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by Oscar Alphara on 11 October 2007
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Nothing is simple when it comes to the English national side. You find a good strike partnership, and one of them breaks his foot. You seem to sort out the midfield, but in reality it was only a forced change, leaving the manager with a decision to make in the most important two positions on the park. Steven Gerrard has hit a rough patch the last few games, whereas Frank Lampard is only just returning to fitness and is bound to be a bit ring rusty.
These circumstances make a good case for Gareth Barry. The Aston Villa star has what the other two don't in match fitness and a natural left foot. Barry and Gerrard for the first half of the Estonia game seems a sensible option. If Gerrard has another quiet one like he has for Liverpool recently then he can be replaced by Lampard, who will get some game time and sharpness at home against (hopefully) inferior opposition.
Alternatively, McClaren could opt for Barry and Lampard for the first half, and see if that partnership bears any fruit. If Lamps starts blowing out of his hoop or just doesn't inspire, there is always the option of Gerrard on the bench.
Playing Gerrard and Lampard is not really an option open to the England manager as the two players have failed to convince time and time again. The only other alternative to this midfield menage-a-trois is to play all three, which I think is less likely than a Gerrard/Lampard combo.
Comments (38)
by Rafa The Gaffer on October 11, 2007
As both of them are match fit. But McClown will go with Lampard and Gerrard, because him and Sven are the only people in the 60,000,000 Brirish Isles who can't see that they can't play together.
by Karlos on October 11, 2007
Barry & Gerrard everytime, Lampard is so over rated at best he is nothing more than Gerrard's understudy!! As much as McClaren is an idiot and waste of space, he must realise that the team was actually quite well balanced last time.
by Gilesy on October 11, 2007
No dubt about it. Gerrard & Barry. You look @ all the best teams in England & Europe. They all play with one creative player & a more defensive minded player alongside. Fabregas has come on leaps & bounds, because Flamini gives him the freedom to go further up the pitch. Lampard isn't interested in doing the dirty work. He works great for Chelsea. Cech lumps it upto Drogba who chests it down to Lampard who has a dig. But England dont play thats type of football.
by the on October 11, 2007
just come from the fa website watching the englan trainning game part 2, and the beginning terry touches roonet face and he calls hima a poof , trust me i read lips
by Jasper on October 11, 2007
who ever is asking this question, must of missed englands last two games. Lamps n Gerrard may two of the best midfielders in the country but it dont mean they are the best for England. lets start picking the best team, not picking the best players....
by Lorenzo on October 11, 2007
It's simple, gerrard and barry played excellently in the last couple of england games, they're the people that lampard's got to dislodge. And the way he and the rest of his team-mates have been playing recently, he's not going to dislodge anybody. If he tries to squeeze all 3 in he'd be doing all of the players a disservice (plus probably losing us the chance to qualify). None of the 3 of them are the type of player who will be content to just sit back and play a holding role and none are especially good at it. the england team's at its best when it goes out there and takes the fight to the oposition, playing aggressive fast paced football, a holding role can be useful in the face of an onslaught but it's never going to be the way england should start a game, not against a big side and certainly not against a team like either estonia or russia.
by ingland on October 11, 2007
england are medicore team, mclaren was never a first choice manager, and the players know that he hasnt got the personalaty to pick the best team for england not the favoritse, i mean there are to many players in the england team that seem to be undropable like lampard/gerrad/ terry/rooney if they have a poor game whereas people like swp are easily dropped. we had this with sven and beckham
by kopknight on October 11, 2007
Gerrard and Barry!! what an easy question. Lets forget that Lampard exists and he is so overrated.
by pedantic al on October 11, 2007
[quote] must of missed [/quote] surely you mean "must have missed"? it's difficult for people to take you serious when you can't master the basics.
by tiger on October 11, 2007
Nobody asked for comments about the England team or the Manager. Lampard does not deserve a chance when barry must be given a run of games.Rooney needs to prove himself again!No team in the world my friend would not play gerrard!!
by Dee on October 11, 2007
Barry has played well alongside Gerrard, but what's happened to Carrick? He's a very solid choice next to EITHER Gerrard OR Lampard. Everyone knows Gerrard and Lampard can't play together, it was even better with Ledley King in the defensive midfield position!
by Hambrosia on October 11, 2007
Of those 3 it has to be Barry & Gerrard. Lampard should only be used as back up, for when Gerrard is not playing
by scouser on October 11, 2007
lampard not good enough
by chris on October 11, 2007
who ever is asking this question are thick look at the way barry and gerrard has played in last 3 games keep them together mclaren need to go and get a real manager like martin oniell lampard doesnt exist
by Even more pedantic on October 11, 2007
[quote][quote] must of missed [/quote] surely you mean "must have missed"? it's difficult for people to take you serious when you can't master the basics.[/quote] It's seriously and not serious
by Decepticon on October 11, 2007
S'quite clear that Lamps & Gerrard have struggled when paired together, and yet Barry & Gerrard looked excellent. Sorry Lampard, but that's just the way it is. I have no doubt that McLaren will bottle it and we will see Lamps & Gerrard again, though.
by Mr Moon on October 11, 2007
...after all, he's fat enough!
by Merr on October 11, 2007
England play poor with Lampard in the team, He should havee been dropped about 2 years ago, Although his form for Chelski is Ridiculous when he plays. Stop Shootin from 40 yards u bell end!
by hawkeye on October 11, 2007
Who ever plays, I wish your country all the best.I predict 3-0 in your favor.
[quote][quote][quote] must of missed [/quote] surely you mean "must have missed"? it's difficult for people to take you serious when you can't master the basics.[/quote] It's seriously and not serious[/quote] either will suffice my limited linguistic pen pal.
by gary on October 11, 2007
Sorry just joking...having Lampard in there would be terrible! :D BARRY AND GERRARD Full Stop End of Sentence
by Gaz on October 11, 2007
Gerrard will fight and create till the end. One of very few superstars who keeps his feet on the ground.Barry has no problem holding the ball and being gritty when required. Plus you can see what it means to him to be wearing the 3 lions. Lampard however, thinks he's to much of a star.He spends to much of his playing time being greedy, kicking from 30 yards trying to score a wonder goal that everyone will remember him for. Sadly all England fans will remember is he couldn't gel with the rest.
by GunnerPete on October 11, 2007
It has always been my opinion that we should play the lot. two years ago I was praying that Sven would pick Barry, and Arsene Would buy him. Now he is a star! My England team would play 4-3-3 in every game, SO :- Green Richards Ferdi Terry Cole / Shorey Lampard Gerrard Barry Rooney Heskey Owen Subs: Cole.J, Hargreaves, Robinson, Wright Phillips, King. Im glad to say the era of the Nevilles is over (thank God) and the era of a real football side is here or should be. Will Mclaren chicken out and pander to the Press as all the others have??????
by Shane Robinson on October 11, 2007
Has to be. Gerrard saving his best form for England anyway so someone may as well get some use out of him. We bloody aren't that's for sure
[quote]It has always been my opinion that we should play the lot. two years ago I was praying that Sven would pick Barry, and Arsene Would buy him. Now he is a star! My England team would play 4-3-3 in every game, SO :- Green Richards Ferdi Terry Cole / Shorey Lampard Gerrard Barry Rooney Heskey Owen Subs: Cole.J, Hargreaves, Robinson, Wright Phillips, King. Im glad to say the era of the Nevilles is over (thank God) and the era of a real football side is here or should be. Will Mclaren chicken out and pander to the Press as all the others have??????[/quote] However good Heskey may be, I don't think he'll get in the England team with a pot on his foot!!
by Murph on October 11, 2007
Gunner Pete, If we play the team you suggested we would have a distinct advantage as we would have 12 players on the pitch to start the game. I think the ref might notice though. As for this game, I'd go with the general feeling and go for Gerrerd and Barry although I don't think Lamps is a crap as people make out. When Michael Johnson's fit again though I wouldn't rule him out of a place.
I didn't realise you were saying Cole OR Shorey. Forget the first part of that post.
by Headmaster on October 11, 2007
must of missed surely you mean "must have missed"? it's difficult for people to take you serious when you can't master the basics. It's seriously and not serious either will suffice my limited linguistic pen pal. Barry and Gerrard or Lampard or A N Other of course. Silly question really. (If you have difficulty with spelling or comprehending English grammar, why not use Spell check? Then we can all get on with the football and not have to worry about what on earth you mean. - and no, you cannot use either my friend.)
[quote]must of missed surely you mean "must have missed"? it's difficult for people to take you serious when you can't master the basics. It's seriously and not serious either will suffice my limited linguistic pen pal. Barry and Gerrard or Lampard or A N Other of course. Silly question really. (If you have difficulty with spelling or comprehending English grammar, why not use Spell check? Then we can all get on with the football and not have to worry about what on earth you mean. - and no, you cannot use either my friend.)[/quote] you can use both my friend and the fact that you don't know this yet persist with your stance only shames you further.
by Bob on October 11, 2007
It has to be,no question about it.Gareth Barry is excellent for Aston Villa and has proved that for England in the last two games,he also plas with passion(unlike Lamprd)Barry has passion,steadyness,excellent passing skills thats just a few of his strenghts and brings balance to our midfield which showed in our two previous games where we crushed our opponents,IMO Barry was the main reason in them victorys.Gerrad is just a world class player,IMO best in the world.No question in it.Barry and Gerrard all the way!
by rob the royal on October 11, 2007
some of you guys have SERIOUS issues ;-) barry and gerrard for me too (if it continues to work well)
by Gascoigne on October 12, 2007
It would be an outright managerial scandal if Barry doesn't start these two games. Changing the formation to incorporate all the big names, will also prove a costly mistake. But then again McClaren must do that if he is to honour the starting XI membership cards passed out to Gerrard and Lampard in Erikssons days.
by Neil on October 12, 2007
It has to be a testiment to Barry taking his chances that he now appears to be the undroppable one, and all the discussion is who should partner him in midfield. For me has to be gerrard, old adage of if it aint broke dont fix it. Either way lets get behind them.
by Dave on October 13, 2007
Ok call me synical but here is whats going to happen, Mcclown can't leave Lumpoflard out again can he?? Cole is injured, barry will be played out of position at left back, so lumpmoflard can fumble around in the middle of the park. then cole will come back in team and things are back to normal with lumpoflard hargreves and carrick all ahead of barry. Unfortunatly it's the kind of rubbish we as england fans have come to expect now!!! The last 3 games have been the best performances of any england team since the 1 - 5 win over the krauts If it's not broken don't fix it
by tom on October 14, 2007
what happens when hargreaves gets back. who goes out?
by Dave on October 14, 2007
You leave Hargreaves out. Now he is an over rated player. The only reason people think otherwise is because he played OK in the worldcup compaired to the rest who played shit. He only ever looked average for Bayern too until his last season there. He has been brought into a man u side, to play in a position where carrick had been playing well enough anyway...not one of man u's best buys i must say. At the end of the day Barry and Gerrard should stay, if anything faulters Lampard will move back into that position. Either way Hargreaves shouldn't and will not play
by Jason Willis on October 15, 2007
which noddy wrote this. of course barry and gerrard. it actually works, unlike lampard and stevie. and Lamps is a overrated waste of space who from recent england performances doesnt deserve his place in the team - Oscar i suggest you stop writing if this is the most intellectual sporting question you can conjure!
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