Stam, Beckham and Van Nistelrooy: Three Man United mistakes that prove Sir Alex is far from perfect

What a load of nonsense. Any football fan, who actually watches the EPL and La Liga will know that Man Utd player better without RVN and Beckham and that they've been a blessing to Real Madrid this season. In fact, Beckham failed to winning anything with Real until this season and Ruud had become lazy and a bully to the younger players at Man Utd. The only player i agree with is Stam. He was an fantastic defender, but as soon as i read his published diary, I knew his time at Ot was over. You simply cannot say those things about your team mates and disclose such sensitive information. But we had become over-reliant on Beckham and Ruud and honestly, we played the most beautiful football in England over the last decade last season and it looks set to continue.

i know you are a united supporter so i wont go to hard on you but come on. be real. we scored more goals this season without van the man.. facts are facts van was getting to big for his boots he was a good player but fergies stance on no player is bigger then the team is what has partly made him a success. with van going all of a sudden ronaldo turns in to a contender for greatest player on the planet, do you think we could of won the premiership with out ronaldo playing the way he did, ask your self did fergie get that decision right of course, two becham. good for him he has won la liga, but he was turning in to a super star, god knows with the success SAF has brought united we can now rub shoulders with the likes or juve and real, but we dont want to act lie them haivng galacticos prancing about the place all to big for their boots, rela madrid was the best place for them were there egos are mixing with other big heads. and as for stam he crossed the boss, now some can do that behind the scenes but publ

publisise it for all to see, a bridge to far mate. anyway this is irrelivant as we won the premiership this year as well, so who cares what madrid did as with know cl trophy they could of aonly equalled us. and now we have a team of budding stars fir for another decade all worth 20 million upwards, or we could have it your way with becham van and stam still there and let the greatest manager man u has ever seen follow in the footsteps of Sir matt for something else, the failure to relise the difference between sentiment for the players who has done so well and bring a manager to take the club forward, we would have a team that probably this year would have given there grand final apperance then watch them sway as age gets the better of them and they dwinbdle for another twenty years for someone to pick up the pieces. well done if you were in charge god help us if thats your way of thinking, one last point i ripped off a guy called nick latus head off for an article half this bad and not mentioning stam in th

the equation if nick is out there i am sorry for two things one the way i wnet on with you as it looks like this idiot has done it again and he is a united fan, and two i am sorry that this guy has written something that is so poor and reflects so badly against some of the BEST DECISIONS AND PROBABLY THE HARDEST ONE TO MAKE IN HIS LIFE, phil anyone can shy away from making tough decisions its the real men that make them, have you ever thought of that when you wrote this, SAF was three games off the treble again this season, would you bet on him not to get it this season as well lets face it with the emergance of chelsea and their billions most people had already written us off.

I disagree that these transfers were mistakes. Unless you are Chelsea, football is about trading off talent and money. And the age of players comes into it. Jaap Stam at 29, was sold for 16.5M (a profit of 6M). This money was well used to offset Rio's 30M fee. So in the end it cost about 14M to sell a 29 year old and buy a 23 year old. Lazio were the mugs; after 3 years they saw nothing of their 16.5M they paid. Beckham (at 28), was sold for 25M and Fergie then bought Ronaldo (18)for 12M. After 4 years, Ronaldo is worth 2-3 times what Fergie paid and Beckham takes a free transfer to LA. RVN (29) was sold for 10M which should now be 11m after Real's win. So overall he cost Man Utd 8M for his 150 goals. And without him Man Utd have improved. In a couple of years he will probably go back to PSV for nothing. Fergie works the checque book better than any of Europe's top flight managers (perhaps apart from Wenger). Fergie's attitude to players is obvious. Just play football. Concentrate on

1 - Beckham, didn't play well his last year at United, everyone knew his missus wanted a move, and his celeb lifestyle was becoming more important than his football. Just because Becks has played well for the past 6 months after 3 1/2 years of playing crap, you think Fergie was wrong? 2 - Ruud, asked for a transfer 3 times before he left. United played very 1-dimensional football because the focus was on Ruud, he was slow, lazy and whinged if he didn't get the ball on his foot to score. Instead of moving his slow a@s to get it himself. the only problem with his transfer was that we didn't get enough money but that was his fault as he forced the transfer and so United couldn't hold out for a big fee. 3 - Stam, the most ridiculous one in this article. Stam wrote a book, publicly slandering his manager, calling half a dozen of his teammates w@*kers, and you expect him to be kept at the club??? Astonishingly stupid and un-researched article.

Well behind dumping of the big stars , in my opinion is that he wants to convey a message to other team members that, he does not concentrate on any one player, he gives equal importance to all the players, and i think RVN did not showed good commitment to team, there were some incidences where he did not went for the ball, so i think fergie was correct, and i think thats the reason that he has made so many stars out of nowhere

Theres no doubting fergusons grudge and i have believe it has cost man utd, although in the long run he seems to be able to pull it all back together everytime. However managing a club that big, you need to have someone in charge who is above the superstars, and wont think twice about kinging some Yaap Stam type player out..

I got cut off. What i was saying was, Fergie's attitude to players is obvious. Just play football. Concentrate on football. Get on with your team mates. Don't wrtie books slagging them off. Don't spend all your spare time on advertising, catwalks, night clubs, drinking. Just settle down and get married and play football. That's why Giggs, Scholes, Solskjaer, Keane, Irwin, Cantona, etc etc all got on with Fergie.

excuse me. beckham (although a legend) has not, until the closing stages of this season, replicated his form in a man utd shirt for real madrid, and he was replaced by ronaldo, arguably the best player in the world. van nistelrooy was a whining idiot, although an excellent goal scorer, who's exit helped us to our first title in 4 years. last year van nistelrooy was nothing but an arrogant waste of space. stam i agree with, a great player who was sold for little reason. however who are you to critisise sir alex? get on your bike you nerd.

Another premier league title - just one more reason to show that your full of sh*t.

hey who da hell r u 2 say tat ferguson has been da best manager in the history of da game and all those morons BECKHAM,VAN NISTELROOY AND JAAM STAM were a waste of space and the coach was right in kickin their A** off

i think the public has spoken mate, you are embarresing yourself and manchester united and your reputation as a fan by keeping this tripe up, now i put this to youu, unless all you are intrested in is ratings and hits on your article, i urge you to take this rubbish off and show your commitment to the club you are supposed to support. before any liverpool chelsea or arsneal fans start and make matters worse...

What utter rubbish. I disagree with you completely. Stam was done for drugs after he left United and Beckham's form only picked up this season, after he was thrown out of the England team after the world cup. As for Ruud, well, we've scored even more goals than at any time he was with us. Besides, we only won 1 title during the time he was with us. I think sometimes people need to realise that players need to move on as a wake-up call. I see this in the case of Stam, Beckham and Ruud. Many sentimentalists may not agree with me, but I think SAF sees a lot of things on the training ground day in day out wich fans do not see. Besides, I don't doubt the judgement of soneone who's won 9 titles.

It makes me laugh when someone who clearly knows nothing attempts to write an article like this. Sir Alex never sold those players because he thought they were past it or because they were not good enough for old trafford. He sold them because he needed to ensure team harmony remained in the dressing room and on the pitch. Ruud, as much as I love him and appreciate what he did, slowed the team down unbelievably. We became very predictable because he scores poachers goals most of the time. Which meant the ball had to be delivered from out wide and into the perfect area for im, hence why he was less effective when Becks left, and significantly more effective once reunited with Becks. The United team of present is returning to the traditional flair and pace template which we have famous for over the years and to doubt Sir Alex having rebuilt a new team and brought back the premiership and got us to the FA cup final & Champion league semi-final is ludicrous. Had we kept those players it is impossible to s

say how the outcome would have differed but what would be true is that we would have an aging team in need of being rebuilt!!!

I agree with Phil, there are some players who become the soul of the team. Stam was the rock at the heart of the defence, Rio plays when he wants to, RVN was a goalscoring machine, especially in the Champion League, no-one has really replaced him. As for Beckham what I will always remember was the game against Real Madrid, he was kept on the bench until the last 27 minutes, then came on and nearly won the game single handed. And I remember the photo in the paper, Beckham waving goodbye to fans on their feet, and Sir Alex looking grim,realizing he had just thrown away the opportunity to win the Champion's League by his own arrogance, Real went on to win it. So yes there is a lot of truth in his article. In case you did not see it read Zidane's comment on Beckham "he is one of the greats" enuf said

what an idiot. Ruud had become lazy and had little pace. United were a predictable team the last two years before he left. I woukld also remind you that he was causing unrest in the dressing room. Our attack now is exciting,fast and we score more goals as a team and dont have the weakness of relying on one man. Jaap Stam disrupted a dressing room through stupid comments made in a book when he knew that the dressing room is a place to keep behind closed doors. How would you feel if one of your colleagues betrayed a succesful philosophy and threatened the foundations your success was built on? Beckham lost his personality as a real footballer the moment he put the free kick in against greece for England. Reember he was not even a regular in his final season with Solskjaer being preferred on the right many times. The circus that follows Beckham was a joke and also causing disruption in the club. I wouild al;so remind you that Real have won nothing in four years until last night and only then on a bizar

You left out Roy Keane! Keano was unceremoniously dumped by SAF not long after his tirade on MUTV. He was kicked out of Manyoo 6 months b4 his contract ended. He joined Celtic & won the Scottish double before calling it a day. This coming season will see Keano's Mackems against SAF's Red Devils.

I mean they play their part allright..Beckham and Stam in 98-99,Ruud being the goal machine. BUT if you look back at those days, you will realize that IF SAF hadn't done what he did..It will disrupt the whole team! and ,as a manager, you do not want that! I mean Beckham's high profile life and the way he demands for higher pay, Stam's autobiography which wrote about things that should be kept only inside the dressing room and Ruud's ridiculous behaviour when he was put on the bench because of his poor performance. I mean suggestions are to be taken seriously, but no manager should ever have to alter his decision because a player is not happy about it. Let's face it you cannot make everyone happy, but the one important thing to have, as a manager or as a leader, is the respect of the whole dressing room. I basically believe in SAF's decisions, he has the experience and the mentality. These people should basically look at his achievements before judging him.

Mate, you are well out f order in fact i would not be suprised if it was phil who wrote the articvle typing a bogus name in. stam tese guys are all past it now mate in a season at max. and lets face it get a young striekr in like torres or eto and we have another team for another decade, simple as SAF made the right choice, you have to move on, with ruud gone rondlaod is a world beater, come on mate ruud was selfish last year no one could believe what saf had done most people though he was ready for the nackers yard, a year later we are looking down the table and the country at every one again with no one our equals, and i say again we were three games off the treble, we are stronger now and next year the champions league is ours....

hey Steev before u speak about ur king van nistelrooy, see what u r a big idiot. its clear that u dont know and most of ur friend what is football and quality of football. But i am not here to change the world from idiots like u. And by the way in 2003 when man utd won the league it was because of the duo Ruud and beckham so go to the hell and know the history of real red devils.