Home > Football > The irrational exuberance that augurs ill for Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool
by Ashutosh Singh on 10 July 2007
Email this Article (78) Comments
Free £25 bet when you register at
Famous financial guru Alan Greenspan referred in a famous quote to ''irrational exuberance'' - some time after which the dot-com bubble in the US crashed. But I feel this quote is very apt to today's Premiership, which is burgeoning from mega-deals with Sky and piggy-backing on the largesse of their owners. You have mid-table clubs behaving like Real Madrid, and trying to buy everyone under the sun. Obviously, this has led to inflated player prices and mass hysteria among supporters over expectations for the future. But with only one Premiership champion, four UEFA Champions League spots and a few UEFA Cup places available, not everyone can reach the pinnacle. When the required degree of success is not achieved, what happens to the expectations of the fans, and now much more importantly the expectations of the club owner? 'I can really fall asleep seeing Chelsea or Liverpool play. In fact, I believe loads of people actually did fall asleep while watching that much-hyped and really boring Champions League match'The biggest of them all, Roman Abramovich, seems to have become bored with it all since Chelsea have continually failed to win Champions League. His visits to Stamford Bridge seem to have lessened to quite a degree, and more importantly his cheque book has apparently closed. Still, he can sleep more comfortably at night than most club owners, even if his investments have not given him the returns or the trophy he most craves. The less wealthy clubs really have to look after their investments. Apart from Newcastle's new owner Mike Ashley, I feel that virtually everyone wants to make money out of their clubs. It is a great thought right now to own a club if one has the means, but it is not so much of a good idea when the returns dwindle, which they will tend to do sooner or later. Plus, it is notoriously hard to make real money in football. In this crazy atmosphere, I am convinced that only one club will survive all this and, more importantly, dominate by the end of it. It is Arsenal. Not Liverpool, not Manchester United, not Chelsea, and definitely not Tottenham.
Rafa has already burnt close to £100 million and looks to burn a lot more. And most of us will agree that he has had very little success to show for it. So when his way of achieving success is snubbed, if Liverpool decide to build a new stadium, then where does it leave him - and more importantly the club?Manchester United look great, have achieved recent well-deserved success, and have the biggest stadium and fan base. On the face of it, all looks well. But two things are against them. First, the huge amounts of loan they have taken on account of Malcom Glazer. People point at the Arsenal debt, but you really have to look here for real trouble. The situation looks to be untenable. It can all fall very quickly if things get a little rough. And secondly, the issue of their well-respected and highly successful manager, Sir Alex Ferguson. How many years does he have left in top-flight football? Die-hard optimists may say five years, but no more.
The trouble will arise when Fergie leaves, and the club have a new manager who has a different way of functioning. How will the debt be taken care of then? The best way out ,obviously, is that Glazer sells it to someone who does not need to take a loan to own the club. That is definitely possible, knowing the size of United's support and the profit-making opportunity. The other solution is to make Sir Alex immortal. Jokes aside, they are definitely in a much better position then Liverpool, for whom I really fear. Tottenham can be best described as a selling club. They get excellent rewards for the scouting they do for new players. But the illusion that they have to win something is going to be their downfall. They were really doing very well, performing and behaving like a mid-table club. But now mistaken ambition is making them bite off more than they can chew by signing players like Darren Bent. He is a good player, but hell not worth £16m. Spurs are perennial under-achievers supported by dreamy-eyed followers. Now coming back to Arsenal. The present situation does not look too good - £350m in debt and a young, inexperienced team. Saddled with board uncertainties, they now seem ready for the taking. But the housing project in Highbury will soon finish. And, having already sold 85% percent of the flats at a time of boom in the housing market, they have done well. They will get a good £150m back from it - and can recover the rest easily. They have one of the best stadiums in Europe, with significantly increased corporate seats. Earnings have already increased from £130m to £200m. And with a waiting list for season tickets, which are one of the highest-priced in Europe, they are in a comfortable situation.
One of the reasons for this under-estimation is the success Arsenal have had in dealing with it. But one has only to look at delays and cost overruns at Wembley to be reminded of the pitfalls.One of the most surprising things is that Arsenal are still one of the most attractive football-playing sides on the planet, alongside Barcelona and Manchester United. That is why they have such phenomenal support. I would go on to say that, if left with Chelsea and Liverpool, Sky would in all probability sign a much much cheaper contract with the FA. I can really fall asleep seeing Chelsea or Liverpool play. In fact, I believe loads of people actually did fall asleep while watching that much hyped and really boring Champions League match. So as of now, nobody is jumping ship. Henry wanted to play for Barcelona, that's a small truth. I feel the bigger truth was that Wenger let him leave. Just like he let Patrick Vieira leave. Both had illusions of playing with world-class players. Well, now Vieira, at the end of his career, only makes the headlines when he says anything about Arsenal. As for Henry, I wish him well, but I do not think he will get the God-like treatment at Barcelona that he got at Arsenal. Both these players were wrong in one plain simple fact. World-class players were forming right in front of their eyes. The results are there to be seen. And those world-class stars will continue to form at Arsenal because they have one of the best scouting networks in the world, which delivers players who they do not sell. Backed by the coaching of Arsene, who makes them play in the famous Arsenal way, and with a very good sports science-oriented backroom staff, this team could really explode. This irrational exuberance, when it ends, will have few winners and loads of losers. I think Gunners fans should be thankful, me being one of them, that the reins of the club are being handled very ably by Wenger.
Comments (78)
by Essexian76 (not the gay one) on July 06, 2007
We only sold Carrick because the fee was over the top and also the player wanted to leave.By the same assumption does that make Arsenal more of a selling club in the light of Pires,Henry,Viera, and so on leaving them.utter cobblers.
by Roy on July 06, 2007
Sorry, I really fell asleep during the third paragraph of the article. What a yawn.
by PHIL on July 06, 2007
What has Rafa to show? How about the European cup and FA cup in three seasons? When did Man u, Chelsea or Arsenal last win the biggest title there is to win? Liverpool are most certainly heading in the right direction, no mistake. £20million for Torres is a bargain when you consider £16.5 million for Bent, an England reject, with Alan Smith keeping him out of the England squad. You really are deluded.
by klaus on July 06, 2007
you have missed the main point....outside the top four spending is NOT motivated by getting in to the top four, but by fear of getting sucked into the bottom three...westhams narrow escape will have frightened the life out of any body who spent 100 mio quid on a middle of the road club...the diffrence between relegation and uefa cup is probably about 5 wins...over 38 games thats fuck all..as far as Man U is concerned, they know that the only way to scare chelsea is to spend more...if they get tevez, they will be very hot....liverpool are buying the wrong players as per usual...shoudl have bot tevez not torres....spurs will make progress, jol is a canny operator...arsenal will be there, but havent got enuff experience..newcastle for the time in livin memory have a good manager... but chelsea are the only ones who have a settled team, got clever replacements for the ACN, youngster coming thru like smith and sinclair and are mightily pissed off that MAN U beat them last year...as fergie said before` the secon
by The Crowing Cockerel on July 06, 2007
The White Elephant called the Emirates is the only reason Arsenal havent bought anyone.And before all the gooner fans jump up and down in their caravans, why did Dein resign over the American, if it wasnt that he knew they were in financial difficulties. All of this talk of a warchest of 60 million is a best laughable to a spurs supporter as you actually believe it to be true when all of the evidence points in a different direction altogether.....Downwards
..as fergie said before` the second year is more difficult than the first...CFC champions by easter...
by Dave on July 06, 2007
I think you need to look at the age of Carrick and the ages of Pires, Henry and Vieira. I don't believe either Spurs or Arsenal are selling clubs, it's just that Arsenal seem to have the framework to fulfil their ambitions, whereas Spurs haven't yet put that in place.
by mjc on July 06, 2007
Crowning Cock (or whatever your name is) Dein was sacked/fired/pushed out the door, he didn't resign. As for money, we earned £200m last season. Rather eclipses your £80m earnings.
by BetterdeadthanRED on July 06, 2007
What a pile of crap, Henry is suddenly past it, when only a few days ago he was the second coming.Laughable is the best that could be said about this piece of garbage (jeez I cleaned that up quite well)
Waffle, warchest, waffle Henry, waffle, young kids, waffle,Wenger,waffle Dein...who cares whether he was pushed or resigned........YOUR SKINT!!!!!!!!!!!
by Zae on July 06, 2007
Really, Sportingo's adulation of Arsenal is a bit tiresome but not unexpected - the entire English press is in love with the Gunners for some unfathomable reason. But please tell me, why would be United's debt taken care of in a different way after Fergie's retirement? The managing of the debt is the Glazers' job, it's not the manager's business. He's got nothing to do with and the repayment of United's massive loans will continue regardless of the manager of the football team. "Arsenal's future is bright" - How often we heard that... there are no big four but a big two. Liverpool are always champions during pre-season but realistically, it will be a United v Chelsea fight again.
by Essexian76 9not the gay one) on July 06, 2007
My point exactly, no point in keeping a player who wants to leave or when silly money is thrown at you, like we did with Bent!
by Anon 1 on July 06, 2007
Well said...Pires, Vieira and Henry were past their prime when we sold them...we've built a new ground whilst rebuilding an entire squad and still reached two cup finals...we don't need a benefactor and we're gonna win everything in sight...Spuds who think they're close to us should rewatch the four times we met last year and remember they only made the uefa crap on the last day of the season while we qualified for the champs months before despite the worst injury crisis anyone has ever seen.
by Scouse Billy on July 06, 2007
Dream on, kid ;)
by Fred on July 06, 2007
This is all supposition and invention - how does he know Abramovitch is bored? All wishful thinking I think.
by Franco Mizzi on July 06, 2007
Dear Mr. Singh, You must be an Arsenal fan trying to convince yourself that everything is fine on your side of the fence. First of all Arsenal are well in debt, due to the Emirates Stadium. Secondly that is the same reason why Arsenal can not indulge in the transfer market. Third and not least none of the money the likes of Manchester United, Liverpool etc are spending is coming from the coffers but from the extra GBP 50,000,000 they are gaining from the overseas package and mark this words not from SKY. That contract is completely different then the overseas one. Therfore my dear Mr. Singh just weep and try to console yourself whilst Manchester United clean all before them next season and one very last thing if the players purchased by Manchester United stay with the club for the rest of their careers or close to it then it would have been a very sound investment in actual fact even if they had to leave after 5 or 6 year, that would put the likes of Anderson, Ronaldo, Rooney & Nani in their mid to late t
by Joel Cairo on July 06, 2007
The promised land for TV sports is the United States, and it is US exposure that is enriching all the clubs, but it is the exciting, beautiful game, that played by ManU and Arsenal, that will capture and hold that audience. That, and maybe the strength and iron will of Mourinho's men, because Americans admire the toughness of players like Essian, Terry, Carvalho and Drogba. The world is full of big spenders who paid more than fair market value for their players -- we know that, too. If you want to know why Arsenal is so well covered, take off the blinders! They're the best team to watch, bar none, in the EPL, where the beautiful game must be played against tough defense, unlike in Spain. And, they're taking the road less travelled, and so are a far more interesting subject of conversation than the one-note discussion which can be had about Spurs and Liverpool: did their extravagance get the return it required? Boring.
by Colin on July 06, 2007
Arsenal are going to win everything? Why? You say that the Champions league final was boring but then so was the previous one!Liverpool are going to be in freefall in a few years but they have brought in 14 players already this summer! Most of them are youth players with Leiva, Voronin and Torres in the first team squad. That leaves 11 youth players. At long last we have a manager who is following Wenger's plan and getting in players young in the hope that they will make it when they are older. Benitez is planning for the time when he will not have loads of cash to spend because we are building a new stadium as Arsenal have done.It has worked for Arsenal and it should work for us as well. I think that Arsenal do play great football on occasion but they also have a tendency to try and walk the ball into the back of the net too often. man Utd and Chelsea are also still buying players and the one thing that has to be noted at all these clubs is that they are buying young players (Chelsea not as much as the othe
I've seen Arsenal written off before, just before they went an entire Premiership season and their competitors made big pre-season signings. I think Arsenal's chances of winning the Premiership are on the outside. Not making a big money signing doesn't preclude them from winning it. United are favourites for me, then Chelsea. Whether Liverpool end up above Arsenal is up in the air. Although Arsenal look unsettled as a club ATM there's very little turnover in the first 11. The period around the ANC might be problematic. I don't think Spurs will break into the top four. I'm not convinced there's the know-how in the club just yet. Doing well in the league is a matter of consistency. I do think they'll finish in the top 5 though :-) I think we'll know more 10 games in :-)
by Manish on July 06, 2007
I am so very sure that arsenal are a very well run side. but u see history is not on their side. See the historical lesson for the current trend comes from Italy. The might of AC milan and inter came with the moneybag owners (berlusconi).The italian giants whom we now carelessly mention in best clubs ever. (Milans all CL victorys are after mid 80s.) Same thing now is happening with england .Chelsea, liv and manu are now attracting the best players. And as for going broke, no chance sir. No not even your beloved arsenal ,not liverpool, not chelsea and definetely not manu. Cause the money these guys get from league and sponsorship is enough to handle at least 50 million spending every year as per the new earning for the top four who play in CL. and arsenal is only there because of their new stadium. See it this way, if rafa leaves, liverpool wont be that bad mate.Even before him we won some cups and were good enough.(" I really fear for them", haha. really??). Manu if fergie goes,have enough tradition of a
by 46 and still counting on July 06, 2007
I always thought of myself as a FOOTBALL supporter - The main stick other "supporters" are hitting Arsenalwith would seem to be hitting us with is the fact (?) that Arsenal have less money than their team. None of us - me included - have inside details of exactly what the financial situation is at their club or is likely to be in the future but OK I will go along with you we are SKINT. WE STILL PLAY BETTER FOOTBALL THAN THE REST OF YOU ( ManUre excepted ) Well done Chelsea - YOu play Shit football in a shit stadium and have a nega bucks backer. For Chelsea substitute Liverpool ( Anfield great history shit ground even you want out ) As for the Spuds you are a complete joke and not worth comparison. As For ManUSA - Respect for your achievements but you have just spunked over £50m again - WEll done you have loadsa cash - and loadsa debt. The media love Arsenal - have a fucking word i have seen nothing but bad press because a slightly over the hill player who has been a unsettling influence in the dressing ro
by Vivas on July 06, 2007
I think you made some good points but there are a few things I would add. First on Chelsea, I dont think that Abramovitch is bored but rather we have to bear in mind that he has a huge about of business interests in addition to Chelsea. Several of his fellow oligachs have fallen foul of Putin and it would be prudent for him to keep Putin onside. I think this is a more logical explanation for his absense. Spurs i have never understood. Where does all their money come from? I think that this has to be the season for them; if they dont make the champions league places this season then there will be some serious issues with money for them. Moreover whatever Spurs fans say about Arsenal lack of transfer activity, the long term future of Arsenal looks much better with the Stadium in place, raising greater revenue. Man Utd wont make many signing for the coming seasons after this one. I think this summer is special for them in the sense that they are spending now to ensure they dont have to spend in the following
by craig on July 06, 2007
Do you have any idea about accountancy, if you did you would not go on about loan and finance like you did. 1. man u debts are rapped around there capital, glazier has used loan capital to buy united as a apposed to share capital on the stock exchage, the dividend was aproved year in year out at 12% ROE. thats 77 million every year, the loan capital is at 64 million intrest and capital payment, arsenal find them self in a nett debt situation having 300 million of debt and share holders so in your mind how does that make you abetter bet. by the way yes i do know what i am talking about its called being a chartered accountant registered with the A.C.C.A. and exercising my right to go on the companies house web site pay my £1 and get a copy of there accounts via my company.. so dont talk about what you dont understand asyou have to satify large debts and share holders with a much smaller stadium, less revenues from winningthe premiership and lower treturned from the cl. by the way last time i checked all your b
big name players have now bailed and wenger is in talks with real, and you have not won anything for about 3 years now. so why are you the better bet???
by MagicHat on July 06, 2007
Nice to see someone who really sees how well that the Arsenal is being run, and what a house of cards these other clubs are built on.
by Astonishised! on July 06, 2007
You actually believe it!, incredible, unbelievable one eyed ostrich like writing.......350million pounds in debt, thats only the tip of the iceberg.....no company tells the truth about their failings..that is until (Mr Bates for example, and Mr Risdale before him)...it's far too late
by The Premier on July 06, 2007
Since Arsenal is such a diminishing force nowadays I wonder how many supporters can say their team will have a go when they visit the Arsenal. My guess is your teams will now go to the home of this minnows and cower in defence.
by craigisanumpty on July 06, 2007
Craig, ManU revenues are circa £200m. Arsenal revenues are c ££200m. Man U has around £600m in debt, much of which is hedge fund provided and likely to be around 12% p.a. Arsenal have £350m debt, falling to around £200m from summer 2009 when the Highbury Square development comes on stream. This debt is predominantly fixed rate at around 6.5% p.a. Further, the covenants around the debt, currently requiring that £33m in cash be kept aside will fall away at the same time. Now go work out the cash flow projections. Accountancy exams must be getting easier......
by Nicolas on July 06, 2007
And what are the world players at Arsenal now? Sesc-top 10 player for his position, who else? I can wait. Arsenal is going down with Wenger. They will be Tottenham next year and in 2-3 Man C. if Wenger does not go. Great manager but his ideas ran out.
by radar on July 06, 2007
Listen...even when Manure were spending big (as usual)...18 mil on Ruud,13 mil on forlan ,29 Mil on Ferdinand,24 mil on Veron,28 mil on Rooney etc etc Arsenal still managed to win trophies on a limited budget..what makes all the big spenders think this latest flashing of their cash will stop us ?.....
by Ewan on July 06, 2007
Your entire arguement is a joke. Liverpool haven't had any success? Just the Champions League & FA Cup, plus a few more final appearances to boot which we were unlucky in. Rafa had to pick up with Houllier's average squad and has now shaped it into a title challenging squad. It looks like we haven't been shafted by the FA with the fixtures this year (not away at the top 3 after a champions league game like last season), so a slow start should hopefully be avoided. We've got a new stadium on the way which will lead to increased revenue, and we've also got a talented bunch of youth players (highligted by us winning the FA Youth Cup the last 2 years), and Rafa has continued to add lots of the worlds finest talent, with the likes of Leiva and Pacheco. We also have Malcolm Elias as our Director of Recruitment, and he helped unearth such talents as Walcott (haha) and Bale at Southampton, so we're pretty sound there. The part about Rafa "burning" money is hilarious, we've signed some of the best young players in t
by Van Perry on July 06, 2007
Great article, definantly biased, but what the hell im a gooner. At the moment i feel Wenger has his best chance yet of creating the ultimate football team; but that is still 2 or 3 years away if it ever happens. In themean time, as in 2006, Arsenal will reach cup finals and beat main rivals etc, but im interested to see if we have the power, depth and maturity to sustain a title bid. As for Man Utd, tehy were fantastic last season, and they will be next. But they are spending huge money, and high risk investments have proven to be a grey area for Ferguson. I still feel they are the front runners tho. Chelsea, well it a league or 'buy buy' Jose this season. If United and Arsenal maintain or increase the technical excellence of their football, i think Chelsea will fall short of the title. And now Liverpool, Benitez is so interesting. Half the time he is a genius, the rest of the time i think he is clueless. He is definantly building a great squad and they will challenge next year; but of the 'Big 4' I feel th
by 5yearplan on July 06, 2007
klaus "A settled team" Your having a laugh
by Christovski on July 06, 2007
Bobby Robson wasn't a good manager?
by to the author on July 06, 2007
Did your mum send off to the market with a cow...and you cameback with three beans?, talk about deluded. So Chelsea are finished 'cos Romans now bored, Man Utd are so skint that they're buying the world and his dog. Spurs a selling club, yet have bought 30 million pounds worth of players?. Liverpool are heading for the championship under Rafa?...but everything at the Emirates is fine and dandy?, hope the fall on your head wasnt too severe, but you really should get help......and fast mate!
by che grimandi on July 06, 2007
cracking article. i hope to christ you're right, but a cracking article nonetheless!
by Michael on July 06, 2007
Bang on. The one thing arsenal fans forget is that what ever debt a man is in before he buys the club automatically add's to the debt of the club. The ammount of post's i have read where arsenal fan's are screaming for wenger to buy a big name player like eto or tevez wich would cost 30 million is beggers belief. The way the club is ran is excellent.If you look at what we have we have to thing's. A manager in charge of every thing to do with the pitch side of the club and is second to no one as a manager. The second is that because wenger is in charge of the football sde of the club it leave's the board to focus on the finacial side and both board and the manager have worked in relative harmony you would have to say untill recently that is. Next season will tell us every thing.I think we are capible of winning the league but we will just have to wait and see.
by Mad_Man_Moon on July 06, 2007
Sorry, I'm a gooner ... and I got bored of this ... you sound like an Arsenal fan just trying to make it sound like everything is going to be OK. Everything is ... of course ... but this is a load of old tosh. Sorry, just my opinion.
by gempak on July 06, 2007
greetings from malaysian gooners.i like the way u dissect the situation at hand. arsene is a brilliant manager and his skills in scouting is proven by signing eduardo, understanding the team's major weakness rather than buying anyone available haphazardly. (do man u really need to buy another striker?) vive le arsenal !!!
by steve on July 06, 2007
Arsene Wenger is seen by many as the best manager in the world for his ability to get success with little budget.Dont forget how Mour,cried loudly when Roman bank closed on him!
by Danish Gooner on July 06, 2007
I would ten times rather win the league on a shoestring budget then do it like nouveau riche Chelsea spending a perverse amount of money and then claiming they have done it the right way and that they are historically londons greatest team.......What a laugh !!!!!!!!!!!!
by Thomas on July 06, 2007
To Craig. If you're such as wiz at accounting or 'accountancy' why the hell can't you fecking spell or put together a coherent sentence . It's 'wrapped' and not, rapped. It's 'their' and not there. And learn to use spell check. It will make you seem more intelligent you halfwit.
by wil briggs on July 06, 2007
It remains to be seen of course, whether or not this young side can "explode",but I agree that at present Arsenal seem to be the only club keeping their feet firmly on the ground.Wenger continues to go about his business in an assured calm professional way, making intelligent signings rather than big name ones.Whether or not this policy satisfies the Arsenal faithful,the prudence with which the clubs finances are being handled has to be admired.It will be a case of 'watch this space'when the long term benefits of such prudency start paying off!
by andy on July 06, 2007
Rafa has spent 89m before this year and sold 42m. How does equate to 100m spent? additionally, wenger, who yes, I confess does well with less resources, has spent on a par with rafa. Do you know how much his 'kids' cost? Like your article style, but your facts are way off.
by Mr Doubtfire on July 06, 2007
By your cunnig analysis, Arsenal will be playing Arsenal reserves every week as there'll be no one else to play as they'll have all gone to the wall?, why........isnt it Arsenal who are in a financial mess, and havent bought anyone of note, sold their best player/s because they need the dosh and cant afford the salaries (Campbell/Henry), and are making a lot of noise..but are actually watching all the players they want get snapped up by clubs who are actually in PROFIT, and still you go on about the kids!
by alec on July 06, 2007
what a load of crap
by mickey on July 07, 2007
You need to take a lot at the increases in TV money this season. Irrational - that is letting your team fall apart when the money is doubling.
by James on July 07, 2007
Very sensible analysis. The fact that all these Liverpool, Man Utd and Chelsea fans are foaming at the mouth proves they fear the embarrassment of Arsenal spending next to nothing then trashing them over the next 5 years. I actually think Benitez is doing a decent job, Man Utd are putting themselves in all sorts of trouble when Ferguson leaves, and Chelsea... well they're the fake tits of the footballing world.
by Sherief on July 07, 2007
Robert Schiller gets credit for the concept of "irrational exuberance," a fact Greenspan cited in that same quote. Like many, however, you've taken half an argument and distorted it. Consider the turmoil Arsenal find themselves in- on top of the stadium, and rumours of foreign takeovers, you've lost your talisman, the coach has a short amount of time to run on his contract, and players are aligning their futures with his, not the club's. Oh, and when your manager and star player who's left link their intentions with the recently departed David Dein, that does not bode well, either. All of this is being aired publicly, while Stan Kroenke waits to pick his moment. Secondly, Rafa spent 100million pounds- net or gross? And what has he recouped with outgoing player sales? No accurate details there, I noticed. What else do you know abour Rafa's ethos, if anything? Do you even recall his achievements at Valencia on a shoestring? As for achieving very little success- he's done OK, with the CL early on, and last ye
by Jammathon on July 07, 2007
The article is sound, and the economic model it follows works well enough: http://tinyurl.com/2pt963
by Eddie Yak Leong Fien on July 07, 2007
I totally and wholeheartedly agreed your comment is well said. Your orientation is head on and accurate. Arsenal will be there, I mean way UP THERE !
by Jakarta Gunners on July 07, 2007
I have a dream that we will one day live in a nation where Arsenal will not be judged by the amount of money they spend but by the artistry of their football... Well said Mr. Singh Waiting your next article
by Yiddogray on July 07, 2007
Maybe you should try and write an artical that isn't so biased. Your still in debt - what if you finish 5th next year??? Tottenham haven't yet graced the CL but have paid big money for players. Should Arsenal fail to get the income from that, would your future look so bright? Tosh!
by The Crowing Cockerel on July 07, 2007
I have often wondered why anyone over the age of thirty ever wanted to support Arsenal?, boring functional, under Graham..dour and ruthless under Mee...Why all the fuss about Wenger leaving..you'll just return to type in the end and leave the glory game to those who know how to play it
by Sean on July 07, 2007
What if we finish 5th? You are kidding right? Noone out of the top 4 will challenge, as per usual, and our new stadium is making alot of money and we will be out of debt sooner then later. Remember when they planned and financed the stadium CL and other tournaments were NOT taken into account. Also, Campbell wanted to leave he wasnt sold he left on a bosman. And if you believe Wenger is talking to Real, AFTER Real have announced their new manager, then you are just foolish and shouldnt comment. What will Chelsea do when Abrom and Mouridiot leave? When Fergie retires and Man U remain in deep Glazier debt? No comment on the Spuds, too easy. 16 mil for Bent? Your having a laugh.
by Torres on July 07, 2007
Rubbish
by George on July 07, 2007
With all the respect that is rightfully due to Arsene Wenger, the comments made above are sort of assuming that Arsene will be there for ever. What will Arsenal do after Arsene. Granted that money got Chelsea to where they are now - with the reckless spending and all that - but lack of money will only get you to where Leeds United are now, and they are as great a club as any that there are in the Premiership right now. I find most of the talk about money in the Premiership as sort of sour grapes. Chelsea could only look on as the great clubs of the day spent silly money (for those days) on Keane, Ferdinand (both Rio and Les), etc. etc. So now that Chelsea are in some money, I really expect them to compete financially for the best players available. I bear no ill feeling towards any of the Premiership clubs, because it is through the contribution of al of them that the Premiership is the best league in the world. As a sideline - it would be most appropriate for Arsenal to name their new stadium after Arsene W
by Anand on July 07, 2007
I actually did fall sleep when liverpool played Chelsea.Can't say for sure, which was the bigger bore.
Well its been heavily hinted that when Wenger ends his career as a manager he will stay at Arsenal and help with recruiting etc etc.
by Alex on July 07, 2007
You are basing the fact that all the other big clubs will collapse and Arsenal will become the top team on the youth players turning into super stars. At the moment only 1 has really impressed and that is fabregas. Walcott seems condemned to mediocrity, denilson is untried and could easily be a failure, bedntner again hasn't been proven adebayor is terribly inconsistent. When it comes to the other clubs, I can not see abramovich leaving chelsea as he said he aims for a 100 year era, and considering we want to spend 15mil on malouda and pato and about 5 on drenthe and a new 20 million pound youth academy you can hardly say that the cheque book is closing. Yes man u are in debt and they will be in toublt without ferguson, i can't see themfalling below the top 3 for a long time. Liverpool are almost ready to challenge for the title as they just need to invest a bit more in the wings and defence and they could become a threat. Spurs now have probably the most allround and strongest strike forces in the prem, and
by craig on July 07, 2007
dod youknow actually know what a hedge fund is mate??? anyway try 4.7% 2 points above the base rate of the bank of america, for our debt mate and all we have is the debt which is rapped up in the purchess of the business. now lets try to explain this so a idiot can understand. there are only two ways you can buy a company. number 1 via share capital, number twio via loan capital, basically there is no difference one type wants interest the other type wants dividends which have to be declared at the start of the financial year... the difference is that not only do you have to satsify share holders on the exchange but you also have £300 million in debt, so you are in a nett debt situation we are in a gross debt situation, but the way man u was earing £220 million i take it you were quoting delottes financial figures, ha dont think i dont know were you got them from, if you check they will be from the 2005/2006 season before we got the stadium up by 9000 seats and got the incresed sponcership from betfred and A
AIG. and also before we won the premiership which netts 30.4 million and also the difference in tv rightsbetween 1st and second for the premiership with the cl is 10 million, so you will be best to guess us as oushing £260 to 270 million this year my friend as we also gotr to the semi finals in the cl and the fa cup final which also means we get revenue from that, where aas you probably forgot to mention that you did not get to the cl final soyour revenue will be dropping substantially, iu wiuod say probably about 185 to 190 million but i suppose we will have to wait for my prediction, problem is deep down you know i am right... oh by the way why dont youput your name down "craig is a numpty" so at least i know who the idiot is...
by tHE cROWING cOCKEREL on July 07, 2007
It's very hard for Gooners to hear you when thier heads are buried in the sand, and going La La La La with a finger in each earhole!!
by king on July 07, 2007
well craig or whatever ur name is....the truth is that every fan wants his club to be the best, they defend their beleif and thts exactly wht a fan should do. now the truth is that even if arsenal are in debt and henry has left.....u need to look at the club's performance under wenger, to really pass a comment. when wright left, no one would have believed wenger could unearth henry.......but he did and that my friend is the man and thts what the club stands for. there are important players but no one is bigger than the club. Henry was the king but so was wright. Success depends on how you face today and plan tomorrow. so dont worry bout what the gooners feel....there is a famous quote every arsenal fan will remind you of, "Arsene Knows".
by Essexian76(Not the gay one) on July 08, 2007
It depends...... has he bought another Henry.or invested heavily in another Wiltord or Jeffers..no he doesnt get it right every time..just a lot of the time
by Sean on July 08, 2007
Walcott mediocrity? He has been injured, but im sure you remember that quality goal that 18 YEAR OLD KID put past your 1sts in the Carling Cup. Plus he has been a star in the internationals juniors. And Denilson showed ALOT in the games he played. After those comments you made Alex, credibility = 0. Spurs issues have never been their strike force, its their defence. Their back 4 isnt strong and Robinson is rubbish.
by Alex on July 08, 2007
That's one goal in an entire season and even a rubbish league two player could score a good goal against chelsea, that does not mean he is a star for the future- just look at pennant. Denilson has shown a little bit of talent not A LOT and now, even though i hate to say this, spurs have a strong back four which could rival arsenal.s, with king, dawson and now kaboul in the centre and chimbonda and bale at full back.
by kevin on July 08, 2007
just watch sevilla in the chapions leauge bye
by Neller on July 08, 2007
Rafa has little success? in 3 seasons hes reached the CL final twice once winning it and also winning the FA cup. If thats what he can do with players he didnt want what hes going to be able to do with ones he does? Took fergie 5 years i belive to win a trophy
by Steve Bott on July 09, 2007
So you're saying Man United, Chelsea and Liverpool will fail to finish in the top seven and qualify for a European spot eventually. While Arsenal may well continue to stay strong amidst their current problems I don't think Man U, Chelsea and Liverpool are just gloing to disappear from view. Chelsea may do if Abramovich disappears, but Liverpool and Man U have the pedigree and name to survive even if their current American owners do a runner.
by CurryMuncher on July 10, 2007
Dear Mr Singh, hopefully your articles get better, as your very first one was rubbish. Another deluded Arsenal fan no doubt. It must be contagious at the Emirates, as Wenger is a whiny bitch too!
by Shane Robinson on July 13, 2007
Right then, we'd better sit back so and wait for soccer to collapse around us then? Liverpool & United competing for the Conference title because we have gone bankrupt. Oh, 'largess of their owners'? That your phrase for the week, you use it more than once in there. Anyway, not to digress, I'd better let you get back to lighting candles in front of your Arsenal team poster and stroking yourself to pictures of Henry. Loser
by Liverpool is heading disat$%^ on July 13, 2007
Rafa will carry on signing new players.the bummer is just burning money.Let's face it, liverpool is still not gonna win it. and all you f***ers, who claim you can buy the cup, you will run of excuses.
by Fiz on July 13, 2007
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahaha.Bitter Gooner
by CJM on July 13, 2007
I think if you look at net spending, Arsenal are in Spurs and Liverpool country. For example, they've already spent £12m on a 16yr old. Can you remember how many millions they spent on Henry and Wiltord etc all those years ago? £10.5m for Henry, £13m for Wiltord, Lauren/Edu/*Jeffers*/Pires/Van Br/Wright/Reyes/Rosicky £53M combined. Not excessive spending perhaps but would be noticeably but for the canny sales of Anelka and Overmars for £48M combined.
by Parmesh on July 13, 2007
...I think that I should point out that the one being "irrationally exuberant" is the guy predicting inexorable success, based on one man and a lot of potential. Have another quick flip through your Economics textbooks and you might realize that the successful histories and enormous fanbases of Liverpool and United have not come about because they have a lot of money to spend, the have a lot of money to spend because of their fanbases and histories. They won't be turning into Leeds any time soon. I can't really figure out what the basis for your theory here is.
Add your comment here
PERSONAL ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED
First Name
Last Name
Email
Heading
Display your favourite sport or football team badge with your comment.
Sport
League
Team
Comment *
Please enter the text you see in the picture into the textbox below. *
Lions 'King' on the prowl ahead of Super 14 clash with Stormers
Stormers warning ahead of their Super 14 opener with the Lions
Australia's Boxing Kangaroo flies proudly - no thanks to the IOC
Arsenal Champions League Chelsea Cricket news Euroleague Fantasy football Football news Formula 1 Liverpool Manchester United NBA Newcastle United Premier League Sports news Tottenham Hotspur Transfer rumours Twenty20 UEFA UEFA Champions League
© SportBuzz All rights reserved 2008 Sportingo- Sports News & Sports Articles site. Sportingo delivers fresh sports news and analysis by fans-Football News, Tennis News, Rugby Union News, Rugby League, Cricket News, Cycling News, Basketball News and other Sports TV. XML Sitemap 2008.