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by Mark Rivlin on 13 June 2007
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by Will Yates on June 13, 2007
last time outside the top 4??? we not won the title in 17 years!
by Steve aton on June 13, 2007
It won't work, putting a cap on transfers would only allow more money to be offered as inducements to the players. It would also take a salary cap, and try to get that past the EU!
by Jamie on June 13, 2007
Quote "Now if I was a betting man, I would put my money on one of the following clubs to win the Premiership - Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool (the last-named being one of those silly bets, like your mum's birthday as a lottery choice). So it's one out of four, or more likely three" If you we're a betting man you would bet on 1 of the top four to win the league?? Really Einstein? You sound like an idiot to be fair and you have not said anything in the main that has'nt already been said a million times before. You also seem anti Liverpool, "Clough, Wenger, Ferguson, Coppell" but no Shankly, Paisley or even Busby??
by Stewart66 on June 13, 2007
For goodness sake why do fools like you write such drivel. Chelsea were outside the top 4 pre Roman. Where are they now? Apart from them, the other three are wealthy through achievement. Live with it. If you want a more cometitive premiership, find investment, get the players and compete. Maybe you to could be successful. Otherwise shut up and live with what you've got.
by Big Al on June 13, 2007
There's no point in blaming it on the so called Big Four, the reason they are where they are is because they are historically well run clubs(with the exception of Chelsea who were lucky enough to be bankrolled by the Russian) The list of clubs in the Prem that have have spent a lot fo money but not achived is rather lengthy. Spurs, Newcastle, Middleborough and maybe Aston Villa all spring to mind. There is also Everton who were once considered a big club. I suggest that these clubs have been porrly managed/run and as a result have done nothing to increase competition for the premiership title.
by Ben on June 13, 2007
And this makes the Premiership different from all of the other major European leagues how?
by Goonerbeall on June 13, 2007
Its one thing to go on about the glory days of Nottingham Forest, west Ham and Tottenham but you also have to realise that things have changed so much we might as well be living in a different country. One reason why nothing will ever happen to disturb the present arrangement is the mentality. People go on about EPL having too many foreigners but do nothing the extortionate cost of English players. Today Darren Bent is to join West Ham for £18m while Arsenal is to bring in Babel for £6m and this one is international. Tell me
by Gooner on June 13, 2007
Don't agree with it at all. If you want a competitive league then raise the standards of the other 16 teams, lowering the standards of the top four is just stupidity. I also don't see why the top four should be punished for their success. If the FA spent more of their money on developing grass root football instead of hiring expensive managers to coach the joke that is the national team, you might see a difference. Also, the fact that these smaller teams are more after short term success rather than long term stability costs them. They spend all their money on players that will stay for 2 or 3 seasons instead of developing a system that can last them for a life time.
by Faz on June 13, 2007
All well and good but thers no way it could ever happen. without the money the premiership wouldn't be the best league in the world. also teams like tottenham will be challenging for champions league football soon and look at what allardyce did with bolton. although chelsea did spend vast amounts when roman took over, the money being spent at the club now shows that the huge investment won't run forever and we are attempting to be a profit making club by 2010 as planned
by The Brush on June 13, 2007
Liverpool have finished above Arsenal for the past 2 seasons. So why are they considered as a better bet for the title? Given that Liverpool will havea much better squad this year, I think it's Arsenal you should write off.
by Shane Robinson on June 13, 2007
I completely agree. Very valid point about capping transfer fees so it's the negotiation on the interested side coupled with the players desire to go to that club that matter and not what fee the selling club command. Unfortunately unless these restrictions are implemented there is nothing to stop the rich clubs getting richer and everyone else being left behind. You cannot also subscribe to the mentality that these rich clubs got there through grit and work and deserve to be where they are, maybe so but that is not a solution to the problem. You talk of clubs outside the top 4 having problems competing for the league? I am a Liverpool fan and we are even struggling to compete for the league and we are in that top 4! Oh, to Davey? Well done for that tirade of abuse, all you have achieved there is highlighting what an ignorant muppet you are. You spout enough vitriol, did it cross your mind to explain why you dilike the article so much or were you so caught up in your swear fest your tiny mind veered off trac
by Avadu on June 13, 2007
Its a moot point like Jose says Liverpool ? premiership ? no way, you cant win the prem on penalties
Check your facts bindipper, the season before Roman bought Chelsea we finished ahead of Loserbore
by Colin on June 13, 2007
Liverpool have no chance.....they have finished ahead of Arsenal for the past 2 seasons and we weren't even trying for the past 10 games of this season (I'm not happy about that!) so we must be in with as big a chance as them. Benitez is a good manager who is bringing in good young players into the youth system and trying to replace the rest of the deadwood on a First team squad that is looking better every season. We are still not in the same league as ManU and Chelsea but then we haven't spent as much money either. That may change with the new owners but I'm not convinced that they are going to spends silly money!
by Daniel King on June 13, 2007
I am not a Liverpool fan but your comment about them winning the Premiership and being one of those silly bets is ridiculous. The top 3 teams that have won are as follows: 18 Liverpool last won 1990 16 Manchester United last won 2007 13 Arsenal last won 2004 Chelsea have managed just 3 times Admittedly Liverpool have not won for 17 years but seeing that they have done well in Europe over the last 4 years I hardly think that makes them a joke to win the premiership. Also, you have to give credit to Arsenal who have been punching well above their weight for the last 20 years. They haven't had the same crowds that Liverpool or ManU have, nor have they had the same financial clout as them and now Chelsea. To be even included as a big 4 club Arsenal have done extremely well to win trophies, buy cheap and sell high, and develop some unknowns to world stars. Out of all the three they are the most deserving to win. Lets hope this year they can go all the way.
by klaus on June 13, 2007
how booooring..... three years ago everybody , outside old trafford and the libray were over excited that cfc threatened to break the duopoly of that time, now its four clubs, altho i still think that the top two are in a league of their own...the new tv cash will give the next batch a chance to catch up with arsenal and lpool at least...in any case can anybody name any major league in which 5 different clubs won the championship in the last 10 years...
by Big 3 (without loserpool) on June 13, 2007
your squad is gona be no better than last year or the year before. Hicks is not gonna give you any money and is in it for his profit. anyway it would not make a difference as rafa has spend over 90m in his 3 years. Thats more than wengers net spend over 10 years. 3prems including an unbeaten season, 3fa cups spending next to nothing. i hope your listening jose.
by Mark on June 13, 2007
In 2003 how many teams had won the premiership outside the gang of 2? In fact how many teams have won the premiership outside the gang of 1? Also, I would have thought Chelsea might be considered "another team" if you consider the last 30 years and not just the last 4 seasons. Hell throw in Liverpool as "another team" taking into account the last 20 years!
by Farhan Mansoor Qureshi on June 14, 2007
One thing is for sure that neither Arsenal nor the Liverpool owners will spend on their teams to compete the BIG 2 now namely Chelsea and Man Utd bcuz they r more inclined towards business and improving the balance sheet than the game. Thats something really bad for the fans.
by Essexian76 on June 14, 2007
An obvious and glaring ommission, I'd say, but I suppose it doesnt count if your referring to establishment clubs.Since the premiership was formed to make money for the elite at the expense of all of the other teams in the FL what else do you expect? Since clubs have kept their own gate money, then it stands to reason the biggest clubs will flourish, cant see any other option unless the EPL adopt the US system of a level playing field at the start of each season, which I for one hope never happens
Clough, bought Wallace, Fashanu, Trevor Francis for astronoical sums for the time, breaking the 1m barrier for the first time, he would spend big if he felt the need arose. Everything is relative to the times, Chelsea are/were buying big because they can, as are West Ham/Spurs/Newcastle Villa and so on, its what you spend it on, and whose left after the 'big' boys have had there fill is what counts, have you noticed that none of them are after Bent at 16-18 million why because he's not worth it, but he's all thats left!
by fdsa on June 16, 2007
I'd like more equitable TV money distribution, domestic and European. The Big 4 don't need it, the rest of the Premier League do, and the lower divisions are starved of it. The resulting financial stability should allow a bit more equality on the pitch.
by neill mckee on June 19, 2007
got to laugh that rafa spent 90 million which is more than arsenal have spent in 10 years rafa had to build a brand new team and most of what he has spent he has recouped and wenger also got 25 million for a player he paid only 400k that goes a long way to balancing the books 1 more point arse have won 3 titles well done and some fa cups but liverpool under benitez have surpassed wenger in europe and the league so you may be right big 3 arse are closer to spurs than liverpool
by carpediem on July 05, 2007
Why not invite Celtic into the Premiership? Here is a club who is getting 60,000 fans for home games versus Dunfermline, St Mirren and Motherwell. Would ANY Premiership club achieve this? Put them in the Premiership and a 90,000 stadium wouldn't be big enough. Also, as we saw at Old Trafford and Celtic Park for the Champions League clashes - Celtic are not over-awed by reputation - something which would be refreshing in the Premiership. And their fans have a will to win, a will which intimates even the best at CL games and which will never accept 2nd place as good enough. And lets face it, part of the problem with the Premiership is that Arsenal and Liverpool have accepted 3rd and 4th place as their comfort zone.