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by Gareth Johnson on 03 August 2007
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by Ralph Little on August 03, 2007
Really liked the piece Gareth, even though you weren't too keen on one of mine (joke). I think you made some good points, i am a season ticket holder but i really don't like the patronising abuse that supposed 'real-fans' give supposed 'non-fans'. Being present at a stadium or in an armchair, as long as you love your team you are as worthy as each other in my view.
by Anonymous on August 03, 2007
Ok ok so you won. But I needed something to eat ok?
by BIGJOHN on August 03, 2007
"drinking and violent culture prevalent on some grounds" How would you know - you don't go?
by Yan on August 03, 2007
Very true... i work with a chelsea fan and a watford fan, both of which are season ticket holders for their teams.... they constantly put me down saying that i am not a TRUE fan and i dont go to as many games as i could ect,...ect... what a load of crap..... i am as much fan as they are, i shout at my telly as much as they shout on the pitch... dont get me wrong i do go to some games and would love to go to them all but the prices of tickets i just cant afford to go week in week out.... I have about 8 ticket stubbs from last year and they total over £ 300....
by London_Guy on August 03, 2007
I watched Spurs from the 60's through to the last time they won the UEFA Cup and missed only a handful of home games during that time. I also travelled several times a season to watch them. Circumstances have changed in my life now to the extent I can only really get to watch them via video highlights on their wesbite. However, I get as excited as ever when they win and as despondant as ever when they lose. I still have my pet love and pet dislike to players. I feel I am still entitled to my opinions as long as I accept they have to been taken in the context of the limitations I have. I dont feel less of a Spurs than I ever was.
by c411um on August 03, 2007
don't really have the time or the money to do the 12000 mile round trip to white hart lane every game but i sit up till 4-5 in the morning watching them mid week and see all 38 of their league games (thankyou espn!!) but i suppose i am scum also....
by Essexian76 (not the gay one) on August 03, 2007
Can fans see games at the lane, as they are sold out every week?, Football is a global game with support in every corner of the world.Teams use friendlies to promote themselves and therefore increase the awareness of the EPL,Which is why the EPL has secured the TV deal recently, and the FL have benefitted accordlingly.This hasn't been done by fans attending games, it's been done by fans subscribing to TV, such as yourself.Increased stadium capacity is not really that beneficial when you look at the figures generated by other influences, such as media and marketing. Unfortunately it means a change in the way football has been for over a century, but hey everything changes1
by Scarboro Spur on August 03, 2007
Some of us for whatever reason end up living long distances from their original manor but still retain their passion for "their team" even if their following is via "Match Choice" live broadcasts, or "Match of the day". I have been a Spurs supporter since Arthur Rowe and Billy Nicholson and would claim a right to comment on team affairs whether those comments are considered positive or occasionally negative. I envy those able to attend WHL regularly but logistics make this impossible for me.
by Cwoff.com on August 03, 2007
Although it has to be said that going to live games is not as unappealing as you make it out to be. I used to go early with my mate, get warm sitting next to the open oven eating at our favourite kebab shop then head to the game... and that was before we played the sort of football we play now! But I personally think that you (and myself and mate) are probably GREATER fans than the blindly following, tribal supporter. I now get to see EVERY match and I see it impartially and with replays. What is more I support my team and not those playing my team's rivals.
by DannyMackay on August 03, 2007
You are a real fan if you care about your team. There really isn't much more to it than that.
by Steven Elmes on August 03, 2007
Excellent Piece Gareth. I also am a armchair fan at the moment, but spurs are my team i grew up in london and my grandfather used to play for the club. we then moved to Lancashire and the only way i can get to see the games is via sky/setanta or the internet.but every season i go see the games that are close to me i.e Blackburn, Citee, Utd, but that doesn't make me any less of a fan.
by James on August 03, 2007
I've been a Spurs fans since 1985... but only ever lived in London for 2 years of that time. Been living in Prague for 5 years. I watch every single game on TV - yes, it is possible if you have a big enough satellite dish and can pick up South African and German channels! And I got to the Lane for 3 games last year (as I only come to England twice a year). I actually missed the Spurs game in Prague (as I was away on business in Cyprus), but flew to the return game in London on the plane with the Slavia players as Slavia is a financial client of mine. :o) I live and die for Spurs and I guarantee I know more about the club than 90% of the people in the ground because the fact I am so far away makes me grab and cherish every nugget of information and gossip I can find...
by defoe18 on August 03, 2007
Great stuff
by Moses on August 03, 2007
I myself agree with your article, however, I believe the point in question comes down to whether you consider yourself a fan or a supporter. I class myself as a fan, I buy the shirt, the mug, and when I can, trundle off to The Lane and watch the team a couple of time a season. The rest of the time I sit at home and watch them on the box when they are on. I class a supporter as the season ticket holders, that have all the shirts, travel week in week out to both Home and Away games. In this sense they "support" the team not only in terms of watching and getting behind the team, but in terms of the investment they offer club by signing up to their season ticket year in year out. That in my opinion is the true difference in being a fan or a supporter of your team.
by 4everaspur on August 03, 2007
A club is like a living being it has all the component parts. Unfortunatly for you the part you were lumbered with is located between two cheeks is usually in the dark and when exposed to daylight, very often pours out copious amounts of crap.
by RobboJol10 on August 03, 2007
and appreciate what you're saying, that said i also watch some of the cup games on t.v and i think you miss things that the cameras don't pick up on when watching on television. If i'm speaking to someone who was at a game i've missed i would be less likely to argue with them over a players performance as i think you get a better sense of the game if you are actually there. That said i'm sure there's some who feel as I only watch the home games and sit in the quiet West Stand i'm not a "proper" Spurs fan, i think the last comment is right as long as you care that's all there is too it and caring isn't something you can quantify. Not sure about the drinking and violent culture comment though, this will be my fifth season as a season ticket holder and i've never seen a fight or any drunken behaviour, i'm sure it's there if you look for it but if you don't it won't find you.
by Dave Goldberg on August 03, 2007
Sorry Gareth, but I have to disagree with you.Not everyone can afford to follow their team home and away.Work commitments may also prevent others from going to matches. Living extreme distances from your club is also a valid reason.However,if you make no attempt whatsoever during the season to try and see your team play "in the flesh" I believe you can't be considered to be a true supporter.Why do you think Man Utd and Chelsea supporters are hated so much? People just follow them because they are top of league. 75% of Man Utd supporters have never been to Old Trafford! Chelsea,who's ground capacity is only 42,000 don't fill it on a regular basis.So there is no excuse for their so called "supporters" to claim that they can't get a ticket. Although I admire your dedication to Spurs there is no way you can ever consider your self a true supporter without experiencing the true pain and also the ultimate pleasure of actually being there.
by David Coker on August 03, 2007
I am a season ticket holder with 3 other members of my family, two of them my adult children, I agree that youdo not have ao attend games to be a true supporter, I have had times in my life when my children where young where family life was a much hgher priority, but I would also life to say that the fans who do attend are very passionate and knowledgable, three sides of the ground are always singing and supporting the team, the rich est stand being the acception, it would be nice to get rid of the corparate hangers on and reduce ticket prices for real fans but that is another story
by Dubai Yid on August 03, 2007
Up until April this year i travelled home and away (when i could as play on a Saturday) with the Spurs. Its a nightmare getting tickets, i'm back in UK for the Utd game at Old Trafford, this will be the only game i'm back for this year and am hoping to get a ticket. For the rest of teh season i shall be laying on my sofa with a bottle of Holsten (true fan me!) watching the games on showtime and the highlights on SpursOnline TV. Back to the armchair fan debate, if there was no armchair fan who would the rest of us have the armchair fan debate with? Imagine football without the armchair fan, imagine sitting in work on a Monday morning having to talk about shopping with the Mrs rather than Berba's first touch in the 61st minute, or Mendes' goal that never was or the atmosphere during the Seville game at the lane last season, who would we be able to relive the tales of travelling to that sh!thole Riverside needing a win to qualify for Europe on the last game of the previous season not having a shot at goal, los
by spoony on August 03, 2007
I was born in Yorkshire and now live in Newcastle and have supported Spurs since I knew what football was. This is because of my Dad who also born in Yorkshire decided that they were the team for him when he was a kid in the late 40's. He is so committed to suporting the team that not only did he bring another spurs fan into the world (me) he also managed to convince my mum to go to London for their honeymoon and take in a game at the Lane. I go to as many games as possible usually the away games round the north east and sometimes can't even get in with the Spurs fans. Try watching an FA cup QF at St James' supporting Spurs but in with the Toon fans, it's tricky to pull off without being killed. Just cos I'm not a season ticket holder does not mean I am not a fan. But I do find it hard to understantdthat you prefer to watch the game on TV rather than go, to me that's strange. If I lived near London and could get hold of a season ticket I would.
by Bananaman on August 03, 2007
TOSS
by BBC001 on August 03, 2007
I am sorry but this has got to be one of the worst pieces ever written about going to games. people like you make me sick, I am a Tottenham fan, and while you are happy in your armchair people like us will be going up and down the country watching our teams. Sky have ruined football. eg Sunderland away 12 45 Man U away Sunday at 4 Newcastle away Monday at 8 WHAT A JOKE SKY IS
by Ian on August 03, 2007
I understand your point but think you are just dealing in semantics rather than any qualitative distinction - as pointed out in the artcile, even armchair 'fans' put money into the club via Sky or PPV. I will go to about 8-12 Games this season but would still say that by buying the shirts or even using Prem Plus I am 'supporting' the team, even if I never get to the lane