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by Stanley Ong on 22 November 2007
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by Armory on November 22, 2007
Liverpool big time boys? LIVERPOOL???
by RomansUncle on November 22, 2007
Why mention Liverpool in the big 3? Is it not nearly 20 years since they won the title and probably 10 since they competed for it? You decided to exclude Chelsea from the big 3, but then again it was over a full 12 months ago since they won back to back titles. Also, the year before Roman took over Chelsea beat the scousers at the bridge to grab the last champs league spot. So, to say they were only top 4 after Roman is a complete nonsense!
by oj on November 22, 2007
liverpool still own the champs league and then got to the ...finsih top 4 regulary...
by Scott on November 22, 2007
Would Arsenal have become one without bribing there way to the top? Would they have become one without "Sir" Henry Norris giving a few backhanders here and there? Would Liverpool without heavy investment a while ago? Money does make the world go round. Always has.
by Stanley on November 22, 2007
I don't think you can exclude Liverpool if you consider their very succesful past. As I said, before Abramovich, Chelsea were in huge debt and had to sell off big players. Thus, he helped rebuild the club to the footballing power it now is.
by jonathan on November 22, 2007
Look at West Ham... they got sum foreign guy pumpin cash into the club and nearly got relegated, they still havent been much better this season (ps whats happened to freddy ljungberg is he dead?)
by LondonGooner on November 22, 2007
...isn't picking on Chelsea because he's right before Abramovich came along Chelsea were days from bankrupcy and not that big a draw. Now they are but i don't think that automatically means a club can be classified as a "big"! club, things like past success, current success, game status, wealth, playing staff, coaching staff etc etc all come into the equation and Chelsea weigh up well against all those criteria compared to Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal, except the previous history which makes them a distant 4th out of the "big 4", that could change with a sustained period of success, unless Abramovich ups sticks and moves on to his next project. It takes decades to become part of the elite and Chelsea can't claim that, just yet, maybe but not just yet!
by mike on November 22, 2007
shame about the big 3 fans worst in the league and quietest
[quote]shame about the big 3 fans worst in the league and quietest[/quote] I think i would rather have a crowd 3-4 decibels quieter than Man City's for consistant success over the last few decades and a stadium we actually own....how about you.
by Dan on November 22, 2007
For One we now own our Stadium Thanks to a Certain Man called Thaksin ;) so thats pissed back on your head.
If thats true then i stand corrected, not afraid to admit being wrong. But it does get rather tiresome to hear less successful teams harp on about great/better supporters than there superior neighbours (football wise) it's like listening to spurs fans harp on about "well atleast we have english players" Yeah great, thats got you really far hasn't it, the same to be applied to loudest fans etc, it means very little other than a wee personal triumph over the "nearest and dearest neighbours" At the end of the day it means very little IMHO.
by jmacca on November 22, 2007
200 year lease at eastlands so will be around for sometime yet
londongooner if meant little why harp on about it the other guys wrong we dont own the ground and the wifes a gooner
[quote]londongooner if meant little why harp on about it [/quote] I dont harp on about it, i just mentioned it because someone else had commented on it and i thought "oh here we go again!" Well atleast she isn't a Man Utd fan eh? So what is the score with man Citys stadium or not? Tennants, owners what?
think about it . what would you prefer. the ground being owned by the club who is owned by the shareholders. Controlling shareholders could sell the ground for any purpose if they so wish. In citys case Thaksin doesnt own the ground therefore cant sell it!! Manchester City Council own the ground. As long as city are still there they wont sell it.
by Barnsey on November 22, 2007
What has "the stadium" got to do with anything! FFS! Everyone knows that the "top four" are Arsenal, United, Liverpool and Chelsea... usually it is a two horse race for the title... Spurs almost got into the Champs League places a couple of seasons ago but were felled by Wenger's dodgy lasagne! each Season 3 or 4 clubs battle for UEFA spots and possibly Champs League... The only team to have actually won the prem outside of the "top three" is Rovers.
by Saxon Paige Vickers-Buckley on November 22, 2007
"Is the football world a capitalist market where the big teams get richer and the lesser teams get poorer." Idiot. Open your eyes. The only way people like you continue this blindness is by redefining "poor" every few years. The so-called poor of today are living high-on-the-hog comapred to the poor of yesteryear. They don't teach social history in baby school anymore, or, when they do, they strip it of all context? If you want to see a world where the poor (and everyone else) became absolutely poorer overtime, have a look at places where the market was reduced to nothing. The poor are not getting poorer, they are getting richer, and the gap between the very richest and poorest today is less than between a french peasant with leprosy and the Sun King, you pleb, and, in anycase, there is more than one way of evaluating "poverty" and it isn't just collecting material goods, is it?
by sven - not so bad after all on November 22, 2007
We all know who the top three/four are. but this thread started about who can join them. Look no further than that glorious STADIUM at eastlands. Maybe not this year but by end of next season city will gat in the european moneybags league
Please provide verifiable facts (just the facts) to support your assertion that the so-called poorer teams are getting poorer. You might want to stop trying to measure "poverty" with reference to "rich" but focus instead of asset shifts over time. If I have 100 pounds now, but only had 10 pounds ten years ago, am I richer now? If my rich neighbour has 1 million pounds now, and had 1000 pounds ten years ago...how am I poorer? has the "gap" increased? Assume this ephemeral gap has increased...so what? The issue is, am I poorer...not is he richer. Jealousy and envy. BTW: my rich neighbour is the one who offered me a job. I hope he buys that fancy yacht, 'cos then I'll have some more work painting it for him. Enjoy your cabbage soup in equality of misery.
by wazza10 on November 22, 2007
What colour is the sky in your world, certainly not blue, City will never be in europe full stop never mind the Champiosn League, your as disillusioned as every other sad blue, wake up and smell thye coffee CITY ARE CRAP!!!
by Sven - not so bad after all on November 22, 2007
so at the moment you are one place above being crap in the prem.
We are consistently up there season after season, you on the other hand are usually languishing near the bottom, you can comment at the end of the season when Man U have won the league and you are no where near qualifying for Europe. Come back when you know a bit about football!!
So you can comment now but i must wait to the end of the season. What a MUppet. I actually said next season in any case. Wazza10. Is that your name and age?. If you knew anything about football you would know that things change eventually. In the late 70s 80s we never imagined Lpool going 16 yrs without winning the league.
by Villain on November 22, 2007
Man U 0 - 1 Man C
by thrillhammer on November 22, 2007
I think a few people on here think that if you get in the top 3 you remain a top 3 club forever, statistics say not. There was actually a league before the premiership. All it takes is a change of manager and it can all come apart. Blackburn, leeds, spurs ( not this time ) etc. The articles on here remind me of a comical saying " were the biggest club in the world!!, who says? Its a Well known fact!! Grow up sticker book geeks!!!!!