Don't get your panties in a bunch miss. Who gave you the right not to be offended? Gerrard is a legend and you are nothing but a bad writer.

Excellent article. I couldnt agree more. Carra for Captain!!

But i suppose you will get critisism for writing something negative about Stevie. He can do no wrong in some peoples eyes. I think some Liverpool fans support him above the club. He is a good footballer but he doesnt have two brain cells to rub together.

"Foreigner" not nice word. Me not speak so good but I hope Englanders come to Euro 2008. Russian crumpet better than Engleesh tart but I lost my rubles.

Listen if your going to do an article on quotes given by a footballer on a subject, put the whole interview in because I noticed how you left half of it out and picked bits here and there to suit yourself and your argument. If anyone is being smallminded here it have a long look in the mirror pal. Having read the full interview it's quite clear that stevie obviously wasn't happy at the amount of opportunities for englands young and upincoming stars to tie down regular places in the top tier of english football, and by the way it is called the english premier league, not the spanish, not the german, not the european, so for steve to say our league it's like saying our national side. This kind of writing I presume can be found in some mosque's around england.

You are clearly an articulate chap. Stevie isnt, but dont be pedantic. You know what he means, but you are an aspiring tabloid writer trying to sensationalise every little thing. Talk of xenophobia and BNP is way wide of the mark and out of order. Have you ever seen a Liverpool game? Have you noticed that much of the team is made up of foriegn (sorry, "overseas") players? Steve clearly hates them all and cant stand playing them. Now put your writing skills into something positive and stop with the over-reactions and tabloid style hero knocking.

I read the article too and irrespective of the context, Gerrard's quotes in the above article can be considered in isolation. Gerrard should have kept his mouth shut. His 'foreigner' tirade is embarrassing and not the kind of outburst that should be associated with a Liverpool Captain.

Mr. Kanwar is well known to us. He has a psychpath bedroom with walls covered in Stevie G posters and photos. "I hate him. I Love Him. I hate him. I love Him."

again another article truing to pick holes at liverpool players or the team as a whole. The article is Pure unadulterated claptrap, please don't do any more articles and consider your life a failure!!!

i don't know whether this was the author's or the editor's idea but it's disgraceful to muddy the waters and stiffle debate by comparing gerrard's comments with "bnp rhetoric". gerrard was commenting on what is a legitimate debate and you shame your profession by using such a cheap headline grabbing trick. sportingo?.........it's a fucking joke

Don't blame the foreigners or oversea players for the lack of talents in the English squad. The fact that there are so few English players in foreign soils say it all. English players are just not good enough fullstop. I have been a Liverpool supporter for 30 years and believe that Gerrard has spoken crap. His comment is as good as his intelligence on football field. He is a talented footballer but not a smart one. I have also supported England. Unfortunately, it is the way that the English plays their football that make them crap. All bullish but no skill. Arsenal is known to be the most stylist club because they have some of the most talented and skillful oversea players. One can only blame those young English players who demand high pay before they are developed into skillful if not world class players. As a football lover, I enjoy watching the foreign players in English league.

I agree with Jambo. Kanwar is obsessed with Stevie G. He has a Kop site almost dedicated to serving up his diatribe, mostly on SG. It is really quite sad. I wish I could help but I think he is a lost cause. Get a Grip, Kanwar, Get a Life.

Listen Barnesy it's quite bleedin obvious what stevie g was saying and putting across, now if people want to get pc and tip toe once someone mentions the foreigner word, he was talking exactly the way pundits talk (unless your ron atkinson) but what's nearly worse than racists is people looking for racism at the drop of a mispelt word or a word spoken out of context. Grow up and stop been so trivial, anyone who questions someone now over that should be deported out of the country to begin with.

I bet you really are a Liverpool fan too.

Have to agree, regardless of what context these quotes were in they are still ignorant and should warrant an explanation. If overseas players were to leave Liverpool we'd be screwed and then Gerrard would be moaning we have no drive and would leave. On one side he is delighted at the capture of Torres as it shows our ambition but then he comes out with this? So many Liverpool fans see him as untouchable but he ain't, he's a great player when he wants to be but he's no captain

This has nothing to do with being PC - Gerrard's liberal use of the word 'foreigner' smacks of xenophobia, pure and simple. Granted, he's clearly not the sharpest knife in the draw, but he should have a little more self awareness. The problem is, comments like Gerrard's will be picked up by the kids who idolise him and they will twist it into something negative. I doubt Gerrard was being deliberately xeniphobic - however, he should be more aware of what he is saying in the public eye and how things can be misconstrued. I mean, banging on abot 'foreigners taking over the league?!' - it's pathetic.

Imagine being married to someone who constantly attacks what he professes to love; someone who says his affection and devotion is delivered through criticism alone. SG is just a footballer, Jamie, just a footballer. You can Love Liverpool without this abuse. Let it Be.

This article is ill-conceived and poorly executed; it's looking for an argument where there simply isn't one. Gerrard is not peddling xenophobic propaganda as you imply: he was merely answering a question put directly to him by the media. A question which is currently a hot topic and instigated by a foreigner no less esteemed by Michel Platini, the head of UEFA. In fact Platini can be said to endorse Gerrard's view as he has already commented on the deleterious affect on homegrown youth development in all the top leagues, and particularly the EPL, due to the massive expansion in importing talent. Gerrard merely said that he supported the concept of imposing quotas of homegrown players on teams – a system already in effect in the Champions League and other leagues such as Spain’s. The writer has a fair point when he suggests that the current predicament of the England team has nothing to do the number of foreign players, and all in the England camp need to look closer to home to find a reason for that fail

I can only be construed by absolute numpties like the people on here who make something out of nothing. Every day on sky sports, bbc 1 they talk about "foreign players" and do they get wrapped over it. You look at all the teams in the top division and you would only have a handfull of english players in each side compared to ten years ago, where foreign players were far and few between. There's nothing xenophobic about his comments it's plain fact. He is quite obviously annoyed enough english players aren't being given a chance and as well that they are not good enough if that is the case. Get out from under your white man hates all except his own, when it's obvious what gerarrd meant.

Have to agree. I'm not a Liverpool fan but have noticed this chap Kanwar constantly has a dig a Gerrard. Time to let it go, fella, he's happily married....to a bird.

To construe an argument that Gerrard is ranting “BNP” style rhetoric ludicrous and inflammatory. Proof of the writer’s knee jerk judgementalism is his misapprehension of perfectly sound English word ‘foreigner which is not in itself deemed to be derogative. Please refer to the terms ‘foreign aid’ and ‘Foreign and Commonwealth Office’ as examples and then see me after school, Mr Kanwar. Whilst on detention we can also discuss your homework, which I consider to be a feeble attempt at creating a trenchant and controversial opinion piece in the hope of being taken seriously as a journalist and being plucked out of obscurity as a web content hack. You may also wish to take note on those words that do actually imply racism and I refer you to your sentence . “overseas players are more intelligent, more disciplined, more technically proficient and more skilful than English players. Always have been and always will be.” Now who is the racist Mr Kanwar?

By the way it was "SIR" AF who was ferguson who was first to make a comment on this but none of his comments were nit picked so outragously, it's just a case of someone toepoking around looking for someone to bash and get media frenzy going. Absolute shite.

[quote]This has nothing to do with being PC - Gerrard's liberal use of the word 'foreigner' smacks of xenophobia, pure and simple. Granted, he's clearly not the sharpest knife in the draw, but he should have a little more self awareness. The problem is, comments like Gerrard's will be picked up by the kids who idolise him and they will twist it into something negative. I doubt Gerrard was being deliberately xeniphobic - however, he should be more aware of what he is saying in the public eye and how things can be misconstrued. I mean, banging on abot 'foreigners taking over the league?!' - it's pathetic.[/quote]don't insult the intelligence with the indignant stance. gerrard's comments were open and honest and on a subject which is quite legitimate to debate(as is being done at differing levels within football right now), your attempts to skew what are legitimate comments says more about your lack of intellect than it does gerrard's.

Well said, Bon Bon. Kanwar is a self-righteous bigot; but we're all wound up and adding to his blog hits. Signing off now. Goodnight, Kanwar, you moron.

Where do you get the notion that "foreigner" is a divisive term, I'd love to hear an explanation on that one. Unfortunately prats like you are part of the problem infecting the UK and much of the western world with your OTT political correctness gone wrong. If it were up to people like you we'd all be tucked up in bed by 9pm under the watchful eye of Big Brother and his cronies, and lose all sense of individuality as we become part of the collective. So what if he refers to it as "our league" after all he is an Englishman playing in the English Premiership, would you get as bent out of shape if Maldini said the same thing about the Italian League, Puyol the Spanish, etc? What's wrong with pride in your country, it doesn't automatically mean that you're xenophobic or am I missing something here? Come back when you have something intelligent to say

I refuse to acknowledge the opinion of someone who cannot spell "jamie". Use the correct English syntax. Bloody foreigners, they come over here and steal our names and add vowels where they're not required. I blame the jews

[quote]To construe an argument that Gerrard is ranting “BNP” style rhetoric ludicrous and inflammatory. Proof of the writer’s knee jerk judgementalism is his misapprehension of perfectly sound English word ‘foreigner which is not in itself deemed to be derogative. Please refer to the terms ‘foreign aid’ and ‘Foreign and Commonwealth Office’ as examples and then see me after school, Mr Kanwar. Whilst on detention we can also discuss your homework, which I consider to be a feeble attempt at creating a trenchant and controversial opinion piece in the hope of being taken seriously as a journalist and being plucked out of obscurity as a web content hack. You may also wish to take note on those words that do actually imply racism and I refer you to your sentence . “overseas players are more intelligent, more disciplined, more technically proficient and more skilful than English players. Always have been and always will be.” Now who is the racist Mr Kanwa

How come you guys onlt get your panties in a wedge over a White saying anything?..Thats right Anti-racist/Nationalist is code for Anti White...

did you really think you could pull the wool over everyone's eyes to convince them that gerrard's a biggot while ignoring your own trail of latent racism? what a knob you jaimie and you obviously have serious issues with britain and it's people, i just hope for your mother's sake that you're not totally lost to the disenfranchised youth stereotype.........i hear MI5 take quite an interest in what those types get up on their computers nowadays.

With respect, I think it is you who is misconstruing the article. There is a difference between saying 'foreign players' and 'foreigners'. A big difference. To you it may seem minute, but what I believe the writer is trying to suggest is that Gerrard, with his unfortunate phraseology, plays right into the hands of intolerant racists like the BNP who perpetuate 'johnny foreigner' steretypes. As we all know, racism is still prevalent in football and on the terraces, and someone as high profile as Steven Gerrard should seriously think about the misinterpretation of his words before he opens his mouth.

Who is this Johnny Foreigner he must be some player to kick up all this fuss.

He's just signed for west ham's under 18's. He's french, with an arabian dad and chinese mother but hates all races including his own.Supposedly deadly from 20 yards.

gerrard is just typical of the average bloke in the street ... read too many tabloids and has come to the conclusion that the foreigner is to blame for the contries woes ... as mr wenger put it 'if you are good enough , you play' .... irrespective of nationality talent always reaches the top.. personally i think the numbers of foreign players in the league raises the standard of homegrown players coming through as the bar is raised ... why dont young english players go abroad? .. they lack bottle and they expect to be spoonfed... saying all this ... if youy actually look at the younger age groups , talent is coming through.. i think england reached the u-17 world cup semi's in the summer...

[quote]With respect, I think it is you who is misconstruing the article. There is a difference between saying 'foreign players' and 'foreigners'. A big difference. To you it may seem minute, but what I believe the writer is trying to suggest is that Gerrard, with his unfortunate phraseology, plays right into the hands of intolerant racists like the BNP who perpetuate 'johnny foreigner' steretypes. As we all know, racism is still prevalent in football and on the terraces, and someone as high profile as Steven Gerrard should seriously think about the misinterpretation of his words before he opens his mouth. [/quote]i'm sorry but what the hell is jaimie's article if not a recruiting sergeant for groups like the bnp???? your suggestion actually curbs freedom of speech and moves society towards fascism, although if you were as intelligent as you wish you were you'd know this. gerrard commented on a legitimate debate(uefa are having this debate and attempted numerous times to impliment foreign quotas, i suppo

i suppose they're xenophobic also?) using legitimate terms and to censure him would be aboslute lunacy and irony in equal measure.

How on earth is the article good for the BNP?! The writer castigates Gerrard for playing into the hands of right wing groups by using language that could be misconstrued and twisted into something else. I think this is clear. it doesn't matter if Gerrard commented on a 'legitimate' debate - he should consider the implications of his comments. In this context, 'foreigner' can be twisted into a derogatory term. If you can't see that through your blustering then you need help.

[quote]How on earth is the article good for the BNP?! The writer castigates Gerrard for playing into the hands of right wing groups by using language that could be misconstrued and twisted into something else. I think this is clear. it doesn't matter if Gerrard commented on a 'legitimate' debate - he should consider the implications of his comments. In this context, 'foreigner' can be twisted into a derogatory term. If you can't see that through your blustering then you need help.[/quote]igor you have no arguement my friend. the inflammatory comments jaimie made about foreigners being better than english players and trail of latent biggoted comments, not to mention the whole prmise of the article, are ,as i said, inflammatory and a recruiting sergeant for the very people you claim to be warding off. and by your logic we should curtail our own right to say what we want when we want????? GET REAL!! there is not one contentious word in his comments and his tone was no different to what is being discussed

actually bothered to see the interview, you would see that what gerrard said was nothing like you are making it out to be. the question he was asked contained the word foreigners and rather than slating the amount of them in the prem, he said it would benefit the english game if more younsters came through! crap article

nyon(uefa HQ) right now. igor as i have stated you have no arguement but it appears only beligerence(and perhaps lack of intellect) that is stopping you from realising that. i will also add that people like you(and jaimie) are extremely dangerous as you muddy the borders between what is racist or xenophobic and what is legitimate discussion making it difficult to put across subtle or complex points, the more you rattle on about gerrard being a biggot the more those you aim to reach feel curtailed and marginalised and the greater the risk of building intolerance and adding numbers to such hideous groups as the bnp.

How is the following 'inflammatory?!: 'Overseas players are more intelligent, more disciplined, more technically proficient and more skilful than English players. Always have been and always will be'. It's true. Overseas players *do* have more footballing intelligence; they are more disciplined; are more technically gifted and do have more skill. It is you who quite clearly has no argument!

You just don't get it, do you? The article does NOT aqccuse Gerrard of racism/bigotry or anything of the sort. It castigates him for using language that *could* be twisted by racists and bigots. Gerrard should have seen this before responding the way he did. Your persistence in trying to convince everyone the writer is a bigot is pathetic in the extreme. I may not agree 100% with the article, but I prefer to consider it fairly rather than inaccurately twisting things...

[quote]How is the following 'inflammatory?!: 'Overseas players are more intelligent, more disciplined, more technically proficient and more skilful than English players. Always have been and always will be'. It's true. Overseas players *do* have more footballing intelligence; they are more disciplined; are more technically gifted and do have more skill. It is you who quite clearly has no argument![/quote] you really have lost the debate now igor. if you can't see how jaimie's comments can be seen as inflammatory yet you still accuse gerrard of being so then i would suggest that you're unbalanced or jaimie's brother. have you heard of irony?? i think you should read the article and posts again before posting another comment.

Outrage, your hysterically muddled ramblings have ceased to make any kind of sense...

[quote]You just don't get it, do you? The article does NOT aqccuse Gerrard of racism/bigotry or anything of the sort. It castigates him for using language that *could* be twisted by racists and bigots. Gerrard should have seen this before responding the way he did. Your persistence in trying to convince everyone the writer is a bigot is pathetic in the extreme. I may not agree 100% with the article, but I prefer to consider it fairly rather than inaccurately twisting things... [/quote]so by your logic gerrard should not say anything that could be misconstrued(as i said previously a curtailing of civil liberties and the hallmark of a totalitarian fascist state) yet you can't see how jaimie's comments could be misconstrued or misrepresented??? i'm sorry but you're clearly MAD if that is the case. the real(or most obvious) irony of this is the only misconstruing of gerrard's comments comes from you and jaimie.

you've lost the debate my friend and you know it but it really does show a lack of class to beligerently deny this and attempt to confuse what is a straight forward arguement(shouldn't really be surprised as that's what you've done with gerrard's comments), although it could just be because you're a moron.

When was the last good game Gerrard had for England, the idiot is trying to deflect his shambolic playing away from the public's eyes, but we ssee through you and all the England players who haven't play well for a long time. The buck stops with the over-blown egos that are England's players. You are the reason we won't qualify, but you are too chicken-s..t to admit it

sach him hound him out of football the dirty racist!!!

A true compendium of opinion has perpetuated an engrossing debate unto this facilitator. How can it be so, that the musing of our hitherto erstwhile colleague has lead to this unfortunate circumstance. If we are to illuminate the true meaning of this statement we must allow the disproportionate section of society to submit their own agenda. Conversely those with absolute power cannot be mistrusted, if it is not folly to say so. Decisively put there can be no doubt as to the validity of the discussion, it is the conclusion that is highly questionable.

Igor, thank you for responding to my comment, however your are quite, quite incorrect. Firstly please consult the dictionary to find the meaning of foreigner. Secondly the article does not say that Gerrard is not a racist but that his words could used by the BNP. The article actually states that Gerrard is xenophobic. Thirdly you failed to respond to my point that Kanwar's statement that 'all' foreigners are more intelligent and talented than their English counterparts and always will be, that is English players will always be substandrad due to their very Englishness is the only thing in the article that is clearly and incontrovertibly racist.

Thank you Mr Architect.

the basic premise of the article is that gerrard, by his comments, is xenophobic and smack of bnp rhetoric. now negating all other factors and the flawed logic that some posters have used, forthis to be true you would also have to conceid that uefa too are xenophobic and nationalistic as they have attempted to impliment quotas on the number of foreign players for some time now and are still attempting to find a solution which pleases all parties. if however you do not conceid that uefa are a xenophobic institution then you must surely agree that gerrard's comments were legitimate and that he had every right to comment on what is an on going and open debate. i would also state that what gerrard has said is not even original in that the subject has been spoken about at much greater length from others within football.

the basic premise of the article is that gerrard, by his comments, is xenophobic and smack of bnp rhetoric. now negating all other factors and the flawed logic that some posters have used, forthis to be true you would also have to conceid that uefa too are xenophobic and nationalistic as they have attempted to impliment quotas on the number of foreign players for some time now and are still attempting to find a solution which pleases all parties. if however you do not conceid that uefa are a xenophobic institution then you must surely agree that gerrard's comments were legitimate and that he had every right to comment on what is an on going and open debate. i would also state that what gerrard has said is not even original in that the subject has been spoken about at much greater length from others within football.

The writer of this article is unspeakably ignorant, most probably somebody who thinks that saying the word 'black' is being racist.

i belive that the biggeest problem with england is lack of real good quality coaches.secondly,the big old ENGLISH PRESS.oh!the tell us how england have the best players and all.deceiving the public and the players.thirdly,a lot of ignorant,over pampered and over payed players.i love steven gerrad the fotballer,,but this statement shows how ignorant he is,and is a real shame. common ENGLAND,blame your self,and work to build better youth accademys.

[quote]i belive that the biggeest problem with england is lack of real good quality coaches.secondly,the big old ENGLISH PRESS.oh!the tell us how england have the best players and all.deceiving the public and the players.thirdly,a lot of ignorant,over pampered and over payed players.i love steven gerrad the fotballer,,but this statement shows how ignorant he is,and is a real shame. common ENGLAND,blame your self,and work to build better youth accademys.[/quote] i think you're missing the point mate.

Little Dick Writer, spewing his bile May get a kiss just once in a while What don't like about Stevie 'THE MAN'? Does he emasculate you? Have you got no balls? When he scores twenty yarders? Do you crawl up the walls? Is his bird better looking Than any you've had? Do you go green with envy When you think of his Wad So get real Jamie Kanwar You're a terrible scribe Twisting words to make 'stories' You'll NEVER survive A ne'r do well hack Who's been well found out Your 'Story' was Bollooks STEVIE GERRARD....we SHOUT! BBG 2007

due to flaws in our player value approximations, which have dubiously increased in the lt 15-20 years at exponential rates way higher than inflation, it is too expensive to get good british youngsters. They are exclusively for either the long accumulated wealth of Man U [fair play to them] or the Russian fuelled West Londoners, and Liverpool to a lesser extent, who can actually afford these obscene prices and wages for potential. Why not put caps on wages and prices, which will open the market up, and allow teams like Arsenal, newcastle etc, to compete for the creme de creme of British talent. I am sure Wenger would have loved to have SWP, but £20 million for a 20 yr old. hhhhhhhhhmmmmmm

[quote]the basic premise of the article is that gerrard, by his comments, is xenophobic and smack of bnp rhetoric[/quote] No. You are WRONG. The premise of the article is Gerrard should know better than making ignorant public pronouncements that have the potential to be misconstrued. Talking about 'Foreigners taking over' is right wing rhetoric of the worst kind. I'm not saying Gerrard is a BNP sympathiser or racist (!). I'm saying he plays into the hands of terrace extremists with his misjudged comments...

Considering that the idea of this totally amateurish journalism is to gather as many comments as possible by publishing outrageous headline and then catching the output, this article has achieved exactly what it set out to do. The writer would not be out of place working for The Daily Scum.

[quote][quote]the basic premise of the article is that gerrard, by his comments, is xenophobic and smack of bnp rhetoric[/quote] No. You are WRONG. The premise of the article is Gerrard should know better than making ignorant public pronouncements that have the potential to be misconstrued. Talking about 'Foreigners taking over' is right wing rhetoric of the worst kind. I'm not saying Gerrard is a BNP sympathiser or racist (!). I'm saying he plays into the hands of terrace extremists with his misjudged comments...[/quote]read your introduction again, there is no twisting of words. how DARE you attempt to pull the wool over peoples eyes by blaming me for your flawed logic. by your logic no one should say anything that could be misconstrued???? that is the hallmark of a right wing totalitarian state you moron and a major curtailing of civil liberties. also any comment can be taken out of context and misconstrued, especially with low intellect sensatioalist cretins like you in this world.

I did not write the intro - Sportingo did. The part that I write begins 'Steven gerrard has hit out at foreigners'. All the stuff in bold is Sportingo. I've explained my point - if you can't see the distinction then you are beyond reason.

also, by your incredibally flawed logic gerrard should not be allowed to comment on a debate that is being discussed by uefa right now. this is complete madness as it insinuates that uefa too is xenophobic by attempting to bring in quotas on foriegn players, something i do not believe to be true. lastly. you have come up with a flawed and poorly constructed article as an outlet for your vitriolic feelings, you've actually caused more offence than gerrard by your "foreigners are better all round" rant(something which really can be misconstrued) and you have attempted to point fault at me, an academic and a lecturer in history, and blame my post for twisting your frankly laughable logic. this is not on my friend!! i suggest you have a good long look at your own behaviour to identify where your own latant biggotry stems from, this self analysis will perhaps stop you from making similar mis-placed outbursts in future. i will also be contacting the sportingo editors to report your behaviour as it is my view that

You know this country is turning more in to a dictatorship then china, DEMOCRACY EVER HEARD OF IT??? its were people are allowed to have an opinion, about things especially if they are quite experianced in what they are talking about. people make a comment like this and you lot start beating the racist drum of opression, let him have his say wit out getting offended, if you dont agree wit hit fine, but bnp, where has that come from, this article should of never got past first post, you offend me, you know this country has minimum level of employment for ethnic mnorities and disabled people, this means there may be a pbetter person for the job but who cares because if you are not at the required level of disabled people or minorities that person is not allowed the job, it is something that i and a lot of people agree with , now why not have a minimum amount of english people, it seems perfectly reasonable, AND IF THAT IS SO OFFENSIVE TO YOU AND SO UNBELIEVABLE THEN THINK ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE GOING. DO YOU REAL

REALLY WANT TO LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE PEOPLE CANNOT EVEN HAVE VIEWS LIKE THIS WITH OUT ZENOPHOBES LIKE YOU ATTACKING HIM. it is you that are the zenophobe not the other way round and this article is an attack on freedom of speach

it is my view that you are not fit to write for public consumption as you have no interest in th eopen debating of facts and you use flawed logic in order to support your own internal bitterness and vitriol, much like the rhetoric of the hideous BNP.

For someone who claims to be an Academic, your poweres of comprehension are severely limited. You are determined to convince people that I hold the opinion that 'Foreigners are better all round' but any fair minded person can see you are grasping at straws. What I said was: 'Overseas players are more intelligent, more disciplined, more technically proficient and more skilful than English players. Always have been and always will be'. This is football comment, nothing else. Overseas players do have more footballing intelligence than english players. History has proved that to be a fact. How is that a xenophobic comment. It's the same as saying Brazilian players have more skill than english. So, why don't you stop twisting my words and make an attempt to debate in a fair manner...?

You, like many others have also failed to see what I was saying. And don't give me a lecture on democracy. In a free society, democracy creates freedom of speech, which means I have all the right in the world to slate Gerrard's comments if I so wish. And stop going on about the BNP! I did not write the stuff in bold (Sportingo did) but I mentioned the BNP in my article because Gerrard's 'Foreigners taking over' cobblers is very close to the right weing rhetoric spewed by the BNP. Gerrard should consider the impact of his comments before opening his mouth. Gerrard has a history of foot in mouth disease anyway - just look at his recent comments about England being more important than Liverpool. His lack of awareness is stunning...

[quote]For someone who claims to be an Academic, your poweres of comprehension are severely limited. You are determined to convince people that I hold the opinion that 'Foreigners are better all round' but any fair minded person can see you are grasping at straws. What I said was: 'Overseas players are more intelligent, more disciplined, more technically proficient and more skilful than English players. Always have been and always will be'. This is football comment, nothing else. Overseas players do have more footballing intelligence than english players. History has proved that to be a fact. How is that a xenophobic comment. It's the same as saying Brazilian players have more skill than english. So, why don't you stop twisting my words and make an attempt to debate in a fair manner...?[/quote]i find it highly ironic that you're accusing me of misunderstanding when it is you who has misunderstood and misconstrued both Gerrard's comments and my own. add to that the fact you've neglected the valid point

Your whining is becoming exceedingly tiresome. It is planly clear that you have misunderstood my article. I have not misconstrued Gerrard's comments, I have merely INTERPRETED them in a different way to you. Are you able to grasp the distinction? I would suggest not...

neglected to recognise the valid points i have put across in orderf to defeat your pathetic notion. i fear the real reason you can't comprehend my logic is because you are so consumed by either bitterness, ego mania or down right beligerence, either way it's an indictor of a detatchment from reality. finally, you really trip yourself up by revealing that you can't find flaw with your foriegners are better rant, so by this logic georgos samaras is better than a michael owen or a wayne rooney???? no, your comments are vitriolic, far from factual and far more offencive than those uttered by steven gerrard. now i'd thank you to dive back in to whatever little self loathing hell hole it was you poked your head out of, you have no credentials as an author or as a pundit and the misreading of events shows either a severe lack of intellect or the onset of mantal illness.

[quote]You, like many others have also failed to see what I was saying. And don't give me a lecture on democracy. In a free society, democracy creates freedom of speech, which means I have all the right in the world to slate Gerrard's comments if I so wish. And stop going on about the BNP! I did not write the stuff in bold (Sportingo did) but I mentioned the BNP in my article because Gerrard's 'Foreigners taking over' cobblers is very close to the right weing rhetoric spewed by the BNP. Gerrard should consider the impact of his comments before opening his mouth. Gerrard has a history of foot in mouth disease anyway - just look at his recent comments about England being more important than Liverpool. His lack of awareness is stunning...[/quote]hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha you're pathetic mate

which indicates a lack of the necessary maturity to be an author.

A surefire sign that you have lost it. Your hysterical ravings are an embarrassment. By all means, carry on!

[quote]A surefire sign that you have lost it. Your hysterical ravings are an embarrassment. By all means, carry on![/quote]more ego protecting insults, you really have lost the debate.

I consider myself defeated. I bow to your superior intellect. I an not worthy!

the living in denial harms only you, i'm happy with my life and what i've achieved in it i suggest you are not.

been reading your articles for a while but am dissapointed with your consistency, cuz u just seem 2 be getting dumber and dumber

been reading your articles for a while but am dissapointed with your consistency, cuz u just seem 2 be getting dumber and dumber

"When you have 11 foreigners in a team, this is not good for the development of football," said Blatter. "Football has never had the courage to go against this practice but it must now." He added: "This is a matter of principle. We need to protect the national identity of the football clubs. The EU say that this is not possible based on free circulation of workers but in football principles are different – footballers are not workers and you must be 11 players not one." Ho dear, he used the word "foreigner" Is he a racist biggot?

"England can only blame itself," said Cruyff. "The clubs have brought in far too many foreigners and the club academies, where English talent should be coached and trained, have been neglected. England will pay the price for this next summer, where I don't think we will see the national team competing with the top European nations. Ho dear, he used the word "foreigner" Is he a racist biggot?

do you have any proof he votes bnp, or he has anything to do with them. you are also in the public eye and should stick to the point, and yes i have a right to lecture you on freedom of speech, unlike you i have proof above you have over stepped the line, it should be allowed to discuss the iportance of a levy on forign players wit hout some one bringing in the BNP. for god sake you are out of order, if you feel that he is wrong for saying that fine i would never ofg had a problem with that it should be up for debate, but saying because he has an opinion he is not fit for position of captaincy and he is similar to bnp is way way past the line, accusations like that get you no where

it should be allowed that he can say his opinion with out the oposition to his opinion saying get rid, that is opression you think how we think or you loose your captaincy and position in england, more then that your livly hood, thats what you said after all, you are in the wrong how would you like it if when you wrot this article sportingo said thats it you can never write for us again, and your employer said you are sacked, thats wh i call you zenaphobic and even a bully, because its ok to say these things to him but no you and your arrogance will keep coming back and defending your opinions, with out knowing when you are in the wrong. MY BIG ISSUE WITH YOU IS NOT YOUR ARTICLE AND FIRMLY BELIEVE IN FREEDOM IN SPEECH AND WE SHOULD WELCOME EVERY ONES OPTION ABOUT EVERYTHING, IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WE SHOULD DISCUSS IT AND WORK IT OUT, not force them out of a job have a go at them and brand them soemthing they ar not, if we went down your way of thinking who knows were it may end up, after all thats our dictar

While many a football fan who's love of top quality football and basic understanding of economics could see that Gerrard's statement was not only wrong (quota's do more harm than good) but also inappropriate - given that he is team captain at a team with many foreigners, I'm still a bit dismayed at reading this article. Perhaps because I know the author to be a long-time anti-Gerrard campaigner, but more so because I find it somewhat disturbing that a man can be labelled xenophobic for making comments that have been heard through-out the media by many an "expert" with no such castigation following. The phase "foreigner", which I agree can carry negative connotations, is routinely used in this discussion in England, and many fans and players use "our" when referring to "the" league or "their" club. This article provides further evidence to support my theory that the author is merely grinding an axe against Stephen Gerrard, and his credibility ought to be questioned.

Keep stalking me across the net with your desperately tedious attempts to persuade people I have no credibility! How are you going to reach the 8000 people who viewed this article to individually persuade them that I'm wrong?! Still, your dedication is admirable...

if u think like that why liverpool can reach until final 1984...hyprocite ppl like u always want ur club win trophies although without any englishmen in team