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by Gerry Horsfield on 12 November 2007
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by Deepak on November 12, 2007
Mr. Horsfield, Here's a response from a foreigner. When you started watching football, you probably would have never spoken to an Indian, let alone one with the gall to call your argument flawed. Anyway, I agree with you that the regional pride aspect is lost on local fans. That is a sorry result of the way the sport as transpired - into a business. I'm with you on that. But singling out Arsenal as offenders and praising Fergie's current crop is - pardon me for saying - ludicrous. I see but one United player from their youth academy starting nowadays (Brown or Neville, never both). The reason why Rooney, Carrick, Hargreaves and Ferdinand are playing at United is because they were start players at their previous clubs and United had the money to buy them. Newcastle wanted to buy Rooney, but Fergie preempted them. Arsene wanted Carrick, but Fergie preempted him. Arsenal cannot compete with the financial clout of United who have spent 30 million each on Rooney and Ferdinand and 20 on Carrick. Arsenal have
Arsenal have several young players coming through their youth system presently. English talent is over-priced. Fact. Arsenal cannot afford them. United can. Hence you see 4 English players in United's XI whose net worth is 80 million. Wenger's entire squad of 24 players will not be worth that much. Do the math.
by GUNNER on November 12, 2007
NO POINT ARGUING WITH PRICKS
by My-O on November 12, 2007
As an englishman I would love for the Arsenal team to be full of local lads however forcing teams to include local players simply plays into the hands of Manchester United and Chelsea who can outbid all other teams for the top ten players or so and then leave the second rate players to the rest of the teams. No wonder Old red nose Fergie thinks it is such a great idea as it would simply be another means of winning.
by Fab4 on November 12, 2007
"But its one big loss is that few teams - particularly the big ones - now truly represent the town or city in which their stadium stands." Remind me again where Arsenal play? That's right - London, one of the most multinational/multicultural cities on the planet. If anything, the number of foreign players at Arsenal means that it is a better representation of London than fielding 11 guys from Islington. "United team taking the field with at least four or five British players - virtually all produced by the Old Trafford youth scheme." - Yes, like Rooney, Ferdinand, Hargreaves, Carrick - all proud Mancunian lads!!?!?!?!!
by sidharth on November 12, 2007
I am of the same opinion as of deepak ...the reason being ,,,Arsenal run on a shoe string budget whn compared to Chelsea or MAn U for that matter .Secondly ,The way arsenal plays football ,might not be well suited for english players as arsenals game is more poetic than say how rooney would play ....so they dont blend ....As the english players if they are ready to reduce their fees and go all out in favour of english clubs .....lets see how many do ...
by pedro505 on November 12, 2007
Showing my age here but the first Arsenal team I ever saw was Jennings Rice Oleary Young Nelson Rix Price Brady Sunderland Stapleton MacDonald Only three Englishmen in the side. Liverpool if I remember in those days were fully of scots. No your argument is definitely racist. Your biggest objection seems to be the "unpronounceable names and foreign accents"
by James on November 12, 2007
The whole concept of the quota of UK players in English football teams. One, it is illegal, as it would contravene established EU law and be against the spirit of the EU and the Treaty of Rome. Should we have a policy then that investment bankers have to be British, this is another sector that has large numbers of non-British people working in London? Football is an occupation and should not be exempted from well-established EU laws because it is deemed "special" or an exception. To discriminate against employees or potential employees on the grounds of race or nationality is illegal. Secondly, it would distort the aleady crazy market for English players; already you have Darren Bent costing Spurs £16m while Robin Van Persie costs Arsenal £2.75m, but imagine if there was 4 or 5 clubs chasing Darren Bent to meet their quota for English players, regardless of whether they really wanted him? His transfer price would skyrocket as would his signing on fee and wages. Thirdly, at the extreme, you cou
by simon on November 12, 2007
Why not tkae this argument to the next level, for exmaple there is no point having a side with 4 englishmen then the rest is stuffed with the best French. I mean this would just be plain unfair. We should have proper quotas, such as 4 Englishmen 1 Scot 1 Welsh 1 ROI Any 3 from EEC 1 from Africa or USA or Australia Only then can we be sure that each team is evenly represented and gives a chance to all Internationals even the smaller countries. What you think Mr Blatter?
by gunner on November 12, 2007
I suppose the point of choosing Chel$ki and Manure as prime examples of Guardians of the English game is that they're both quite successful. No point in holding up Southend in that respect. But the argument is deeply flawed cos the fact is that the English players in those clubs have by and large been bought with excessive amounts of cash, something very few clubs can seriously afford. 30m for Rio, 30m for Rooney, 16m for Carrick, 21m for Wright-Phillips, 16m for Hargreaves. Who can afford that? Walcott cost 12m, that is a lot of money for raw potential. Fact is, the rules governing youth recruitment means the top clubs will never be able to grow large crops of English talent. You have to buy them from other clubs at extortionate rates. So if it means costing 100m to keep a club English, then come on, who on Earth can afford to be so 'noble'?
by Eddy on November 12, 2007
Give Arsene £5o million and he would buy Ferdinand and Carrick,as it is we have to suffer Fabrigas and Toure who cost us a whopping £1 million and are arguabl(especailly in Fabrigas'case better players).To even give Mr Ferguson's arguement any airspace is ignoring the blatant fact that he has been unable to unearth cheap talent(whether from the U.K or Africa)and is patently jealous of the attention and praise Arsene gets doing so.We cannot all operate in a World wher medoicre players can be bought for over the top prices but the club just carries on operating as normal.The net result of a limit on foreign players would be a deteriation in the standard of football ie who would you rather watch Anderson or Fletcher or Fabrigas or Parlour?The idea that somehow English football would somehow benefit from this limit on foreign players is completely ludicrous as I well remember the days when Arsenal fielded 10 Englishmen including Selley and Hillier and I wouldn't pay to watch that dross again,and if anyone thinks
by Alex on November 12, 2007
The argument is summed up by your praise of Man U and Chelsea having so many English players. They are the only ones that can afford good ones. van Persie (2m) or Bent (16m) anyone?
by Trennon on November 12, 2007
This isnt just about England you tosser!!!! What about Belarus, Iceland, Cameroon, Senegal, Mexico, Paru, Finland, Serbia Montenegro and every other insignificant country that relies on developing their own national team with the VITAL experience their greatest stars get from top EU leagues. Will a top side like Arsenal even look at a player like Alex Hleb with that kind of limitation? NO! The WC would consist of 6 teams that can win it. Its a stupid idea and to buy into it in any way, even as a wind up is stupid. A law like this will end the global audience that La Liga and the premiership enjoy!
by Ole Gunner on November 12, 2007
The cost issue is what it boils down to. Benni Mccarthy cost Blackburn £2 million and scored 23 goals. Compare to Darren Bent at £16 Million. You have to be an irresponsible manager not to buy a better striker at a tenth of the price of a worse one. You really have to be. The problem is that the ship has already sailed. Are you going to deport all the foreign players? If Fergie is right, then Cristiano Ronaldo, Owen Hargrieves (he's Canadian) Tevez should warm up for deportation.
by Mikjos on November 12, 2007
It actually takes less time to get from the Emirates Stadium to Thierry Henry's home town that to get to Liam Brady's home town - or even to John Radford's home town, once the St Pancras Eurostar terminal opens. As Fab4 says, London is a multinational city and I don't think most fans care where the players come from as long as they show the right attitude and commitment to the club.
by ray on November 12, 2007
What difference does it make where there from? It should be about nationality it should be about ability and if playing foreigners increases the standard of the league then that will HELP the national team as the English players that do make it through will be of a better standard...... I'd rather watch the best players in the world and not just the English ones
by TCW on November 12, 2007
If there is a limit on foreign players, then it should go in hand with salary cap to limit the size of football club to even out the field. English players get paid at astronomical values. They should limit it to say 50k GBP per week per player for their top 11 players. If it is for the good of english national teams, I think the english players should be more than happy to take a pay cut to support it.
by frichie on November 12, 2007
Some points - London is certainly does not belong to the English anymore. Just ride on the tube and try see how many english accents you hear, its becoming the minority. - Arsenal and all football clubs support isnt measured by the towns populace, Thank god, FC's have chinese websites, they go travelling around the world to meet their supporters, and for every 1 person in the stand there is another thousand watching it on tv somewhere! I certainly didnt want to be watching some meadiocre english players playing for arsenal when i was in South Africa. Fergie, can go bolt, thankfully his time is nearing the end, he has a dig at Arsenal, but who has he got coming through to replace is GOLDEN boys, Neville, Giggs, Scholes etal. Nani, Ronadlo, Anderson, who do you think he is going to replace ferdinand with when he goes, 40 million for Micah Richards, or another Vidic??? The world has changed, boundaries are disintegrating, the sooner you accept the sooner you will be able to get on with your life and en
by mira on November 12, 2007
Foreigner fans don't not care about English national team much. They just want to see the best. If EPL want to be the highest level among the leagues then you should crap this idea. Maybe instead of mourning of English national team, you should feel privileged that the best league is played at your country and don't try to spoil it.
by Big Johan on November 12, 2007
Man U have been better known in recent years for fielding massively overpriced purchases than products of their youth squad, while Arsenal's team has featured notable products of the youth teams - admittedly most of them foreigners attracted to the club aged 16 or so, but developed by Arsenal nevertheless - and i note that the recent England Junior World Cup team featured three Arsenal youth team players vs one from Man U
It's amazing that Ferguson is getting a pass for filling his team with foreigners too. Let's see how many English players he will have to replace Scholes, Ferdinand and Neville. He's almost exclusively buying foreign now and he feels he has the stones to call out Wenger.
by Jack Fleming on November 12, 2007
Do you honestly believe that because a player happens to have darker skin or a foreign name i, as an Englishman am unable to identify with them? What a sad state of affairs that would be. Do you believe I would prefer to see Sidwell in our team over Fabregas because his passport happens to be the same colour as mine. I'd like to see more English players, but I'd really like to see English academies capable of competing with the talent produced in the rest of the world. Your argument is based on 1950's attitudes and values, and your argument is anachronistic and short-sighted. Think of it this way, the seventies eighties and early nineties saw the English league flooded with Sub-standard English players, reducing the overall quality and forcing the good English lads abroard. Is that what you would like? A rubbish team who can atleast claim to have eleven white faces???
by jjjjjj on November 12, 2007
football is not only a game these days but a business, and at the top of the tree in football business is arsene wengwer! why spend over 40 odd million quid on Carrick and Hargreaves? hargreaves is german/canadian anyway! Wenger spent about 10p on putting a foreign side together that in years to come will probably be dominant in the English Premier league! Good Business? i think so! Arsenal have a fine crop of English youth players coming through constantly, but lets face it, its not because Wenger would rather have foreign players, its because they're better quality than the English one's that are coming through, SIMPLE AS THAT! once giggs, neville, ferdinand and scholes all retire in a couple of years they will be replaced by foreigners, I garuantee that, they will always have a couple of token English boys in the Team, but look at their price tags? not for their quality, but becuase they're English, its a disgrace. Also, Man Utd haven't had any decent British boys come through their youth sytem in YEARS!
by SS on November 12, 2007
Is this how things are across the pond? I understand being patriotic but you have to have some serious issues to make comments like those. Forget that the comments are ignorant and elitist, what about the simple notion of being of fan of the game? Who cares who is out there as long as the quality of the sport is at its highest level. Isn't that what matters most? Not what color or nationality are out there but who makes the game the most exciting. I believe the mix of English and "foreign" players is what has made the EPL so incredible to watch. You get the hard-nosed mentality of the English player mixed with the smooth, stylish and fast-paced approach from the foreign players, and I see a league that takes the best from both of those and makes for one hell of an exciting syle. Don't hold your breath on that quota!
by Ray on November 12, 2007
Let's start it off by saying that this article is written by a manure. Even Mr Sepp is a manure. Poor arsene is such a genius that that england's sub standard international performance should be blamed on arsenal. Those sub performance are firstly due to the unwillingness of english players to play abroad. I mean, where french, italian, spanish players have left deep impression on the premiership. The number of english players who have impacted other leagues is zilch. Secondly, the english fa should allow the current system to stand and pathetically if the wants to improve the national team then we should see an england u-21 team participating in the premiership and set the benchmark against the top teams. From my perspective, i think by implementing quotas for the benefit of one's supported club and just because the one is holding a top position in soccer and he can decide anything is very corruptive.
by Gregory on November 12, 2007
I want to see football played to the highest level possible level, I could care less about international football. I mean just look at the last world cup, who wants to watch mediocre football just to please the few traditionalists who feel hard done by. Manchester United havent produced a top class British player since the so-called golden generation and bit by bit those players are being replaced by FORIEGN players the main thing is that through these changes you know that Man Utd will keep there footballing ethos of fast attacking football. Look at my team Arsenal, that team has personality and a footballing phylosiphy to be proud of, of course I feel I can identify with these players, as an Arsenal fan I see these players grow with Arsenal grow bonds it doesnt matter to me that they are not british. If people think that limiting the amount of foriegn players will benefit the national team, then imo they are wrong- England have won only one major trophy- 1966. It seems like the English press ar
by Arsenal fan on November 12, 2007
What you are actually saying is Arsenal should field players who are not as good as other players because of the passport they carry. How can you say the players have no connection with the club they play for. When they lose they get most of the flack, when they win they get praised. They play for the damn club, how much more connected can you get. This article you wrote is full of prejuduice(spll). If its not racist, why do you have to defend it.
by manscum-bashing goona on November 12, 2007
Everyone is saying how only manscum can afford to shell out huges sums for english talent .. but wait a minute: manscum are more or less debt-ridden and barely earn enough revenue to service their debts ... we all wait in prayer that this cheating/bullying/(even) racist team suffers a meltdown and drops down to league=2/conference ... Its hard to see them even being able to continue paying 20-30m for english players ... as per blatter, he is just trying to deflect attention from the corruption in his organisation ,, or perhaps, even trying to create opportunities for clubs around the world to 'make special please' to him to stop the blackmail ...
by goonatastic on November 12, 2007
The EPL generates most of its revenue from TV rights abroad (I believe) .. do you think this cash cow that generates so much money for clubs these days, will continue if quotas are brought in ? Fergie is a wanker that should never be addressed as sir .. and blatter is even a bigger joke.
by Buddy C on November 12, 2007
English football has fallen behind. Why don't more English players go to play in Spain or Italy or even Africa for that matter? Because they are over priced and under talented. The same reason you don't see many at Arsenal. The ones who were at Arsenal and left believed they were too good for the reserves even though there were better players in front of them. I hate to say it, but we need more players like Ashley Cole who waited for his chance to force Sylvinho out the door, and less of the prima-donas who think too much of themselves (like Ashley at the end of his Arsenal days). The amount of foreign players doesn't have any effect on the national team. Our national team is just not very good at the best of times. What have we won since 1966? Even through the "Glory years" as you say, how good were England? As good as they are today. No different. Limiting foreign players will not make England (or any other country) better. It will only bring the level of the Premiership down to a level closer to the Mace
by old gooner on November 12, 2007
Ray Gooner mentined this on one of the Arsenal blogs: All English players that Wenger has signed from other clubs: Matthew Upson (Luton) Lee Canoville (Millwall) Jermaine Pennant (Notts County) Sol Campbell (Tottenham) Richard Wright (Ipswich) Francis Jeffers (Everton) Theo Walcott (Southampton) Joe O’Cearuill (Watford) All Arsenal Reserves or Youth Players from the academy that Wenger has used in the First Team: Ashley Cole Stephen Hughes Justin Hoyte Stuart Taylor Paolo Vernazza Scott Marshall Paul Shaw David Bentley Kerrea Gilbert Ryan Smith Graham Stack Patrick Cregg Rhys Weston Graham Barrett John Halls Jerome Thomas Matthew Connolly Mark Randall Gavin McGowan Jason Crowe Tommy Black Kieran Gibbs Henri Lansbury Matthew Rose Isaiah Rankin Michael Black Julian Gray Rohan Ricketts Ryan Garry John Spicer If you take the players that still play and make a starting 11 from these it would be a pretty good team actually! For example: Richard Wright - Kerrea Gilbert
This article sums up the idocy of blatter: http://www.sportingo.com/football/septic_blat ter_continues_infect_world/1001,5281
by PG on November 12, 2007
The author is clearly living in a time warp. Racist, Xenophobic etc are some adjectives that comes to mind. Good football has to win over senseless patriotism. I think the author should go and visit Arsenal's under 15 games. He would realise that Arsenal is doing more to bring the overall quality of English players by honing them with right technique than any other team. But I doubt it will change the mind of this xenophobe, racist author who seems smug in their ignorance.
by Jerome on November 12, 2007
this is a total contradiction to what fifa stand for,dont they want to kick racism outta football,not bring it back...as the world stands today globalisaton is occuring we are not individual nations but rather a global community...even if the niumbers were limited england would still lose in international competitions because alll the quota would do is allow mediocre players a chance to play
by sue on November 12, 2007
Probably written by plastic manc from London....say no more. Not worthy of an answer!
by John on November 12, 2007
We need to make 2 buys in the january widow and only 2. 1. Karim Benzema - Striker 2. Hatem Ben arfa - Left sided winger. these guys look the absolute dogs and will go a far way in improving the squad due to there creativeness.
by LondonGooner on November 12, 2007
....of that we can have no doubt! Bigoted, biased and very rose tinted. Not worth trying to convince a narrow minded fool about where he's gone wrong when he doesn't have the intellect or knowledge of football to realise his argument is fundamentally flawed...........yawn!
by abdi on November 12, 2007
Blatter is a crook he paid $100.000 to the Somalian FA to buy their votes i wonder how he is still in office, this man belongs to her majesty prisons. crook is always a crook he wants english clubs to lay a bit of the cash, and what can you say about Fergie he is the worst loser in the leage, he spends £54 million on players and still complains what a sore loser. Wenger is world class coach who never wants to spend 20 million on likes of Carrick who hadly can control the ball. and about limiting the foreingners well it will never happen, this leage is a world leage nowadays and the revenue comes from Asia and Africa so forget about that one mate.
by Amit on November 12, 2007
If an English league should contain English players, why should we stop there?! We should have English owners (so there is no conflict of interest, e.g. Abramovich (Russia) and England) so that there is an English backbone throughout the club with English Values; and ultimately it would be benefiting the English economy. Either the manager or assistant manager should be English (surely there's a problem with a lack of GOOD English managers?!?!?!) N.B: By English, I do not mean British.
by TemaGooner on November 12, 2007
I live in Africa and pay for cable TV so that I can see the lovely soccer played by teams such as Arsenal in the EPL. If quotas were introduced, I don't believe I will continue to shell out enormous amouns to my cable TV company, to watch Championship or League 1 level matches. I think a lot of football fans in the Africa, Asia and other continents other than Europe are contributing to the huge amounts paid to the EPL clubs for TV rights and this will reduce and the teams suffer if any quotas are introduced. And the big times in the EPL will always have the best English players and the rest will have to settle for the mediocre ones. Beware of the consequences of this stupid idea.
by Gooner on November 12, 2007
this article is verging on racist. I think the true reason why the english player are genarally so rubbish is that our philosophy of football rotates around kickin opponents about the park as opposed to gettin down and playin good football..forcing arwsene wenger or rafa benitez to play all english players wont improve the quality of english players..no matter what, they will remain mediocre..moreover how many successful exports have we had.all the best players from other nations are plyin their trade oncountries different fropm theirs and their national teams benefit as a result. Also if you so badly want to see teams full of ennglishmen..its called League 1..now tell me..would you like to see that standard of football played in the premiership..didnt think so!!If indeed your arguin for manchester united i would like to know how many english players have actually come through their academy that make the england team at present..beckham (past his sell by date), neville(who cant regain hisplace from richards)
by shaun on November 12, 2007
This is one of the most bad article i have ever who cares about the 1950's this is the 21st century. This article promotes racism. Imagine what would happen if arsenal have sidwell instead of fabragas it just doesnt make sense. You say united have 4 or five home grown players name 4 of em. WHAT there is only 2 neville and brown one of whom is old and one of whom cannot get into the national team. United best players bar rooney and ferdinand(everton and WHU) are foring ronaldo,evra,vidic,giggs, tevez?????? SO SHUT IT AND LEAVE ARSENAL ALONE
by Joel Cairo on November 12, 2007
Clearly, the first thing to do is require English (not Scots) management at clubs like Manchester United. Then England can build a pool of top-level managers who can coach on an international stage, so that the overpriced top-level English players can get top-level management. Will SAF be the first to step down? Its such a silly silly argument, and it is so "little England" in scope -- don't have your best play the best from elsewhere...hold them back by playing them against their lessers. Really smart.
by sean on November 12, 2007
Money,cash,loot,wonga?what ever you want to call it?Man Utd's four English buy's have cost them £94million!AW has only spent £190million in eleven years!
by samik on November 12, 2007
Gerrard is class. Richards looks impressive also. Rooney. How many world class players are there, yet alone English ones? A top premiership team, looking to do well in the champion's league needs world class players. If they must all be from England then how well do you think they'll do? From 4 teams to 2 teams in a hurry! This might actually be good for the England team since players will be fresher and not burnt out :)
by Andrew on November 12, 2007
I cannot seriously believe what im reading here.. How can u mugs rake sh** on Fergie for promoting the english and local lads? And those of u who says that there are only two homegrown players in the side!? What about the two legends Scholes and giggsy? the latter might not be english, but he joined the club aged 11, growing in the youth system. O'shea's also homegrown, plus eagles, simmo, and the evans are coming through!!! U london mugs can't see further than ya own f***ing belly, whilst fergie looks at the bigger picture.! How can u be satisfied with a whole bunch of foreigners in the side?! Only Theo(overrated) walcott is rarely in the side. I'd hate my club for that. And whilst u finally pay for a player, u pay 18 mill£ for eduardo, when u could've gotten a decent english man, Defoe or Bent for that price or less? I don't understand ya manager.. doesn't see the importance of Englishmen.. And don't mock Fergie for buying players u couldn't afford.. Is he supposed to let them go for u mugs? Please, g
by Kevin Gooner on November 13, 2007
English players have a huge advantage over foreign players - they can play against the best in the world without having to leave their homes - then because of all the pro-English player hype they end up being paid more than the the superior foreign players. To suggest that too many foreign players hurts the English game is ridiculous - the English national team is about the same today as it has always been - good but not great - top 10 not top 5
by Deepak on November 13, 2007
Andrew buddy....8.5 million is more like it....
by Yakub Bolakale Rasaq on November 13, 2007
The English Foot ball is better than any other ones, especially Machester United club
by quophi on November 13, 2007
key words of this article: XENOPHOBIA RACISM JEALOUSY overall grade...F! u need to rewrite this article to show maturity, sir. this is a global village no segregation.
by Gonuts McDie on November 13, 2007
If you're good enough to get scouted, signed, and earn a place in the squad, then it doesn't matter where you're from. As such I think the number of foreign players in the EPL says more about a lack of talent-fostering at grass roots level in England. Best player gets the squad number. Simple as.
by kofi on November 13, 2007
which english player kept gael clichy on the arsenal bench? if any english player is good enough, he will have a position in the arsenal squad! one develops his talent from competing with the best not by protocol...............by the way out of the starting XI and i mean starting XI of manU? somebody tell me if half of the squad are english! fergurson presents a squad of TEVEZ, VIDIC, EVRA, ANDERSON, C. RONALDO, GIGGS, VAN DER SAAR, LUIS SAHA and cry out loud that he is playing an english squad when they dont make up even half of the starting XI!!! why is everyone picking on arsenal alone? is it the only club in the EPL???? is it the only team which can develop english players? if each the rest of the 19 teams in the EPL develop one world class player like cashely, the english team can boast of a great squad with reserves. END OF DISCUSSION!!
by Rehan Ashraf on November 13, 2007
Of course Gerry - YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON. The way Arsenal should be restricted to a set number of foreigners is the same as me getting a promotion over a foreign colleague based on my passport. I could be as good as shit at my job while my colleague gets results, but wait....WHOOOP DE DOOO.....I DESERVE A F***ING PROMOTION BECAUSE I'M BRITISH!!! As Arsene has already said, good foreigners bringing results to top teams make the youngsters try harder and in turn increases competition, making the England side stronger. I think you will come to regret your remarks in a few years time when the current English youngsters start getting into the Arsenal first team. By the way, most of United's budget has been blown on foreign players, while their production line has dried up. Am I missing something?!
by freddy adu on November 13, 2007
fergie calls his current crop of players as the best he has ever managed!! and half of them are not english!! does it mean that the 'so called' treble winning squad which had more englishmen were not good enough as his foreign dominated team now??? hmmmm! double standards!
is giggs english???? take ur time and write sometime with research!
by korodon on November 14, 2007
so u agree that englishmen have a divine right to starting berths? great! i love ur style! so much for meritocracy...
by looneygooner on November 15, 2007
You need to take your tablets and go and lie down in the nursing home, what a load of old tosh,ManUSA have frequently bought the premiership and didn't like it when Chelsea had more spending money. We moan at Chelsea, but ManUSA have been buying over-priced English players for seasons. Let's see whether Fergie could have done as good as job as Wenger with the same resources. Don't quote the treble as you had players you brought in to help.
by Always late on November 23, 2007
oh, man, I wished I'd seen this the other week. There's been enough on here about the utter cobblers contentions posited by the author, but to all you Surrey/Kent Man Utd supporters, tell us how many Academy players came through in to the first team after the Giggs/Schole/Beckham etc generation? If all you can point to now is O'Shea, you're really shouldn't start throwing stones. Eagles? Greening? May? Crap to a man. You know that you go out and spend on players, so don't try and take the moral highground, you bunch of sanctimonious hypocrites. All your doing is increasing your debt and the Glazers are going to shaft you sideways.
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