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by Adam Maniam on 13 March 2007
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by nic meredith on March 13, 2007
jol spurs time=success. (From an old purs nut)
by eddie on March 13, 2007
I am a big Jol fan but the point is not whether we would have accepted 3-3 before the game. The point is that we should not have accepted a draw after being 3-1 up.
by stilesp on March 13, 2007
couldn't disagree more. 1 jol is not resonsible for turing spurs round it is collective..board, structure, buying policy, investment and then the manager and players plus the back room staff. 2. his tactics during the game are hugley questionable and not just on the odd occassion. he has an OBVIOUS problem when planb is required which often it is. 3 sunday, from the minute he took berbetov off it was a draw at best and there can be no excuses, tired? no Berbetov should be in charge of climate control, he is lean when using energy to be polite...but a GREAT player i think and when he was taken off i sent a text to my friends saying can we hang on for a draw...pure and simple BAD management decision, a mistake! so let us say hands up Martin made a mistake and learn from it. 4 he has had problem integrating Zokora who is clearly class with a sizable engine for our league and i think this is not down to Zokora it's Jol 5 why did he not sell Mido in Jan? if this was his decision I rest my case.. lifelo
by lahabau on March 13, 2007
stilesp.. when will you learn that berbatov was injured.. would you like to see him out for the rest of season?? if you think you're better than the big jol, go on and apply for the position at the lane.. You lowly minded moron..
by name on March 13, 2007
It's articles like this that encourage mediocrity and a la la la nothing's wrong stick our heads in the sand mentality. If you refuse to see the obvious fact that we concede goals and throw away leads constantly and that nothing seems to be done about it, then I feel sorry for you. P.S. Thanks to the wrongful taking off of Berbatov and Lennon, we now have another game to play. If you wanted to rest them you could have done it against Braga and Watford (both at home) And you cannot have it both ways. If Jol is "responsible for the turn around", then he is also responsible for how the likes of Mido and Gardner play when he puts them on.
"You lowly minded moron.." This is the typical argument of those who would defend Jol. They have to resort to insults.
a quick ps....I think my point is that "when spurs are on fire Jol pours petrol on them" we looked like we could be on fire in the second half on sunday and jol gave chelsea two cans or petrol and some matches!! he makes bad management decsions on the field, sadly if we want to keep the momentum upwards we may need a close look at his decisions, they may well not stack up in the real hard world!!
lahabau? how sad have we met? if not thank you for the slur on my character, so here is one back, which shool did you walk past when a kid on the way to the park? (MARKS OUT OF TEN PLEASE!) It's unlikely that Berbetov was taken off because he is injured, if he was taken of because he could have been possibly injured somewhere inside that could possibly get worse then sadly thats football, you first win the game you are playing and then think about the next. do you have anything intelligent to say?
by Mr Nice Guy on March 13, 2007
Spot on. Can't understand the negativity. Three away games in a week, one in Europe, and we have 10 goals 2 victoies and a draw. We made one of the best teams in Europe look average on their own patch, have many key players injured and got sweet revenge for last seasons lasange. I'm dissappointed and embarrassed by some of our own "supporters". Spurs and Proud.
by tony mcnicholas on March 13, 2007
great article to all thidiots criticising jol, leave him alone hes doing a great job, well done martin the true spurs fans are right behind you. come on you spurs.
by Rob on March 13, 2007
stilesp. You are an idiot. 5 wins in a row until a "terrible" draw against the champions of England which could and should have been a win but for Defoe's shot against the bar. If you are a glory hunter and have no patience got support either Chelsea or the scum. You would fit in there with narrow-minded bandwagon jumpers.
by Noel Barry on March 13, 2007
If it was me instead of Jol, I would have replaced Berbatov with Huddlestone, and would have played a 4-5-1 formationand later revert to a 5-4-1.The rest of the substitutions were OK. Mido never impressed in the games he played and two flick ons against Fulham doe not make him a great player. But all in all our latest performances were great.
Clearly you think that you are able to out-think mr mourinho, that you had all the answers for sundays match? Wake up. We played away in europe on thursday night till nearly midnight!! What do you expect? Fresh legs for 90mins. People like you have no idea how to support a team. Sure your full of smiles when we're winning but to turn so quickly when we can only manage a draw away at the champions of england after less than a 3 day break with a big injury list just shows you up to be a fickle "sing when we're winning" nothing supporter. True supperters stick with the team through thick and thin, the clue is in the word "Support"er. You are a criticiser and have no place at WHL.
Rob do you inhale bell end? can u inhale a large one? I have supported Spurs for 40 years so I know what it's about. I want like all to see improvement and to have the intelligence to see the bigger picture. Not to simply say what we have done in the last 5 games each time we have a good run but to say how can we keep improving, what needs to be done to make us a genuine top four team. Simple I aM passionate, not stupid, my bank balances suggest I am far from stupid!! anyway you can aplogise if you would like, but I guess you will not.
Not quite sure I take your point, but your level if intellect shines throug. What was your point sorry? and why should i take a course on tactics I am not the manager, but I do have an opinion....and yes I am an Englishman with an opinion heaven forbid.
by Stuart on March 13, 2007
I've changed my mind and am going to agree with the naysayers - Jol is obviously terrible for the club, we're shipping far too many goals. The only alternative I can see is to re-employ George Graham, so that we can start stifling opposition strikers and keeping clean sheets. We might not score any goals, and play boring boring (Arsenal) football, but at least we won't concede, eh?
by Mesmo on March 13, 2007
Don't let the like's of stilesp & such get to you. There's a bunch of West Ham wum's out there who have nothing better to do now that their season's over than try and wind Spurs fans up.
by Len on March 13, 2007
Adam, This is a first class post. I have been a Spurs supporter for 50 year's now and it get's on my nerves's that there are those who think that Jol can bring instant success to the club, they are so bloody impatient it make's my blood boil. Anybody with half a brain should know that it take's time to build a team into a great side and they must be blind if they can not see that Jol is taking us in the right direction. He make's mistake's yes but what manager does not. How many team's would still like to be in the FA cup, and how many would still like to be in Europe, how many would like to be in with a chance of finishing in the top six and being in Europe next season and how many wish they did not have the threat of relegation hanging over them. I look at Jol and think that given time if these fickle supporter's get of his back he will be one of the greatest manager's this club has had. Once again it was a joy to read a post from someone who think's before they go off on a rant.
by 2manyopinions on March 13, 2007
When I was watching the game obviously my first opinion to the substitutions was not good atall to say the least. I beleived after the Arsenal game Jol had changed his approach to games and this can be seen in recent results. The team has totaly changed the way we have been playing in the past block of games is great. I have always had total faith in Martin and only being 19 i feel he is the strongest gaffa i have seen at the lane. injury causing substitutions is NOT A NEGATIVE MOVE! Jol continued to look for a 4th like he said he did looking to end the tie. How can any1 not agree with the substitution of Gardner for Ghally, a sub that was essential with chelsea playing such an attacking formation. Quite surprised by taking Lennon of as this is going to give chelsea a boost and opinion we are looking to sit back. Malbranque is an attacking midfielder but to chelsea this looks defensive. ALL I CAN SAY LETS HAVE 'EM AT THE LANE AND KEEP FAITH IN R GR8 MAN!!!!
Oh believe me, I won't let them get to me. I'm having more fun as a Spurs supporter than I have in years - we're playing gorgeous football, and yes, we're shipping goals, but hopefully we can fix that with a couple of good signings, plus the return of King to the defence. Jol is by far the best manager we've had in over a decade, and I personally have nothing to complain about. Sticking my head in the sand? I don't think so - I recognise the issues we have as a team, but I'm not short-sighted enough to think that dumping the current manager will sort them!
by essexian76 on March 13, 2007
At last it seems there are actually people writing in praise of Martin Jol. I am sick to the back teeth of the negativity and hidden agenda of some of our 'supporters' (I use the term very loosely). Before the game with seven first teamers out, a match played late on Thursday and all that..would we have settled for a draw...you bet ya...would have hoped for such a performance...you bet ya..again.We should be praising him and our reserves from the bloody rooftops, not harranging the man...for Gods sake either get a grip...or support..no that the wrong word, because many have'nt worked out what that means someone who is guarenteed success.
by Alex Petrelis on March 13, 2007
The people who are slating Martin Jol for bad tactics need to wake up. Chelsea had 2 defenders on the pitch! Meaning there were 8 players that only wanted to go forward! We had no choice but to go defensive minded!! Our only chance was to hit them on the break, a Chelsea 2nd half onslaught was inevevitable. There was no way they would be as bad the 2nd half. They had nothing to lose by throwing everyone forward, they were going out anyway!! Its a shame Berba had to come off injured. But Martin Jol did nothing wrong. People say he should have brought Huddlestone for Berba when he went off? But then moan Jol is negative. You really just cant please some people. 17 cup games this season and we haven't lost one of them in 90 mins! The only one we have lost was at the emirates in extra time. But i agree with the haters - Martin Jol = Rubbish. Wake up people
by Essexian76 on March 13, 2007
What if Jol was sacked or walked out, then who would we replace him with exactly???, a manager without a position at present?, blimey he must be exactly what we're looking for.I find it unbelievable that out there some want Venables or Hoddle back, why have a triumverant, and bring Graham in as a third manager, perhaps Pleaty to run the reserve and youth teams. For Gods sake guys watch the games and than comment, hindsights a wonderful thing isnt it!
by Supportyourteam on March 13, 2007
What can i say Alex Petrelis you have just said you agree with the tactics used on sunday, but you want jol out? how can you not notice how we play different exciting football now? Maybe he has made a few mistakes that have cost us but if you look back even 3 or 4 years ago how things have change