Stuttering Liverpool show why Riise, Hyypia and Kuyt must go

Dirk Played well against arsenal, and had played well without scoring most of the season, Voronin has played badly in the last two games, Riise is in bad form, I agree but will come out of it and Hyypia is a good squad member, When Dan Agger is back he wont play, Sissokos recent form has alot to be desired for also, and if comments in the media are true he should be first out of the door. Anyway, if Alonso never went off I think we would of won, when Arbeloa came on we gave the ball away more and he did not track cesc's run. Its funny but we are better placed than we were last season at the same time, and are still unbeaten in the premier league, see where we are at christmas before committing to such ludicrous comments. Additionally If you look at alot of players that have left, alot were rafa signings he does not hang around trying to force a player to fit in, Morrientes, Gonzarlez, Josemi ...

i think liverpool did very well yest, if anything we should get rid of sissoko and riise, agger will be back soo, who i think is brillant, i think Crouch should see more football, he played excellent when he came on, all in all, liverpool will do well, any liverpool fan that gives up is not a real fan, and people shold not be so hard on Benitez, in the last 3 yeard, he won the Champions league and FA cup, worhtless cup too, thats not bad compared to Wenger, who has won nothing in the last 3 years!!!

I think Liverpool were lucky to get a draw against Arsenal, yes they fought for everything, but so do Bolton, and you'd never class them in the same bracket as Liverpool. Kuyt can play smart, I like it when he leads the line for Liverpool, he looks like Robbie Fowler of old, but there the similarities end - Kuyt just hasn't got the pace to threaten Premier League defenders, thats probably why he keeps dropping deep to pick the ball up. Voronin? well maybe he tries to hard. He gets into the positions to have a shot but then fluffs it - but he is strong and direct and gives you that option - although again, perhaps he plays too deep. Sissoko has never been a passer of the ball, his only job is to break up attacks, unfortunately that also includes Liverpool's attacks as going forward he's a hinderance rather than an asset. As already mentioned - Hyypia is a decent squad player and while Riise can lose focus occasionaly, he can also come up with a screamer. Still not convinced about Crouch, on hi

[quote]i think liverpool did very well yest, if anything we should get rid of sissoko and riise, agger will be back soo, who i think is brillant, i think Crouch should see more football, he played excellent when he came on, all in all, liverpool will do well, any liverpool fan that gives up is not a real fan, and people shold not be so hard on Benitez, in the last 3 yeard, he won the Champions league and FA cup, worhtless cup too, thats not bad compared to Wenger, who has won nothing in the last 3 years!!![/quote] Wenger is in the process of building another great team. It takes time, Ferguson has had his lean years too. Wenger has not only won a lot of trophies for Arsenal but he has also tranformed the club into one of the most exciting teams to watch. Before that they won trophies but were a hard working grind out the results team (not unlike what Liverpool seem to be heading for.)

Why call Wenger a whinger when after every game you don't win Benitez bitches and moans about everything. And as you mentioned about what most suppoters want to see, i presume it was not the rubbish long balls into the corner flags that Liverpoool were playing in the 1st and 2nd half (yes, the 1st half!!) from a manager who has spent £128 million!!! I think Liverpool are a great club, with amazing history and i have every respect for them (maybe a little less after last nights Longball-athon) but when supporters can't see beyond their rose tinted glasses, well....... Benitez needs to make sure he has a settled team, Wenger and Ferguson always keep settled teams, Mourinho also and they are the most successful managers in the Premierships history, its not difficult to understand....!

Hmmm...SAF didn't win anything for a 3-year period -- guess Rafa is better than him, too. When Rafa wins a few doubles, perhaps you can put him ahead of Wenger. Until then...this was supposed to be Rafa's year, wasn't it, not Arsenal's.

Would you like the England job, it seems as if you are an expert on football management, or not first of all fergi, and wenger rotate just as much as rafa and recently liverpool have had a relativly settled side alot of changes made recently have been forced upon the squad (Aurellio, Alonso, Agger, Pennant, Torres, Carragher, Arbeloa, Finnan have all been injured at some point) I think you are just reading into media spin, also as for watching football with rose tinted glasses, not all teams need to play total football to win liverpool got a result yesterday, and nearly won... If arsenal are typically week against long balls why not use them either. (traditionally direct teams like Bolton have caused Arsenal problems in the past). Now everyone is entitled to their opinion however I think alot of people should save it until the seasons at a close.

Good article I was there too, and we were outpassed by Arsenal. The Kop clapped them off. However, its not nice to hear fans venting fury on players such as Riise, and Hyypia. Both have made us raise the roof in the past. The truch is, Hyypia was too slow 3 seasons ago, and is caught unless the ball is in front of him. Riise was always defensively lax, but has lost his confidence to surge and cross or shoot. The passion is there - we need the ability to pass and move as the Gooners do. We too have talented youngsters being gleaned from all over the world. Will Rafa be given the time to bring them into the first team - that is the question.

i beleive risse hypia kuyt dont deserve this kind of abuse.Specialy risse and hypia...i still beleive we need another cover for carra and agger and finnan..but our real problem is at the wingers we need to break defences..Patience rafa is very stuborn but not stupid he will get everything right...

Kuyt seems to never stop running - he always puts in a great effort. That being said, he doesn't score & doesn't really set up goals. I'm a big Riise fan. That left foot can still come up w/ magical moments & he's missed a few goals by a couple inches this season. The wingers will look a lot better if Crouch plays and gets on the end of their crosses...

Kuyt or Crouch?? I think it is safe to say that neither of them are the fastest players in the squad at the moment. So who gets the starting spot while Torres is out or playing along side him. On the weekend game it demonstrated how important Crouch is to a successfull Liverpool. For a 6 foot Plus striker he has got better touch and ball control than a lot of not just the players in our squad but over the whole league. He does hold it up, which in turn creates more chances for himself and others around him. As for Kuyt? I thought he was going to be hit at the Kop. But..... Nothing has really come about. He does have his moments, but something tells me he should go just like Ciise. Bought for heaps but obviously never really lived up to his potential so Benitez chopped him. I definately think that the transfer window should start with a massive cleanout beggining with Riise, Hyypia, Kuyt, Sissoko (which i think is one of the most over rated players i have seen, especially for a midfeilder who can't sh

Actually i don't think its his problem. Its a tactical manner in which he is told to track back and play in a less preffered position. Before he came to liverpool he was an out and out striker and he exceled! I think Rafa should risk it more and put kuyt in a more advance role. Less tracking back and more in the box.

Kuyt was never an out and out striker he just scored lots of goals

I am beginning to think that Benitez cannot win the league for Liverpool. He's great tactical manager and can stop any team from defeating liverpool in once off games with enough time to prepare and psych up players. I think we have got the players to win the league but they arent in the right mental state to win it and I believe its all down to Benitez. I think if there is any part of the teams that needs improving, it is the defence- both Hyppia and Caragher need to go. They are both too slow and get too easily beaten.

[quote][quote]i think liverpool did very well yest, if anything we should get rid of sissoko and riise, agger will be back soo, who i think is brillant, i think Crouch should see more football, he played excellent when he came on, all in all, liverpool will do well, any liverpool fan that gives up is not a real fan, and people shold not be so hard on Benitez, in the last 3 yeard, he won the Champions league and FA cup, worhtless cup too, thats not bad compared to Wenger, who has won nothing in the last 3 years!!![/quote] Wenger is in the process of building another great team. It takes time, Ferguson has had his lean years too. Wenger has not only won a lot of trophies for Arsenal but he has also tranformed the club into one of the most exciting teams to watch. Before that they won trophies but were a hard working grind out the results team (not unlike what Liverpool seem to be heading for.)[/quote] The same can be said for Benitez but hes won trophies whilst building a team from all the shit Houllier left

We're all worried now, Rafa seems to be sticking by a game plan that does not work. He claims other managers change their sides and use as many players as he does. Not in the space of 2 weeks they don't. Would not like to see him go as we'd be back to square one but where are we heading? We are at a brick wall the last four years and seem no closer to breaching it. The key? Beating Arsenal, United & Chelsea at home to start. We aren't doing that and yet again we have failed to so far this season.

Change shirts and LFC could have been mistaken for an expensive version of Wimbeldon. We have many hard working players but we lack quality, lets face it, the players that have been applauded the most this season in the EPL are those who can dribble, pass and shoot. In the beginning of the season the team looked great and un-Rafa like, actually looked like their intention was to win the games. Rafa is like Riise, they have their moments (European champions and finalists with an average team), but thats it, it take more to win the premiership and that is what matters most! Don't boo Hyppia, he just getting up there, if Rafa asked me to play, I would, out of shape and no talent. Dirk, Hyppia, Riise, Aurelio, Momo & Harry, your time is up!

I see your point about Kuyt; he does seem to just continually run and run, but sometimes needs to curb the enthusiasm and just stick to what a striker should be doing. Dont get me wrong though; defending starts from the front and he is an advocate for that, but he seems to put most of his ability into that and should focus on the job at hand... Hyypia is WAY past it now, and we need a centre back in January quite badly. He is good for the Carling Cup and to give senior players a rest (Carra and Agger of course), but that is it. And Riise is MASSIVELY overrated; he played well under Houllier because the team had little to no instructions. Under Rafa however, everyone has a role and position so he looks terrible at either leftback or left midfield as he cant take on defenders, has a sketchy cross and when he gets over the half way line, his only inkling is to shoot all the time - lets flog him to Villa and let that Ensua kid come through, he looks a lot more effective Then we get to Crouch; he is an eni

I can't agree more with what you're writing. I just can't see what Kuyt does in the team... he's way to slow for the Premier League, and ineffective... he is working hard, yes, but as you say we have midfielders for that, what we need instead of Kuyt is a striker that is dangerous for the opponents! Kuyt is the least dangerous striker in PL! On the positive side, it was nice to see Alonso back on the team, amazing how much he adds to the team with his key passes... now I just hope he won't be out for to long again :(

I agree that all thoose players should be given the ax. except from Aurelio. he's been nothing but injured, but he is an excellent player. which he showed when in Valencia. But if he keeps getting injured, he might as well put his shoes on the shelf. but, for now, I think he should be given a chance