting another human being should die it a vile way to act whichever way you cut it.
by Martin McCullagh on October 03, 2008
is sol the judas c*** black or not
by mike Hall on October 03, 2008
Also Mike, your exclamation that my and others way of thinking "belong in the 70's" is classic anti-racism mentality. The sum of which amounts to you believing yourself to be "better" than us based on thoughts and opinions. Much the same as someone truly racist, who believes themselves to be better than someone else based on colour, nationality, race and then onwards to sexuality, political persuasion, religious beliefs etc etc etc.... Think about that.
by lEE on October 03, 2008
Where was the homophobic and racsit abuse???????????????reply when you know what your talking about.
Mike you are making things up yet again. What you are doing is trivilising a serious issue. Maybe you should ask yourself why there are very few if any black or asian portsmouth fans and why there Spurs have such an ethnically diverse fan base. Start fixing things at your own house, instead of lying about others Portsmouth a re a small time football club
So is the Park Song racist Michael? Why do Portsmouth not have any black or asian fans?
Why did Portsmouth fans sing about Redknapp dying? Why didn;t he complain And I;'m afraid you're making this chant up. What a shame you are trying to triviliase racism.
by Lee on October 03, 2008
No such chants took place, spurs are not racists, have Pompey fans apologies to Harry or Darren Anderton for the abuse
by John Maillard on October 03, 2008
I wasn't at the game. Nor am I a mindless thug. I am not white nor am I black but I fail to see how these chants were racist. I do not condone the the abusive sentiments bur racist they were not. Probably not even Homophobic. Is calling a black man black racist? Is calling a gay man gay or bent homophobic? I don't think Campbell is gay so the fans are simply trying to wind him up as has been done to many a footballer for many a year and admittedly it did go too far. But lets be mindful not to blow this out of proportion in a world that is already getting far too PC for its own good! If i'm going to be branded a racist for saying that a black man is black then I really am in trouble. Or should I be shocked, saddened and start legal proceedings the next time someone points out that I am brown?
by the Gunga Doon on October 03, 2008
Ity mentions that in Korea they eat dogs. Isn;t that a derogatory ethnicstereotype but because its done in praise its ok? Utter rubbish Sort your own house out, Pomnpay are a vile little club with mindless buffoons supporting them. Redknapp should have complained about the death threats he recieved
Mike Hall... I wasnt saying those two chants were the same, why the fcuk are you twisting words or misunderstanding points being made here, to make your case look stronger? I can appreciate where you're coming from, but you need to meet us half way here. The majority of posts are in disagreement with you (im not saying that makes us right and you wrong, but it tells its own story). Anyway, without dragging the arguement into the farcical... Its clear no one agrees with racial abuse (while we'll disagree with what is and isnt racial abuse, we would all be against it), and also bringing into question his sexuality. But my original point which you ignored, was then is that the end of all chants that mention when someone is slightly overweight? or ginger haired? ugly? or shags 60 year old hookers? You make it out that you're whiter than white, and we're all the nasty rascists, so tell me please,what in your opinion, is the 'worst' chant you ever sang along to, that wasnt intended to slightly upset the opposition??? Are all Pompey fans this nice???
I believe it's Park, Park, where ever you may be, you eat dogs in your home country... No mention of Korea in itself. Whether or not it's in praise of him or not, it's a generalisation based on prejudice... and has a derogatory undertone. I dont think there's any question that Campbell was subjected to homophobic chants. However, the racism card is a stronger one to pull out, hence, the media frenzy over it. Sad but true that a racist remark trumps a homophobic remark in newspaper column inches. The fact he isnt gay and is black makes the racism slant a lot easier to stick. I think it's called playing the percentages.
by Essexian76 on October 03, 2008
What happens when we give the same stick to Berbatov and Keane, whats the tabloids going to say about us then ? Keanes white and Irish, so we'll be what then, and Berbatov's just a C**T, so are we sexist als? What kind of football fan or man for that matter can defend Campbell ? ,I think it says more about that person, than us quite frankly! We loved the guy and was rewarded by being crapped on from lofty height, and WE'RE IN THE WRONG?
by Marti McCullagh on October 03, 2008
so he is black i was called casper the ghost the other day is that racsit
by Mother Theresa on October 03, 2008
Mike Hall feck off and join the peace core! You give us do gooders a bad name!
We're not mates Mike. You annoy me. Like I said, I appreciate where you're coming from, but talking to you rationally is next on impossible. I talk in extremities to make a point, you pick up the most extreme of my extremities and base your arguement on that. I dont think Rooney shagging the 60 year old is anywhere near the same thing, that was my fcuking point. Although It still might upset him to hear ye sing about it? maybe thats a medical condition he cant shake off, maybe she is an old dear that he has feelings for???!!! Now I am talking crap. The point I wish to make, which will be my last post wasting my time with you, is that I think you are a twat - and thats nothing to do with race, sexuality, age, the team you support, where you live, or how you hold a fork. You are an annoying tool...
by Chris Crampton on October 03, 2008
So because we say he is black thats racist? he is black we are stating the obvious. We have numerous black fans and they were singing it. he's black - true not racist, hes bent - not racist and his arse ois up for rent - not racist! stop playing the card!
by Brian Damage on October 03, 2008
"So I suggest tomorrow you go into work, walk up to the first black person you see and say "morning blackie. You are looking very black this morning" Mike, the issue is whether describing someone as black is racist - thre needs to be a call made on this as you seem to think it is, but it seems that many people don't. I'd like to know the answer myself as I have to confess that I am effectively a racist by your definition (but not knowingly!!). Also note what you wrote above - "walk up to the first black person" - is that therefore racist by your definition? As you can see it is a very fine line - how do you correctly decsribe someone from this ethnic group....and by the way I am well aware of the terms that are used that are without a doubt racist. I can't believe given the make up of the Spurs team that the fans were being racist - but I guess only they can answer that....
Miuchael you are an utter buffoon. And a pedantic one at that It was npt racist, as someone of an ethnic minoirty who has been racially abused years ago I know its not a very nice thing but what you are doing is degrading a very serious issue with your stupid polictially correct view. Grow Up you ignorant tool. Racism is a real issue and people like you are just making it trivial. You sad sad man
"So I suggest tomorrow you go into work, walk up to the first black person you see and say "morning blackie. You are looking very black this morning" Mike, the issue is whether describing someone as black is racist - thre needs to be a call made on this as you seem to think it is, but it seems that many people don't. I'd like to know the answer myself as I have to confess that I am effectively a racist by your definition (but not knowingly!!). Also note what you wrote above - "walk up to the first black person" - is that therefore racist by your definition? As you can see it is a very fine line - how do you correctly decsribe someone from this ethnic group....and by the way I am well aware of the terms that are used that are without a doubt racist. I can't believe given the make up of the Spurs team that the fans were being racist - but I guess only they can answer that.... Describing someone as black is not racist. Using the word in black in the middle of an insult is. "I met this bloke, he was black" is not racist "He's black, he's bent, his arse is up for rent" clearly is. You shouldn't need to be confused because the test is very simple; would you have sung to Sol Campbell: "You black bastard"? if you would you are clearly racist. You tell me, how is you black bastard different to "he's black, he's bent, his arse is up for rent".
"So I suggest tomorrow you go into work, walk up to the first black person you see and say "morning blackie. You are looking very black this morning" Mike, the issue is whether describing someone as black is racist - thre needs to be a call made on this as you seem to think it is, but it seems that many people don't. I'd like to know the answer myself as I have to confess that I am effectively a racist by your definition (but not knowingly!!). Also note what you wrote above - "walk up to the first black person" - is that therefore racist by your definition? As you can see it is a very fine line - how do you correctly decsribe someone from this ethnic group....and by the way I am well aware of the terms that are used that are without a doubt racist. I can't believe given the make up of the Spurs team that the fans were being racist - but I guess only they can answer that.... Describing someone as black is not racist. Using the word in black in the middle of an insult is. "I met this bloke, he was black" is not racist "He's black, he's bent, his arse is up for rent" clearly is. You shouldn't need to be confused because the test is very simple; would you have sung to Sol Campbell: "You black bastard"? if you would you are clearly racist. You tell me, how is you black bastard different to "he's black, he's bent, his arse is up for rent". Mike.... I wouldn't sing either BUT in my opinion the first one is clearly racist, the second one isn't, it's a statement of his colour and it's all down to the comma (,). Given that the rest of the song is extremely homophobic
"Sol Campbell, deserves everything that the Spurs throw at him, but I also blame his agent Sky Andrews for his part in this, If Spurs hadn't have sold Defoe to Portsmouth, the same thing would have happened last summer. Even Manu Petite knew the score when Spurs approached him..So Sol knew exactly what would happen, and he was very badly advised, yes it's awful, but no it's not racist, it's understandable " Quote from Ian Wright (Not verbatum) Talksport Radio.
by Des Wright on October 03, 2008
Mike Hall quoted the chants as follows: "He's black, he's bent, his arse is up for rent" "Have you ever seen Campbell with a bird?" "Campbell takes it up the arse" "Sol, Sol, wherever you may be, Not long now til lunacy, And we couldn't give a f***, When you're hanging from a tree, Judas **** with HIV. " " I would suggest that Tottenham fans use PC versions from now on to avoid a life time ban from football: "He's of african origin, he may be homosexual, his bottom is up for rent" "Have you ever seen Sol Campbell with a woman" "Campbell is rumoured to be homosexual" "Sol, Sol, wherever you may be, you may be bi-polar, and we don't care if you commit suicide, because your are a traiter who is rumoured to carry the HIV virus" All of the above to be sung to the tune of the "Red Flag". Football is a tribal thing and abuse on and off the field has always been part of it. I am tired of liberals and leftists telling us what we can and can't say. Des
by Super Yid on October 03, 2008
[quote]What a load of rubbish. I sit near the away fans at Fratton. They were singing "He's black, he's bent, his arse is up for rent, Sol Campbell". They also sang; "Sol, Sol, wherever you may be, Not long now til lunacy, And we couldn't give a f***, When you're hanging from a tree, Judas **** with HIV." - Deeply unpleasant, homophobic and an undercurrent of lynching.[quoute] This itself is absolute rubbish. we weren't singing "He's black, he's bent, his arse is up for rent, Sol Campbell". I'm sorry but that is just a blatent lie. Furthermore the second one isn't anything to do with lynching and has no racist overtones like someone else was suggesting more just a level of hatred. No-one actually genuinely believes these things, they are just targeting him because he left in a really scummy way. There was absolutely no racial abuse towards him and I was surprised to read about that in the media. Homophobic a bit but absolutely not-racist whatsoever. I'm not saying these were acceptable but they aren't meant genuinely or as seriously as people think. My step-dad who went with me to the game in fact said he thought Sol would have got a lot more abuse than that. It was no-where near as bad as people said.
No i am not going to pull any punches here if it was up to me shite fart lame would be used for nuclear testing and the scum from the dressing room would be used as cannon fodder. I am as you have probably guessed a fan of one of the 19 teams both above you and who hate you. more specifically Arsenal. Much love...I have a serious problem with this abuse of Campbell. I can understand why you hate him because what he did was pretty low but u have to understand that players have ambition and spurs do as well but its POINTLESS! I hate Cashley Cole but I wouldnt resort to the pathetic chanting of your scummy club. There seems to be a massive chip on the shoulder of THFC regarding religion and race. GROW UP football may be tribal but its still human behaviour not animals!
To the nameless ARSEnal fool whose written this crap above, so a little friendly banter constitutes something worse than a nuclear holocaust in your eyes, sound reasoning, but then again you're an ARSEnal supporter, so that figues.fool
by Liverpool Irishman on October 03, 2008
Good on you Mike for having the strength of conviction to take on all these nutters. AFAIAC any mention of colour is racist, in any context, and their defence of it is the last kick of the last dying moronic idea of a dead empire. Sol is a human being, first and foremost, and not on God's clean earth anywhere is it acceptable for any humen being to be subjected to this kind of abuse. Tottenham fans should be hanging their heads in shame, and it is a shame because I have always been fond of Tottenham, they have a lot of fans in Ireland, a lot of fans who truthfully don't understand why after so many years it has to continue...but then Sol's skin colour is different, and there might be a chance that his sexual orientation might not fit with their idea of what is acceptable, so let's call this what it really is..Sol is an easy target for a few sad Tottenham fans to feel like they belong, and to take out their frustrations on being absolutely w*nk this year and spending a shed load of money on Darren Bent last year. You know, you really would be doing your club more good if you had a go at Bent for being so sh*te. I wonder how big Darren felt when he heard the chants? "He's black, he's bent" He was probably just being thankful he is a crap footballer who nobody wants to buy I bet. Wise up Spurs, rise above it and show some class
by Post and Out on October 03, 2008
Don't know what you Spurz fans are still moaning about, you've got Ledley 'one game a week' King. Class act.
by Mr Smith on October 04, 2008
by James - on October 04, 2008
I have read this entire thread and am shocked by some of the idiots on it. Good on you Mike for not losing your temper and remaining rational and intelligent throughout. Some football fans just aren't very clever. Well, most of them. Makes it hard to defend the sport with some of my mates but fuck them, I'll love it till I die. Can't say the same about some of the supporters. While I also agree that calling someone "black" isn't racist, in the term it is used in ("he's black, he's bent" etc.) it can be perceived as racist. And should be seen that way. However some of these people are as anti the idea of being racist as you are, which is good to see at the very least, and so almost want to deny it for their own peace of mind. Sure, you might not think its racist but whoever first put that chant together got that word in there for a reason. Alliteration yes, but it's still the odd one out in a list of derogatory terms is it?
by the real n n on October 04, 2008
There aren't any homegrown English players at Arsenal so that counts them out, but you understand my point I hope. Um ever heard of Ashley Cole? aka Cashley Cole, aka A. Hole
"There aren't any homegrown English players at Arsenal so that counts them out, but you understand my point I hope." Um ever heard of Ashley Cole? aka Cashley Cole, aka A. Hole
by Spursfan 4life on October 04, 2008
Okay let me ask you? If the chant being sung by the supporters was 'Hes big, Hes Black, He's our best full back..Sol Campbell...Sol Campbell' Is that racist too? Just because it has the word 'black' in it??? I know its a crap chant I just made up, but to my way of thinking its not racist. I agree the spursfans are bitter and full of hate towards him and will always abuse Sol Campbell, because of the way he treated the club, in the cutthroat mercenary world of football, there are not many to have stooped so low and done that to a club they professed to love even 8 years on. The gay and mental thing came from arsenal fans originally not spurs, the spursfans adopted it. Sol Campbell should just retire, hes past his prime, he wont be a first choice at pompey by the end of this season or next season, hes not gonna get another England cap, he might as well enjoy all that money he earnt going to Arsenal for free as Tottenhams expense.
by The Gunga Doon on October 04, 2008
Firstly Michael you made up the first part about the "he's back, he's bent" That is an utter lie. Its simly not true. Shame on you for making up lies Secondly you have no real understanding of racism, what you are doping is trivialising it to score some points and its an utterly disgusting and disgracful thing to do. This isn't a place where people's spelling needs to be checked, what needs to be checked are your blatant lies and odd attitude. You are a tool. As for he iverpool fan, anyone going to Liverpool in the bad od days pf the 80s know quite how nasty Liverpool fans can be, actually scratch that and move back to a few years back and the cup match at Anfield where bottles of urine were thrown at United fans and the ambulance carrying Aan Smith ws attacked. Liverpool fans are vermin And as for the Wooliwch, Ashley Cole anyone. No oine can take the minimum wage earners seriously, go back and fix a computer you woolwich it helpdesk mong
The Gunga Doon, I am afraid you come across as a completely uneducated, abusive and close minded tit. Mike has remained calm and argued a fair point without giving rise to your constant abuse. And he is clearly not trivialising a serious subject at all. You are exactly the kind of piss-minded football fan I'm talking about in my previous post. Yes, fans of each club have done something wrong at some point, it's inevitable, but don't tar all fans with the same brush. As I'm sure Mike wouldn't either! Fact is, certain areas of the crowd WERE singing this otherwise why on earth would Portsmouth take legal action? They'd lose instantly if it was "made up" wouldn't they?! Use your head mate! Think a little if you're able to.
by James - - on October 04, 2008
Also, the real n n - Did you see the league cup the other week? Arsenal fielded 6 English players, all kids, about 4 of them look like they'll go onto to be full internationals at some point. Just a reminder.
Michael stop posting under Mike to give yourself backup. There was no racism, Pompey fans are vile scum. Even if there was saying someone is"black" is not racist. If it is then the Park song should be banned too. Michael has triviliased a very serious issue. There is nothing uneducated about calling a vile little man a vile little man who has nothing better to o than make up idiotic stories
by Essexian76 on October 04, 2008
Pele was known as the 'Black Pearl',Laurie Cunningham as, 'the black flash' Are either or both of these nicknames racist?, I think there's your agument shot down and buried in an instant, you cannot have it both ways. I stood with 36,000 others at WHL, when a one minute silence was perfectly aknowledged for David Rocastle. This was a black footballer and an Arsenal player at that, so Spurs fans are racist are they?. One of these posts against us a certain Mr Joel Cario (USA and Arsenal follower), once said that Spurs are called 'the Lilywhites' because of our White fans and our racist attitude toward Jews??????????,Well that shows you if there's a middle class bandwagon worth jumping on, some ill informed and ignorant people will jump right on board, just as they have on this occaision. Ledley King, Didier Zokora, Jenas,Bent,Essou, are all vauted at the Spurs, or fans are multi-racial, the area is cosmopolitan..so where exactly is the racism then? Also as for Ashley Cole, He doesn't play for Arsenal, he never lied about staying, he left for a fee, so the comparisons are where?u
by Luke Bradley on October 04, 2008
I think every1s gone a bit OTT over this. If they're trying to control what we chant, whats next? I'd understand the uproar if it was rascist but none of it was. and calling a person black is in no means rascist. If i said he was english does that mean i hate English people. NO!! At the end of the day he is an overly paid pro and if he cant deal wit the fans whom he betrayed giving him a bit of stick then he should'nt play.
by Liverpool Irishman on October 04, 2008
Luke, you are 180 degrees out. How would you feel if a load of mouthy gits turned up at your work every day and started chanting that you were a gay black judas C*** who was mental and that you should hang yourself. It is just not right, way out of order and an absolute disgrace that a bunch of sad gits can do this and get away scot free. Kinnear gets my vote for having a go at the slimy bastards who write for newspapers in the UK, a bigger bunch of hypocritical nobodies I never thought I would see until I read the above posts and I now realise that indeed yes, you do get the journalism you deserve. You all, all of you who have defended this outrageous behaviour deserve the absolute gutter-crawling aprincipled sub 100 iq press you get force fed down your greedy throats week in week out. The Sun with Frank Bruno, the Star et al with the McCanns, you deserve every hate-filled, corruptive vocabulary of 200 words or less column you can read and then throw into the front of your white vans, then go to the pub and regurgitate the shite as your own opinion. Will you please, please stop buying that shite and actually start thinking for yourselves and try, just try and put yourselves into the boots of a bloke trying to make a f*cking living just like you overcharging plumbing, plastering bricklaying, sparkying bunch of c*nts that you are. You don't have to put up with it, regardless of how you treated your last but one employer. You don't own him, you never did, he was doing a job well using the talent God gave him and he decided to look out for his own interests just like every one of you hypocritical bastards would, given one tenth of his talent. You make me sick each and every one of you apologists for this scumsucking behaviour. get a fuck1ng life you tw*ts.
by Dennis Mortimer on October 04, 2008
"Pele was known as the 'Black Pearl',Laurie Cunningham as, 'the black flash' Are either or both of these nicknames racist?" yes, which is why you don't hear those kind of clumsy descriptions THIRTY YEARS LATER. What relevance did their skin colour have when describing their footballing attributes other than that the presence of these upstart black people in our previously cosily white world, and having the temerity to be successful rather than just obediently shining our shoes and cutting 'our' sugar cane, left many white people feeling just a little insecure and uncomfortable? I could call you the White Muppet Who Writes on Sportingo, but what does your (presumed) skin colour have to do with anything?
Dennis you are completely wrong, totally and utterly wrong, you're like so many other including the Liverpool Irishman, whose ridiculous rant is both absurd and extraordinarily pathetic. You've done exactly what I thought you would. As you've mentioned the two examples of positive racsism, yet disregarded the other facts in the piece because they make both you and your argument look somewhat stupid. Find another bandwagon to leap upon,I'm sure there a plenty of cause's more worthy of your opinion than this one. Strange how only Redknapp and Wenger have commented upon this. Redknap whose trying to justify his own dispicable actions and Wenger who actually instigated the problem.
Sorry Dennis, meant to say if in your opinion a muppet wrote the article then your entitled to your opinion (however worthless), and if the writer was white, then factually you'd be correct in your assessment. If Campbell is called a black C**T, by the same token we would also be correct in ours, as Campbell is black...correct?, and he i a c**t, also correct, so whats your point?
by steven church on October 04, 2008
There is a liverpool song aimed at benitez thats starts " he's big, he's red, he's feet stick out the bed". Is that racist to people with red faces. Just stated someone's colour isn't racist.
I just don't understand why skin colour has to be brought into it. Yes you are right, Sol is black, but why is it included in the song, when no-one ever includes the word white in a song about a white player? When LeSaux was unjustly abused, the song went, "He's gay, he's bent" not "He's white, he's bent" That's because the fact that he was a white person was a given, was it? He's white, so ah, there's no need to mention it? More likely, being white was not something one could insult him about, whereas being black in Britain has always been something the indigenous population found hard to forgive. But that's not what I am so angry about, you can argue about whether the chants are racist until the cows come home. Personally I think they are subliminally racist, but that's my opinion. The problem I have is the singling out of just one bloke for doing something that given half a chance, all of you would have done, that is to improve your situation. Hey, maybe, being Spurs fans, you wouldn't have gone to Arsenal, but we have all changed jobs, even careers, in order to progress. So Sol did that. And what the Hell is the problem with his sexuality? Even if he is gay, why the f*ck should it matter? I think the chants are racist and homophobic, but most of all I think you should all just get over it, and let the guy get on with his life. What the hell does it matter to you, does it make you a more loyal Spurs fan to chant the abuse? Does it make you a more knowledgable football fan? Does it make your team play better to hear their fans chant that shite at a fellow professional footballer? Or do they just thank their lucky stars it's not them? Yet. Move on Spurs, you have much bigger things to worry about, like the Championship next year. If there's any justice in the world, you'll get relegated and Sol won't hve to worry about you lot ever again, because when you go down, you're staying down son. And that thought brings a smile to my face :)
by king ledley on October 04, 2008
i do recall being at the spurs vs pompey game at whl last year and the majority of the portsnouth fans were singing "wheres your foreskin gone" and many other anti-semitic chants, many of you pompey fans seem to have quickley devolped amnesia
Again, and I mean this with the utmost of respect. That Campbell said himseld, that it would be madness to go to Arsenal. as he is a Spurs fan or was. He stated on several occaisions this, and many other lies, then used the cover of the close season to commit the most cowardly of deception, now that may sound OTT, but thats exactly what it was. The man is the most loathed player in the entire history of our club, and knew this would happen. United and Liverpool both had massive bids refused by Spurs because of this mans dishonesty, and ruined the plans of the club in the process. The race issue is a non-starter, believe me as they're are many black and asian fans, in area that is predomniately multi-racial. I quoted deliberately the respect and dignity that the tribute David Rocastle received from us following his sad demise. Now this was player who was black, was an Arsenal player but respected for who and what he was. Spurs have a multi racial team and a huge Jewish following hence our nickname "The Yids" so I'm sorry but hatred certainly, loathing definately, disgust certainly, racial no way, so dont even go there, you're being used by the tabloids simple as that, as Kinnear about them!
by Des Wright on October 04, 2008
"He's bent; he's bent; everything's up for rent; Mandy Mandelson" If I sing the above in the strangers gallery at the House of Commons, will I be banned for life? Des
by Essexian76 on October 05, 2008
by the gunga doon on October 05, 2008
firstly why is some no mark from ireland who supports a provincia team like Liverpool commenting on a LONDON club like Spurs. Do one you're a nobody. Secondly your own fans are vermin. from throwing urine at fellow supporters, to attcking amubulances carrying injured players, to their thieving neanderthal ways accross europe. Liverpool fans are third rate lowly paid scum. A spurs fans socks are worth more than a scousers life. Secondly this song never took place, the spurs trust hve come out with a statement. Pompeii fans made it up. Spurs are not racist Liverpool are, remember the bad old days of the 80s? Get a crip you no mark and don't bother yourself with a situation that doesn't concern you you sad pathetic oddball.This is a club that didn't have a black player until john barnes, don't talk to spurs about racism
A guy cuts you up in traffic, he's got bright red hair, thick rimmed glasses, and is ugly as hell, what are you going to call him? and does that mean that you're as a person looking to eliminate all people like him from the very face of the earth, or are you venting anger, and using the first thing seen as the target?. The Sunday Mirror, that paper well known for its honesty and intergrity (Yeah) had an interesting article stating that the reporter felt sorry for Mr Scumbag, because he's upset at the abuse he's received !, The reporter blames us, yet never once mentions Mr Scubags part in this. Now if I were a reporter of any note, surely you'd ask Mr Scumbag, if he still felt that he was right in what he did, whether he'd do it again if he could turn back time,and would he advise any player in a simular situation to do the same thing as he did, which wa after all to deceive the publc, his employers and the biggest fools of all the press themselves?, and moreover perhaps apologize to all for being such a lying ,deceptive, underhand piece of garbage, whose very name is filth in our eyes. As for Mr 'I'm struggling for my own identidy' Theres a local side in Ireland looking for support, I'd have thought, but it's another bandwagon to jump on as well as this. If you cant see it, then you're no football fan at the end of the day
by bertie williams on October 05, 2008
i'm disgusted and shocked at the ignorance of you people- mike hall is clearly the only one with any intelligence go mike
by Liverpool Irishman on October 05, 2008
"We've use the only weapon available to express our disgust at this underhand lying cheating piece of scum ****(nothing racist or homophobic there )****, and lets hope that theres plenty more when he comes to the lane! " And laughably, you accuse me of not having insight? We have all of the ignorance, racism and sectarianism we can handle in local football here, perhaps that is the reason I and many like me don't go to football matches here in N. Ireland. To be fair, the IFA and Northern Ireland football supporters have made a concerted effort to rid the local game of some of the worst of it. So you're not too likely to hear the chants "Greysteel 7, Ireland 0" at our local grounds anymore. Nevertheless a lot of work remains to be done before local football grounds can be a place where anyone can feel welcome. The casual racism and the defence of it in this forum reminds me of what here was like 15-20 years ago. Luckily we are beginning to put that behind us. For you, however, the future looks as bleak as the past. I have tried to point out that, in my mind as a neutral, the chants were going much, much too far, but it would appear that you all have your own journeys to make with regard to this isue. I wish you luck with this difficult transition, but I can promise you that on the other side of that hill the view is much brighter. I am not going to waste any more time encouraging you along that path, your passage is inevitable and nothing I can say will speed it up or hinder it. I wish you luck and leave the rest to people like Mike and the other reasoned individuals who have posted here. (much more reasoned than myself I might say) So good luck Mike and all you other guys, remember...One day, the horse might sing :)
As for Gunga Doon, here you go mate, try this; http://www.equip.nhs.uk/topics/neuro/mental.h tml
on October 06, 2008 on October 06, 2008
by n n on October 06, 2008
Also, the real n n - Did you see the league cup the other week? Arsenal fielded 6 English players, all kids, about 4 of them look like they'll go onto to be full internationals at some point. Just a reminder. I'm an Arsenal fan so i know about the English kids and Arsenals youth system, I was pointing out A. Hole because he secretly met with Chelsea officials to organise a transfer, then had the balls to accuse Arsenal of letting him 'hang out to dry.' To top that off he released a book on his side of the story and how he was 'incensed' because Arsenal offered only 55,000 a week. What Campbell did was low, but he never bit back at Tottenham like Cole did to Arsenal, never defended his actions aggressively like Cole, similar to many a criminal who claims he is innocent.
by richard Grant on October 06, 2008
The bit about berb getting a warm reception when he comes back... was it a joke? he will get crucified! no question about it.
by Josh on October 06, 2008
"We're still all united in this, and nothing and nobody will prevent us voicing our disgust at this poor excuse of a man" You can be disgusted at him and insult him as much as you want, it's the part where people started chanting about him "hanging from a tree" that was unnecessary. There are plenty of ways to insult someone who, as far as I know, is as much a piece of trash as you say he is. You can even sing about killing him if you really must, but mentioning that particular method of "execution" can only be a reference to the era when that's actually what happened to a lot of black people in certain parts of "civilised" society not-that-many-decades ago. It's not about how warmly you treat other black players either, you just can't trivialise that particular part of history just to jibe at one man's deceitful and scheming acts as a footballer. Well, you can, as you clearly did, but you can't do it and expect no one to be mad.
on October 07, 2008 on October 07, 2008
by Ben Tye on October 07, 2008
So...... Singing "Gas the jew, jew, jew stick the oven on gas mark two" is not a form of racism? I think Mr Pompey needs to look at what his own supporters were singing before making any form of comment about Spurs fans.
by Ben on October 08, 2008
Cheer up sol campbell, oh what could it mean to a bleep censored bastard and a shit football team!
by nick on October 08, 2008
sol cambell is a lying judas every one knows it but hey what about our adebayor song now that has to be the funniest and best ever chant!!!
by TonyS on December 10, 2008
Working on a new song: Sol Campbell, You are a bloody rotter, We do not like you, Whatever your ethnicity. Its a work in progress. Still fine-tuning it.
on December 12, 2008 on December 12, 2008
Campbell loves barrymore
by john dowse on May 16, 2009
ahhhh i feel so sorry for sol, he must be so upset getting paid tens of thousands and having to listen to a silly song.Someone buy him a hanky to cry into
by pippa scott on May 22, 2009
before you shoot me down i admit i am not a huge football fan and only really watch it for my other halfs benefit. BUT as an objective outsider there are racist conotations here and homophobic, to me though that is irrelevant. Put yourself in his position you are doing your job, that is what he is doing he is putting fodd on his table albeit for a lot of money but how would you feel if you went to work and were subjected to abuse of any kind! would you just take it lying down??? any people who shout abuse at football players give football supporters a bad name regardless of their team!
by Ped Boy on November 03, 2009
Campbells sexy:)
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