I've not got much to say about this article other than to question if it was actualy written by a football fan? Anyone involved in football (as a fan) would know that the Wigan v West Ham game was played just hours after the ruling on Tevez. Not only did the ruling (the wrong one!) give West Ham a MASSIVE boost, it deflated their relegation rivals (including us in the game the following day) and to make it all the more laughable Tevez was allowed to play in the game into the bargain, he was outstanding too!! Only West Ham could have swung that one in their favour. To call a clubs fans "sub-standard" after one match played in bizarre circumstances is laughable, pretty much like the other defamatory remarks made about the club which are made with little foundation or research. It seems to me like the "fans" of the bigger clubs in the Premier League look down on the fans of the smaller clubs as though they're Lord of the Manor, when in fact they probably don't know what being a true football fans is - tr

i dont understand the abuse wigan recieve from rival clubs - you judged the club on one game. if you had turned up to a different game(for example wigan vs spurs - that ended 3-3) you would have had a different idea of the club. to say they should 'go back to where they belong' is ridiculous - why do wigan not belong in the premiership? because you dont like the team? the manager? the fans? well the league doesnt lie and over the past two seasons we have done enough to stay in this division. and if were talking about 'belonging' - i feel that spurs dont belong, and never will belong, in the champions league, due to their "sub-standard fans, players and imbecile of a board"

Couldn't agree more Ad. Tottenham fans should be ashamed of the way their club is run. Their Chairman and board are a disgrace. Wigan, on the other hand, are run by a small but dedicated staff that have only the best interests of the club at heart. In fairness the author of this article doesn't seem to know much and seems to base his articles on little or no fact. He also seems to forget that Tottenham too aren't out of the woods and are still in relegation trouble averaging less than a point per game - a fine achievement!

This is the worst written article i have ever seen. So biased and full of rubbish. It doesn't deserve a longer reply.

i kinda get the feeling that the above responses were by the same person using different names, and the times of the post sort of confirm it.....sad,sad,sad.

i kinda get the feeling that the above responses were by the same person using different names, and the times of the post sort of confirm it.....sad,sad,sad.

Sounds like you don't like the response your article is getting, Mr Lara? If you don't like it don't dish it out in the first place.

Doesn't deserve a longer response

wrong mate, i'm just another anonymous member of the public but you've just confirmed everything i thought by sitting and waiting for a response to your post. you must really love wigan, good on you

you've just posted that DJ comment and confirmed 100% that you're a jobless sad case from wigan. little tip mate if you are going to attempt this sort of sad behaviour then at least try making the poster sound different and don't use the same response as used 10 mins ago. haha i bet you still think i'm the author aswell , what a tit!!

Wigan fans are used to being slagged off, nothing new. What happened to romance in football, are the little guys not allowed a moment in the 'promised land', should it be reserved for the big boys? Why not have just have a European Superleague with the big boys of Uts, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelseas, leave the rest to the medicrity of the Premier League.

Brian, (or should I call you David?) you article was designed to increase the hits to this website and spark a debate when all it's done is spark people off talking about how bad and lacking in facts the article actually is rather than discuss the points made in the article. You must be proud of this quite frankly disastrous attempt at being a journalist. As for loving Wigan, yes indeed I do. Unlike yourself I care for my club and I don't think that just because I support 'mighty' Tottenham Hotspur (trying to remember the last time they won anything that makes them as mighty as their fans think they are!!) I have a divine right to look down at everyone else as though they're worse off, like you seem to do dear fella!

but your behaviour has got my interest. you must be really pissed off with the author to post comments in several different names in the hope of making it look like his article was causing public outrage when in actual fact you're the only one posting, well apart from me and i only posted because i worked out what you were up to after reading the others. you need to add a bit of imagination to it, don't just change the name, change the sentiment of the post and try adding the odd club badge......sh**!! i can't believe i'm now giving you tips, lol it's been a slow day

I've posted as no one except my actual name and your post as me at 15:49 does nothing to try to prove your point unfortunately, David. Now that you've resorted to claiming that the people posting on here are all the same person it seems you're deflecting attention away from the fact that your article is somewhat farcical, are you not?

HAHAHAHAHAHA. this is all getting far too pantomime for me but still.....it's funny

...and your use of capital letters in your reply to your own post pretty much proves that you are upset at the fact you've been busted as being the author and yet again you're trying to take attention away from your article. Does your mummy know you're on here? Quick - better head off and be a good little boy before mummy catches you on a message board!!

listen mate seriously, i'm not the author! i'm just a guy from leeds having a slow day at work and who is now on the verge of wetting himself because of your indignation. also stop with the pretence, i know for a fact now that it was you who wrote all the posts above(barring mine obviously), you it and i know so why keep the lie going? you'll only damage your own self esteem. but hey thanks anyway for putting a smile on my face this afternoon, i almost want to support you in your quest for a showdown with the articles author. take it easy you master of disguise you!

Hey David, if you're so clever and write such brilliant articles why not take a look at the IP addresses of the posts made in repsonse to your article? What - mine doesn't match anyone elses? Well blow me down!! What? Your IP matches a post made under the name Stu at 15:49? Now I really am surprised! Hey little keyboard warrior, head off now with your tail between your legs and wait for mummy to put the tea out (and dream of actually having a job and being bored at work!!)

[quote]...and your use of capital letters in your reply to your own post pretty much proves that you are upset at the fact you've been busted as being the author and yet again you're trying to take attention away from your article. Does your mummy know you're on here? Quick - better head off and be a good little boy before mummy catches you on a message board!![/quote]i had a bit of sympathy for you b4 but not now. right for a start your behaviour indicates that you are either a child or a man with a slight retardation of his mind. secondly YOU ARE FOOLING NO ONE WITH THE WHOLE PUBLIC INDIGNATION ACT, GIVE IT UP!! and lastly if i was an author for sportingo(which i'm not!!!) i wouldn't choose to write about wigan, no disrespect, they just don't interest me. now stu for your own benefit, give it up son.

Unfortunately matey it's everyone else that has lost the sympathy they may (or may not) have for you. Not only did you acuse me of posting under various names (I've got two businesses to run, like I have time for that!) but you then replied to my own post at 15:49 under my name. It really is a long afternoon for you, isn't it?

[quote]Hey David, if you're so clever and write such brilliant articles why not take a look at the IP addresses of the posts made in repsonse to your article? What - mine doesn't match anyone elses? Well blow me down!! What? Your IP matches a post made under the name Stu at 15:49? Now I really am surprised! Hey little keyboard warrior, head off now with your tail between your legs and wait for mummy to put the tea out (and dream of actually having a job and being bored at work!!)[/quote] what planet are you on you idiot??? i've told you about 5 times now i'm not the author, what else can i do but give you my address, N.I.number and my mother's maiden name. listen stu, i know you must feel a bit silly now but to keep on with this charade is absolute insanity, give it up mate

...of what exactly?

The person who slags wigan athletic off sounds like a bitter and twisted fan. Go back to watching cricket or bowls ...softy

[quote]Unfortunately matey it's everyone else that has lost the sympathy they may (or may not) have for you. Not only did you acuse me of posting under various names (I've got two businesses to run, like I have time for that!) but you then replied to my own post at 15:49 under my name. It really is a long afternoon for you, isn't it?[/quote] what are you on?, mescaline? right mate i'm a 30yrold mortgage adviser from leeds, with a wife and 5yrold daughtar who happened across this article while browsing the net in some dead time, choose to believe it or not that's the truth. you however are still going on with this whole lie about not posting yet you've left a trail of latent clues all over the place(which you would notice if you were anywhere near intelligent). i don't believe you have any business, i think you're probably some kid with nothing better to do, hence you find this and post various different comments and then wait for a response

I don't really think that pretending to be someone else is going to divert attention from the above. You're the only one that thinks i've posted as different people (what fun that must be!) when quite frankly i've got better things to do with my time. Also, how come you only reply to 2 posts back?! My buisnesses are none of your business so no matter who you are. I too stumbled across this rather shameful article this afternoon and, whether you're the author or not, if all you can say is "you're posting as different people" and have nothing else constructive to say then I suggest you find something better to do with your time. Posting as me to prove your own false point did nothing to help what you're trying to say.

then when someone does you jump straight to the wrong conclussion. i think you're now starting to realise your mistake which is why there's been a bit of back tracking in your last few posts, oh just out of interest what business' is it you have? lol. listen mate i hope you get your show down i really do and i respect the fact that you feel strongly about your club but ffs what you've done today is pretty creepy mate and really, really sad i suggest next time someone criticises your club learn to let it go, as responding in the way you have only gives them credence. listen stu, try relaxing more mate, life can be hard but don't let it drive you to madness. over and out!!

stop trying to get the last word, you've been found out now shuffle back to wherever it is you inhabit. oh and not too budy to sit replying to me for 45mins eh? give it up mate!! you're fooling no one, even my 5 yrold would have busted you by now.

Line after line of capital letters and apostrophes in your posts and i'm the one that's being driven to madness, of course! The only evidence of backtracking above has come from you, evidently. Of course, posting my URL's on a football fans message board is very advisable! If you were half as intelligent as you claim to be then you too would have your own business (or businesses) to boast about, but the chances of that happening seem pretty slim, unfortunately.

mate seriously, it's time to put the jackanory book down now, you can't lie to yourself forever and once i've gone your only going to feel stupid and alone.

Now you've been put in your place and made to feel like I minion I don't really see the point of carrying this on any further from your point of view? Your imagination doesn't run very far does it, stealing child references from my posts above? Ah well, onwards and upwards eh! Good looking with the mortgage advising!!!!!!

Whoever had written this article has obviously got it in for Wigan. Wigan Athletic have been in the premiership for three seasons now on merit, nuff said. The club was only elected into the league in 1978 so i think they're doing pretty well. Not a bad fanbase seing as you could nearly squeeze the ENTIRE population of wigan into old trafford and 99% are actually from wigan

[quote]Now you've been put in your place and made to feel like I minion I don't really see the point of carrying this on any further from your point of view? Your imagination doesn't run very far does it, stealing child references from my posts above? Ah well, onwards and upwards eh! Good looking with the mortgage advising!!!!!![/quote]mate you can try to convince yourself that you've won some sort of victory here today but like i say you can't lie to yourself. you sat there posting in different names waiting for a response, i spotted what you were up to and shamed you, deal with it. as for your mortgage adviser quip, do you even know how much a mortgage adviser earns in a year? i suggest you don't, as you would know it out strips what small business owners bring home. not that it matters as you don't have a business or a job and if you had any intelligence at all you'd have seen the latent trail you left. bye now stu, don't get lonley

That articles a pearler! Dont give up the day job mate, unless you want to write for the sun. I hear they're still looking for writers without talent.

A rare Wigan victory this season! I know quite a lot about mortgage 'advisers' to the point where I no longer use them as they're are generally out to rip people off. If you are one (unlikely!) then that puts you in an even lesser bracket than I had you in previously! Shambolic mortgages recommended to me aside, I recently provided a package of services to a mortgage 'adviser' who was starting up on his own. He went on to do a runner with everything I had provided and not pay for what I billed him for. Those two issues alone sum up your sort really, along with your posts above! If he was earning a decent wage he'd have paid for that but, oh no, he can't have been! Oh and, by the way, your spelling isn't up to much. I suggest if you want to convince people of your position you need to go back to school and start again on that front!! Mortgage adviser, best yet...!!! Bye bye minion!

[quote]A rare Wigan victory this season! I know quite a lot about mortgage 'advisers' to the point where I no longer use them as they're are generally out to rip people off. If you are one (unlikely!) then that puts you in an even lesser bracket than I had you in previously! Shambolic mortgages recommended to me aside, I recently provided a package of services to a mortgage 'adviser' who was starting up on his own. He went on to do a runner with everything I had provided and not pay for what I billed him for. Those two issues alone sum up your sort really, along with your posts above! If he was earning a decent wage he'd have paid for that but, oh no, he can't have been! Oh and, by the way, your spelling isn't up to much. I suggest if you want to convince people of your position you need to go back to school and start again on that front!! Mortgage adviser, best yet...!!! Bye bye minion![/quote]you're one warped individual stu, i suggest you seek help instead of lying in wait on a website for an author you'l

you'll never meet. you've provided some laughs for me and my colleagues today but you seriously need to have a long look at your life mate. p.s. you never did tell me what business' it was you had, lol. seriously stu have a word with yourself, this type of behaviour isn't normal.

There's something in psychology called projection. People projecting themselves onto others. You clearly suffer from this affliction because this article is pathetic and petulant. You are not a football fan but a childish brat and an overemotional one too that jumps to quick consclusions that only your limited intellect allows. Go throw yourself in a lake. Pity your mother didn't do that to you when the vermin you are was born.

[quote]There's something in psychology called projection. People projecting themselves onto others. You clearly suffer from this affliction because this article is pathetic and petulant. You are not a football fan but a childish brat and an overemotional one too that jumps to quick consclusions that only your limited intellect allows. Go throw yourself in a lake. Pity your mother didn't do that to you when the vermin you are was born.[/quote]and the irony is you've gone and done exactly what you accuse the author of, how's that for projection. i suggest you're more the patient than the psychologist judging by your vitriolic attack, time to make a new appointment as the pills ain't working my friend.

The article is a bit of a rant but, what the hell, why not say what you feel? It was honest. Still I think its a bit unfair on Wigan. It takes decades to build a committed fan base. At least they try to play good football and they're OK to watch on TV. I live in Watford and I've gone to see them occasionally - same passionless crowd but god-awful football too. The Premiership could do worse than Wigan. An why the swipe at Sheffield United? They're a proper club with proper fans. I was sad to see them go down.

Your article typifies the modern fan who knows little about football other than that which he is spoon fed on SKY. Fortunately we all don't base our opinons on limited interaction otherwise Spurs fans would have been damned to the eternal fires of hell for booing and shouting through George Bests minutes silence at the JJB two years ago.

wigan thats it have a go at a small club! who only entered the football league in the late 70,s what exactly have the mighty spurs achieved in the last 20 yrs may i ask?the sacking of jol? what a way to conduct yourselves,total big club syndrome (better than most master of none springs to mind)a total prune.wigan are a small club and we cant get away from that fact but the bile spouted against them is sad they are where they are on merit and not for any other reason.bolton ,fulham,blackburn,get hugh vocal support do they?get a life.

I just read that article then the arguement between Stu and Brian Lara... I have just wasted about 20 mins of my life which i can never get back... 2 retards embark on a retarded arguement based on a retarded article...

As a Wigan Athletic supporter and season ticket holder for the last 12 years, we have seen Dave Whelan fulfil his plans as the clubs chairman, saving the club and rebuilding it and guilding them to 72 other clubs ambition "The Premiership". Whelan is a man who has always achieved in everything he sets out to do (he had the money and the ego to match his ambition). The number of managers who have come and gone, John Deehan, John Benson, Bruce Rioch and Steve Bruce to name a few. But Whelan is the guy who calls the tune. Unfortunatly the club hasn't grown with the their rise. The fans have mainly come from other clubs in the area (Utd, City, Liverpool, Everton)they may not even be Wigan fans but wanting to see Premiership football (£250 for a season ticket). When you look back to our Springfield Park days a good crowd of 3,500 only 10 years ago now we are expecting to fill a 25,000 stadium. The club has only been in the top flight less than 30 years, the problem is now, is that Dave Whelan isn't the main ma