Steven Gerrard wants to play for England, so why can't Liverpool fans leave him be?

Clearly not a Liverpool fan then. You must have become completely immersed by the nation concept whilst achieving your degree, I cannot see any other reason that you would make such a broad and sweeping generalisation that we do not support England ( I don't. I'm Irish but that is beside the point). The real issue here is Benitez has asked McLaren not to give Gerrard a pain killing injection as it takes a player most of the next week to recover and of course there is the risk he could do more damage and thus see a long time out. This is inconceivable to Liverpool, losing our captain. Granted we have done quite well without him but there are always those games where we need something special and quite often he is the one to deliver it. Villa on the opening day case in point. There is, therefore, little point in you harping on about the club vs. country row and various other England debates being exhausted to the point of utter, utter boredom when you are just doing exactly that, adding another layer to the sn

snowball. Not sure who you support but don't expect us all to be so naiive that you would take it on the chin should your captain or talisman be in exactly this situation. I can see it from all points of views, Rafa wants Gerrard wrapped up so he's recovering and ok for Liverpool, McLaren is sweating to save his job thanks to the poisoned chalice that is England managment if your lot aren't playing free flowing football and banging in the goals and the player himself. If Gerrard's performances can sometimes be questioned for England, (put it down to tactics, not clicking with Lampard, John Barnes syndrome, etc.) his dedication and desire to play for his country cannot. To finish, your argument is obvious and no prizes for being original. It is clearly biased too so another zero for objectivity. Now put away your tar brush and get back to figuring out what a country is like a good chap.

No One is saying that! most liverpool supports dont want him to play incase his injury fires up again and we have to be with out him for a couple of more weeks! so to say we scouse and dont care about the england team is wrong! am from liverpool and love to see england do well, but you here arguments from all teams that they only care about their team not england so why pick on us scousers?o thats why because were scouser!???

I am a Liverpool fan, and I DO want Gerrard to play for England as do the majority of ENGLISH Liverpool fans BUT NOT IF HE IS INJURED. Liverpool fans are no different than United fans were over Rooney or Giggs. All we don't want is that the injury is made no worse and he can play his full role for Liverpool. I seem to recall Arsenal fans being touchy about Henry playing for his country but that was France so it doesn't matter as much!!!! No chance of an Arsenal player not being fit enough to play for England - they have not got any left!!!

Gerrard has never put England before Liverpool. He had an operation on his groin before the world cup in 2004 when he could of had it after. He wanted to do right by Liverpool. The lad loves footy and just wants to play. No harm in that unless he's injured. No injections please especially for people who won't appreciate it!!

Last season, if Henry had broken a toe and France wanted to give him an injection to play against a crap team you'd be fuming. Stop being a tard.

Gerrard is not 100% fit, therefore he should not play for England. He needs to fully recover for the next Liverpool game. Club before country every time for me. Until the F.A decide to get their act together, and appoint someone who knows about managing a football team

The case in fact is that by allowing the player to play for his country (an opportunity all players strive for) while injured is completely absurd. If he is injured with summin that puts him out for 6 months will the FA then step up and say oooops we made the error and we will pay his salary etc. You should wake up and smell what ur shovelling the argument is not should Steven play for England but rather should he risk further injury playing for them. It all seems so clear cut in the completely biased article but it isn't. Risking further injury is not summin any one should be allowed to do.

Gerrard is the one who chooses if he plays or not. And if Benitez can play him with a broken toe and pain killing injections, then so can McClaren. Plus I did not write he was putting country before club, the editor did.

Mclaren is the only one to be blamed,, you know why,, coz he's just piece of shit who want to save his job,, having stevie for the israel game and lampard for the russia game , so simple to undersatnd

We all hate McClaren, hence why I feel so passive about this match, he has taken all my enthusiasm out of internationals.

If he was a ManUre player, he wouldn't even be there. How many times has rednose ferguson pulled his players out of an international with BOGUS injuries just to keep them fresh for the premiership?!?!? LFC pay his wages, so that's where his priorities are - end of story!

Who pays his wages? Who supports him through everything? Stevie gets abuse week in week out from opposition fans, and these are the same ones who will now be saying it is right he puts England first. Ferguson and Mourinho are both allowed to pull players out of squad's without even an eyelid being batted, and yet when it's Liverpool it is apparently wrong to expect the player to have loyalty to his club.

Steven gerrard has a broken toe for god's sake. How can we force a human being to play soccer when he is injured. We are impsing unnecessary risk to his health. And haven't the medics say that if he were to use pain killers he would not be able to train for at least 2 days. Not a good sign since next wednesday's game is also important

[quote]Gerrard is the one who chooses if he plays or not. And if Benitez can play him with a broken toe and pain killing injections, then so can McClaren. Plus I did not write he was putting country before club, the editor did.[/quote] Who is paying Stevie's salary? Will anybody compensate Liverpool if Stevie aggravated his injury and cannot play for a few months? Why are you being coward who could not stand by what you had said and had to blame it on the editor?

Liverpool have no qualms about Stevie G playing for England... unless he is injured or not fully recovered from injury. No player should be put through injections just so that he could play for any nation. The act itself is one of desperation on the part of the England manager. If you prefer players who are injured or recovering from injuries playing for your nation, why don't you get on Becks, Terry, Lamps, Hargreaves and Rooney's case as well? Ultimately we only want to see the BEST of the player, in this case Stevie G.

The subtitle says 'Just because Steven Gerrard might put his country ahead of Liverpool is no reason to moan.' I did not write that. In terms of all this about Gerrard's salary etc, I once again say, HE IS CHOOSING TO PLAY AND DID SO FOR LIVERPOOL WHEN THE INJURY WAS WORSE! Therefore all this rubbish about him being 'forced' to play is utter crap. With regards to Gerrard getting abuse from other fans, that is possibly the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard. Last time I checked, most opposition fans do not cheer for players just because they play for England. Ultimately, no one is forcing him to play. He wants to, so he will.

[quote]Liverpool have no qualms about Stevie G playing for England... unless he is injured or not fully recovered from injury. No player should be put through injections just so that he could play for any nation. The act itself is one of desperation on the part of the England manager. If you prefer players who are injured or recovering from injuries playing for your nation, why don't you get on Becks, Terry, Lamps, Hargreaves and Rooney's case as well? Ultimately we only want to see the BEST of the player, in this case Stevie G.[/quote] 1)He wants to play 2)The injury isn't as bad as any of the mentioned players 3)He played with the same injury for Liverpool 2 weeks ago. 4) To stress this one more time, HE WANTS TO PLAY.

He wants to, so he will...??? Who decides he should play? The player? Well, my grandfather wants to as well, will he be allowed?

[quote]The subtitle says 'Just because Steven Gerrard might put his country ahead of Liverpool is no reason to moan.' I did not write that. In terms of all this about Gerrard's salary etc, I once again say, HE IS CHOOSING TO PLAY AND DID SO FOR LIVERPOOL WHEN THE INJURY WAS WORSE! Therefore all this rubbish about him being 'forced' to play is utter crap. With regards to Gerrard getting abuse from other fans, that is possibly the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard. Last time I checked, most opposition fans do not cheer for players just because they play for England. Ultimately, no one is forcing him to play. He wants to, so he will.[/quote] So what if he wants to play though? He only wants to play because he is being put into a situation by McLaren and the stupid England fans/media. If this was Fabregas in the same situation, I really would be very interested to know your thought, very easy to say this when it's not one of your own players.

[quote][quote]Liverpool have no qualms about Stevie G playing for England... unless he is injured or not fully recovered from injury. No player should be put through injections just so that he could play for any nation. The act itself is one of desperation on the part of the England manager. If you prefer players who are injured or recovering from injuries playing for your nation, why don't you get on Becks, Terry, Lamps, Hargreaves and Rooney's case as well? Ultimately we only want to see the BEST of the player, in this case Stevie G.[/quote] 1)He wants to play 2)The injury isn't as bad as any of the mentioned players 3)He played with the same injury for Liverpool 2 weeks ago. 4) To stress this one more time, HE WANTS TO PLAY.[/quote] What does how bad the injury is have to do with it if he has to have an injection to see it through? Clearly it is an injury that should stop him playing if it requires and injection. He plays for Liverpool through the pain because we pay his wages. P.s. Starting your arti

steve mcclaren let him be

Fair comment to an extent, but if Fabregas wanted to play and could do so then fair play to him. Gerrard is a grown man, he has played on the injury before (a significant point) and can decide for himself what he wants to do. Not going to bother deconstructing the grandfather argument.

)He wants to play So does many others, he doesn't get to decide... how many times do you need to listen to understand? 2)The injury isn't as bad as any of the mentioned players How would you know? 3)He played with the same injury for Liverpool 2 weeks ago. Again, if he was injured and played and needed two weeks to recover, what are the chances he would recover in a shorter period of time without any long term effects?... And are you sure he has recovered enough and is able to perform to his abilities? We are talking about a professional player who is taking a risk because of a manager who cannot afford to lose a game. 4) To stress this one more time, HE WANTS TO PLAY. Stress all you want because it doesn't mean he should.