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by Orion Assante on 16 April 2007
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by smams on April 16, 2007
I see what they mean by the beast not living up to the hype but like u i see the patiencal that he posses and believes that arsenal hardly used him and he was used the wrong way. Arsenal mostly used him as a midfield player but since baptista is slow he would be a better player as an strikker with theo wallcot or henry so when he kicks it from far it's to much power to hold the ball and wallcot could hit it in but i do hope that we obtain reyes back althought he embarrased himself alot and wishes not to come back because of it i think arsenal need him because of how we play. Reyes likes to play in the box, makes great passes and his shot is powerful but if we could keep reyes and Baptista together i think that they could one of the best teams in arsenal history.
by Neal on April 16, 2007
I feel the problem with Baptista is two seasons which have harmed his development; firstly playing on the wing at Real, secondly this year injuries disrupting his settling in period. I think we would see the best of the Beast next year if we played him as the forward man in a five man midfield. The best solution, for both Arsenal and Real, would be for Reyes and Baptista to extend their loan periods for a further season.
by Jason White on April 16, 2007
It cannot be missed that Baptista isn't just failing to live up to Arsenal's expectation, he's failing to live up to every other fan's expectation. He's got bad first touch and pass. something unheard of for a Brazilian footballer. He has not shown me anything to hang on to in the hope that he'd get better. Even Drogba showed glimpses that he could be a goal poacher. Can you really say the same for Baptista. He's a toothless beast. Due to his size, we all expect him to at least be strong on his feet on and off the ball. He clearly isn't. If he can't use his natural advantages whats the point. He can't pass, he can't shoot, can't head, can't run, can't control the ball. Why spend £10million pounds on him?? Its inexplicable.
by John Hart on April 16, 2007
...nuff said
by aj on April 16, 2007
I agree that we need to have a big, strong forward who can cause havoc in the opposition penalty area but Baptista has shown no sign of being that player. The real problem is that he will cost us many £ millions and I feel that we could do a lot better with that money. You can give a player time, if he appears to be having difficulty reading the movements of his team-mates but that is not Baptista's problem. His problems are basic in that he seems to fall over the ball, lose control and essentially be unable to execute the basic skills.
by William on April 16, 2007
...seems like i wasnt the only one who felt Julio wasnt right for Arsenal. I agree with the author...what was Arsene thinking in wanting to spend £13m for the Beast? If Seville did agree, it would have been as bad a business as Arsene had done ever. So maybe we're lucky to have him on loan? Maybe Arsene should have done the same for Helb...
by Bob R on April 16, 2007
18 caps for Brazil? You're joking surely....and I thought Junior Biano was the worst Brazillian ever to wear the gold...
by klaus on April 16, 2007
there are many ways to judge a manager , just by trophies is far to one sided and would disrespectful to any manager outside the top 4.....in arsenes wengers case, it should not be trophies , but the developement of talent, which he did successfully with to many players to mention here... and without any euro tropies one has to take this yardstick to hand. baptista is one of his failures so far....i have only seen him on the box a few times, but he doent convince me yet.... who is the best manager of the last 5 years in europe??? that would be an interesting discussion.
by ROB on April 16, 2007
What part of Henry's 20 goals in his first season were thought of as a non event then?
by andy on April 17, 2007
I belive that arsene was looking for a powerful player who would be able to pick up the ball from midfield and run at the opposition defense with the ability to shoot from range and find a killer pass. On paper baptista was as good a bet as we were likely to attract at the time with little money to buy a (true) world class player. The reason it has not worked is down to Baptista having a terible first touch, but also having a very neat and tidy duo in midfield which is for the most part nowhere near quick enough going forward to allow our attack to flourish, when we were truly a great side who "always scored" we had PV4 tearing through the middle of opposition teams, because of the speed of the switch from defense to attack we were able to break and really punish teams. Now with no vieira we should wait for fabregas to develop into the player who can do that but for now with only Ade fit up front, Rosicky could be the player we really need in that position. He can shoot form range and can supply the killer p
by Wilson W on April 17, 2007
is that he doesnt play the tupe of game Baptista plays. The typical type of player Arsene likes is Helb, who has tremendous skill but doesn't know what the hell to do with it. Helb is silky up to the edge of the penalty area where he becomes crap. Baptista is suppose to fill the gap left by Helb. But turns out both are hopeless. Baptista - GO HOME!
by Peter on April 17, 2007
It's true the beast was not a good acquisition. I do not know either what Arsene saw in him, but like most South Americans, settling in the premiership has not been easy for him. Telling from the scoring rate we here he had at Sevilla?, on paper he seems not to be what he actually delivers at Arsenal. Perhaps he can better play in Spain. We ask the coach to replace him because he does not seem to be contributing to the 'development' of the Arsenal of tomorrow. We had better get another senior player to 'teach the boys'.
by Sarah McC on April 17, 2007
There is nothing wrong with Baptista. He just needs to play in Spain. Some players are better playing elsewhere - see Freddy Kanoute, Diego Forlan etc. Arsenal should swap him for David Villa.
by Sai on April 17, 2007
Baptista should back to Real Madrid
by Ronnie on April 17, 2007
Fans will never be patiant. They always want there expectations come true in a few minutes. the beast has been at Arsenal only a season and he needs time to adopt properly to the english game. next season if he stays he will be better than what you have seen this season.Another thing is that i feel he is being played in the wrong position. During the second game of man united and arsenal he came on from the bench and his controbition was vital as a midfielder. may wenger should try the man in midfield. There i hope he will be better and please fellow arsenal fans lets give the guy some time to be better.
by kenny on April 17, 2007
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by Damian on April 17, 2007
it worked last time 4 him with fredie and Pires play makers on the wing cause they went straight or cut in the current 2 good play makers but aren,t sooted wide need wingers plus Veria controlling midfield winning the ball quickly to Dennis Baptista is a good player but needs wingers. With 3 play makers and no runners we have all seen the glut of possession around the box with no result
Your right the best 4 both clubs another year butin a 442 in Denis roll along side Henry Ribery and a good Left Back must have at least 1 direct winger
He, wont come burnt bridge plus once Henry became Captain and i,m huge fan every time he shot if it didn,t go in Henry jumped on him if he ran with it :no goal ; he jumped on him i guess it was probable only way to keep Henry
by Chris Gray on April 17, 2007
With these two back next season we will be unstoppable.
by seb on April 17, 2007
and you all expect Baptista to adapt in the very few games he started. Drogba has been awful for the past two seasons and look now. Most players need time to adapt to the english game. If Ribery comes to asnl, it will probably be the same thing. I'm sure if we keep Baptista he will reveal to be one of the best.
by Laughing Lillywhite on April 22, 2007
Oh wont you stay...just a little bit longer, please stay oh say that you will.....he's great!
by Sean on April 29, 2007
i think he might have lost it! if you go to youtube youl find some good clips of him in action altough its probly when he was younger, cause he look alot like henry on the pitch with his skill! BRING BACK REYES!!
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