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by Jaimie Kanwar on 24 November 2007
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Steven Gerrard’s abject ability as a captain was exposed once again as England suffered ignominious defeat against Croatia. I’ve said it once and I will say it again: Gerrard is not a leader. He does not have the strength of character, the fighting mentality or motivational power to be an effective captain and this has been proven time and time again for club and country. England were wretched in every respect, and the so-called ‘Golden Generation’ were exposed for what they really are - limited, technically inept prima donnas, drunk on their own hype, whose competitive edge and work ethic has been dulled by rampant egos and shameful avarice. 'Gerrard does not have the strength of character, the fighting mentality or motivational power to be an effective captain and this has been proven time and time again for club and country'For once, Alan Hansen had the guts to tell it like it is when he said: ‘'I can't believe how poor Steven Gerrard was'’. Gerrard has been poor for England for a long time, but his international failings have been glossed over by the fawning media and the blind faith brigade who refuse to accept the truth. Yes – I said Gerrard is NOT world class. The media hype him and every other English player with a smidgen of talent as ‘world class’ but the evidence does not support this hollow assertion. If Gerrard IS world class, where is the proof? I can already guess the response from the ‘Gerrard can do no wrong’ club: But what about that goal he scored against Olympiakos? What about Istanbul? What about the FA Cup Final? But Alex Ferguson said so!
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by CK CK on November 22, 2007
Zidane, Ronaldinho, Maradona, Cruyff, Platini, Beckenbauer, Puskas, Eusebio, Pele.. They have their team built around them. Gerrard is restricted by McClaren tactics. Enough said
by Matthew on November 22, 2007
Stupid article
by Chegs on November 22, 2007
I almost got past the first line without laughing, but couldnt help myself. You tell me a better English midfielder that could do his job today (and if you say Lumplard, I will personally come to whereever u are at and kick the crap out of you). Englands 2 best players last night were Crouch and Gerrard, which says little as they were all sh*t. You write like a 4 year old kid and seem to hold similiar opinions on football also...
by Jaimie on November 22, 2007
As I highlighted in my article - same old excuses. Always someone to blame for Stevie's failings. Steve McClaren has to take some of the blame BUT the players must take the most blame. After all is said and done. there are 11 players on the pitch playhing football. Tactics have nothing to do with their inability to keep the ball, their lack of skill, creativity and woeful technique. besides, Whenever Gerrard has played in his so-called 'best position' for England, he has failed - prime example being world cup 2006.
by Docker on November 22, 2007
Number one .. why should SG be the leader in the first place. Number two he does a fine job with liverpool, he has pulled them out of the fire many times. Fact is he cant carry 6 or 7 olayers .. No one can! Face it apart from 4 or maybe 5 core players the england squad is average.
Peter Crouch was the only player to emerge with any real credit. How exactly was Gerrard one of the best players? Please explain. What did he do? What was his specific impact? What chances did he create? How did he benefit the team. England were 2-0 down after 20 odd mins in what was basically a rerun of the Milan CL final first half - midfield overrun because of Gerrard's lack of organisational ability. You can go on about how good Gerrard is but where is the PROOF on the international stage?
You ask 'why should Stevie G be the leader in the first place?'. Is this a joke? He was ther CAPTAIN. It's his JOB to lead! Furthermore, we all know how Gerrard loves England and surely covets the Captaincy. He wanted it. He got it. He failed. Miserably. But of course, it's everyone else's fault - Gerrard had to 'carry others' and all that jazz. I disagree. Gerrard was just as much of a liabilty Lampard, SWP or the woeful Wayne Bridge.
Why is this an examination of gerrard. He wasnt the only one who Failed. What a stupid topic to bring up!! As if he has any other glowing role models in the english team. Forget scapegoats .. average team and a muppet manager.. end of!
by rdless on November 22, 2007
Every player in the world is entitled to have a stinker. Gerrard IS a world class player and anyone who cannot see that is void of football knowledge. If you are looking for a scapegoat, then look no further than the manager. He chooses the tactics, He chooses the formation, He chooses the players and He should be the one motivating them. 4-5-1 was never going to work. He only changed it to accommodate Lumplard and Gerrard. He then took off Barry instead of Lampard and left huge gaps for Croatia to stroll through. I don't dislike Lampard but the manager has to make a choice between him & Gerrard and go with it.
by R8VVY on November 22, 2007
As a liverpool fan I agree that Gerrard should not be in the England Squad along with crouch and any other liverpool player. Why waste such talent playing with the likes of Lampard!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL this guy is an idiot or what!!!!!!
by Jay on November 22, 2007
Ridiculous article...no facts..no basis just obvious disregard for both sides of the opinion...let alone the fact that it's obvious you don't like Gerrard...didn't know it was just him against Croatia?? Sometimes i wonder if you writers just write this crap to extract a response which isn't writing it's propaganda?!?!
Gerrard wasn't the only one who failed. Everyone did. However, as the Captain and the epitomy of overhyped England, Gerrard deserves more scrutiny in my view. A real leader on the pitch could have made all the difference. A Souness or a Keane out there could have driven England through. The question is, when gerrard goes on and on about how he loves england and how the game is so important, why was his display as a player and Captain so passionaless and muted? I don't often quote Alan Hansen, but given that he is one of Gerrard's biggest fans and perpetuates a lot of the hype, for him to say that he 'can't remeber gerrard playing so poorly' is quite something. And it's true.
by 1979 on November 22, 2007
goals in an FA Cup Final, League Cup Final, UEFA Cup Final & Champions League Final. Is Steven Gerrard. This article is the perfect example of a short sighted knee jerk reaction. He had a poor game. But so did many others. Dont blame one player. When England got back in the game, did Mclaren change his system? No. Englang players bombed forward, and were caught by a quick break. The manager should have calmed things down and instructed his men to get behind the ball when they werent in posession.
I agree - every player has off days, but Gerrard has had an off day for England that has lasted the last 6 years. Since the Germandy 5-1 hammering, gerrard has played Euro 2004, WC 2006 and countless qualifiers. He has not had ANY IMPACT. If he has, please explain what it is. Oh sorry, I forgot - he scored against the mighty Trinidad and Tobago at WC 2006. Pele won the World Cup 3 times. To compare him to gerrard is an insult to Pele.
by bulldoze on November 22, 2007
perhaps you should play by yourself... you can put Gerrard on the bench... do you think England can win.... you asked him to carry everyone coz' he's captain?? make lampard as captain...the end result should be same... you should stop writing as i don't think you have any idea of what you write!!!!!!
by JD on November 22, 2007
England r a small club and yes i think gerrard shouldnt play for them. y waste his time playing for a small club with a small club mentality? i dont think any liverpool players should waste their time playing for england. and the whole talk of motivation? did u watch the 05 cl final and the 06 FA Cup final? fact is 5 english players in the whole squad played in the cl and thats cos fact is most english players r shite. u r a disgruntled united fan who hates everything scouse arent u?
it doesn't. It makes him an effective domestic player. This is not a knee-jerk reaction - I have been highlighting the same thing for the last 5 years. The fact is, Gerrard has failed CONSISTENTLY on the international stage. if he was world class, he would have risen above all the crap and had some kind of major impact somewhere. He hasn't. And it's not jkust Gerrard - England have NO world Class players. The only player who has come close in recent years is Michael Owen, who HAS done the business consistently on the international stage.
by MaarkusJ on November 22, 2007
Gerrard is a useless leader, he looks like he may be in need of a guide dog last night. Lets hope with Mcclaren gone he is next to follow.
But .. england didnt fail because gerrard had a bad game and if so why didnt the boss pull him off and not barry. He was trying to prove that gerrard and lampard can play together .. display his tactical nouse! Any one with eyes can see that pair dont work together ... liverpool saw this years ago with gerrard .. hes not a holding player.. thats why he plays so well for liverpool coz he has a platform with hamann (in the past) or macherano. His platform was lampard!! ... who wanted to do the same thing. England for the last few years have tried to get the best 11 players on the pitch rather than a functional "team". Players shoe-horned into the wrong position just so they are on the pitch in case they score a wonder goal. 11 players only but they have to have role and structure. When you loose that you have a expensive pub team ... everyone wants to be number 9
by funkyboy on November 22, 2007
yea, jaimie is a 4 year old man u fan. u really think a good captain would have saved england?
by AS on November 22, 2007
That is the most pathetic atricle I'e ever read. The simple fact is that a part from Gerrard and Rooney England don't have any other world class players and thats why they didn't qualify. And the fact that they keep hiring dodgey managers!
by KENYAN on November 22, 2007
Jaimie - There were 12 games played and Gerrard was a Stand in captain for the last two - Other teams book their sport during the first 10 games. Where was the leadership then? You are nothing but a disgrace to journalism
by John Q on November 22, 2007
Im sorry but you are completely wrong Jaimie - Gerrard is not the epitomy of overhyped England - Lampard is. Fact is England didnt have their strongest team on, had a rookie goalie, weak defence, average wingers and played one man up front 1st half - noone could have organised that bunch - what was Gerrard supposed to do with those two early goals? Even Keane and Souness lost some big games and underperformed at times - it happens in football. Gerrard at least looked like he was tring in trecherous conditions but he needed help - only crouch, gerrard, campbell, lescott, looked like they were giving their all - the rest were very very poor and lampard and barry especially so
re mcClaren. He probably was hoping Gerrard/lampard would click. But come on, he's not going to take gerrard off, regardless of how badly he was playing. McClaren doesn't have the balls to do a Rafa, and even id he DID, England have no one who can come on and change the game anyway. McClaren has to take some of the blame, but as I argued earlier, the players should take the majority of blame. Football isn't rocket science. As Bill Shankly endlessly propounded: Control the ball, pass it to your nearest team-mate and stick it in the net. England players can't even control the ball consistently...
by Ciaran on November 22, 2007
Hey, firstly I would like to anounce that I am a Liverpool fan. Call it bias if you will but I firmly believe you are just looking for a scapegoat to explain all the questions in your head. Initially we all blamed Maclaren, and rightly so... now I believe you feel slightly guilty and start to blame players more so Gerarrd as he is an easy target. He is captin, a world-class player (although didn't look it last night) and is always in the media spotlight. I think Gerarrd never preforms well for England... he is a club player through and through if that were Liverpool last night I can gaurentee you he would have done more to turn the game around as he usually does... Blame Maclaren and Bridge for complete incompetence...
Are you suggesting that impact on the international stage has *nothing* to do with being labelled 'world class'? Since Gerrard has never had an impact on the international stage, how is he world class. Same goes for Rooney. How exactly is he world class?! Yet more paper hype. Roony had a chance to prove his world class abaility at the last world cup. The shype was all about 'Rooney the saviour!' and what happened? He got sent off.
by yournoliverpoolsupporter on November 22, 2007
What is it with you, you claim to be a liverpool supporter and yet every article you write seems designed to attack them, if you're not attacking Rafa you're having a go at gerrard. You know what I think I think you're a manc in disguise. Take your obviously biased viewpoint and place it gently where the sun shineth not.
by jmashcerano on November 22, 2007
surely you dont mean the world cup where gerrard was the only player who showed determination and creativity and scored a 1/3 of all of englands goals 2 out of 6 yes he was poor last night but so was everyone bar crouch
Thanks for your sum-up Jaimie: "England have no one who can come on and change the game anyway" .. so thats not Stevie G's fault i dont think. PS: i sence a LFC vendeta in your writings, maybe i am wrong :-)
by rouman on November 22, 2007
its people like you who run the FA know nothinks, SG is the only world class player england have got. your head is so far up your arse you can,t see the daylight. i have seen pele. best, charlton, all play like shite at times that does not make them not world class. who ever gave you the idea you could ever make a usefull writer should be sacked along with you...
by Jim on November 22, 2007
I cant quite believe this website lets a retard like you write!! You mention a number of players (Zidane, Ronaldinho, Maradona, Cruyff, Platini, Beckenbauer, Puskas, Eusebio, Pele etc). You hva eonly picked the greatest players to have ever played the game!! In this generation Gerrard IS world class. You cant compare him against people of a different age and ultimately type of football. You also slag his leadership qualities? Do you think the result would have been different if Terry had been there, maybe we should called up Bryan Robson for the big game last night!! Englands best ever captain was Bobby Moore, and you never saw him ranting or raving, he lead by example just as Gerrard does. Gerrard had a poor game last night, but it is interesting how he played so much better without Lampard next to him for 3 games!! You are a fanny mate!!!!
by james on November 22, 2007
Hey your saying gerrard is crap, well sir you have no idea what your talking about, he made countless runs yesterday, he also made that sliding takle to save the ball getting to the other side of the pitch, where was golden balls beckham it was his lack of tracking back that left that gap that nearly exposed a clear opening, and look when the 3rd goal did come which side was it... thats right side side beckham was playing....you see the problem, too many people wanted to attack and noone wanted to defend, like gerrard said they should have shut up shop but no shite tactics made them pay the price.
I am a Liverpool fan - the difference between me and many others is that I prefer to subject today's Liverpool to the superior standards set by the Shankly, Paisley and Dalglish. By that, I mean the true Liverpool philiosophy instilled by Shankly and the boot room. Standards of grace, humility, class, pass and move, fairness, work ethic etc. Modern football and players like Steven Gerrard make a mockery of everything LFC stands for, which is why I am so critical. I've always taken pride in the fact that LFC were different to every other club in terms of sheer class on and off the field. That is being eroded, and sooner or later, we will be just like Chelsea: Classless and graceless.
by uptheirons on November 22, 2007
nuff said
by M@tt on November 22, 2007
That's article is just bull shit, Gerrard is a superb player & I think that every one who KNOWNS FOOTBALL WELL will agree with me
by Sachi on November 22, 2007
This article is a lot of nonsense. We , liverpool supporters are critical of gerrard when he's not playing well, but in order for him to be a success, he needs to have quality players around him. You talk of Pele, Ronaldinho, Cruyff and whoever else you mention, but do you realise that they play in a different role than Gerrard? they are creative midfielders and strikers, so by your definition, being worldclass means playing in that position. Plus i'm sorry but ronaldinho... tremendous skills but consistently delivered on the world cup stage? did u watch the last world cup? Gerrard was passionate about what he did yesterday and got his hands dirty alright. the tactical approach for this game was out of order, and I believe that McClaren has a big part of responsibility. England were toothless last night, barely any shots on target... how can you score if you don't take shots? They lost the game because they got outsmarted tactically by Bilic. That's pretty sad... and as one of the other posters said, if you
My argument is, gerrard cannot be considered world class because he has consistently failed to have any kind of impact on the international stage. If he IS world class, please explain why he is....
by arun on November 22, 2007
dude u must have been smoking sum good shite when you wrote this article......
How did Gerrard make a mockery of Liverpool? what about you make your next article about that? should be a good laugh... you think that if shanks was the manager today, gerrard would not be playing? can you explain why?
I merely reeled off the first names that came to mind. There are many more, but I shouldn't have to list them all. The point is, they can be classed as world class for obvious reasons. Ronaldinho? Instrumental in Brazil winning the World Cup in 2002. Instrumental in the Brazil's qualification for World Cup 2006, finishing top scorer, scoring crucial goals that got them to the finals. That is a consistent, measurable impact on the team. Where is Gerrard's consistent, measurable impact on the England team? And once again I ask, if he is world class, please explain why.
by Simo on November 22, 2007
Against andorra england didnt seem to be doing anything, suddendly the lad took the game by the scruff of the neck and scored 2. He's not world class if he cant do it on the international stage? WHY??? George Best IMO even as a liverpool fan was the worlds best player, how many world cup medals had he got? How did he do at international level? Was he not world class because of this? Stevie has performed at the highest level, competing with kaka, viera, Keane and nearly all of the worlds best midfielders and whats more in what was until this season a team filled with more mediocre players than excellant he's still got a medal collection only missing ONE!
by DOA on November 22, 2007
You are a Man U fan, and I claim my £5. Seriously, why are all your articles aimed at LFC? I tried to engage in debate with you in a previous article, until I read the other's you'd done, and realised I was wasting my time. You dislike us. Fair enough. Why don't you try doing something positive with your time, instead of writing bitter twisted "articles" (and I use that term loosely), try and do something good with your "skills."
Then you are living in serious denial, besides all the ridiculous, ignorant public comments and his ill advised book, twice threatening to leave for Chelsea, despite being captain of his hometown club made a mockery of LFC. And let us not understate the debacle that was summer 2004 - it was horrible and not what is expected of a Liverpool captain. Woulod Shanks have had him in his team? NO. He would have dumped him as soon as he said the words 'I want to play for Chelsea'. Any 'fan' who disputes that simply has no idea about Liverpool FC.
its tricky to define .. after all George best is regarded as having been world class but he never played at a euro or world cup, the same goes for giggs in his day and also pat jennings. World class means he has the talent and attributes to play in 99% of the teams in the world. But all players have off days (inc ones on your list) and if you have to chase around covering players .. like SG has to for england it makes his job harder and he has less time to show his class. The players you mentioned are pure flair players .. thats not gerrards game anyway
by Browny on November 22, 2007
Stop living in the past. The Shank/Pais teams won lots and dominated, but that doesnt mean it would beat the current team! The other teams in the league have improved massively since the days when Liverpool were the Richest and most powerful. MOVE ON
by Z Kay on November 22, 2007
Gerrard had a bad game, he didnt perform to his true level. Which of the 11 fielded last night did peform? Only crouch. Wayne Bridge was pathetic, SWP had a chance he wasted. other than the penalty what did Lampard do? You are surely a anti liverpool writer. Since i find it impossible that you only pick on gerrard. how was he to blame for the English players kicking everything to crouch and lacking creativity? If a captain is surrounded by quality he can lead. If the captain is held responsible for a goalkeeping blunder, poor service from bridge, missed chances from SWPhilips and a formation that is negative. Then the captain should follow jamie Carragher and DUMP england.
Docker come up with something original ;)
by Abhishek on November 22, 2007
Bah, what a poor article, Gerrard is the most complete football player ever, sadly he is not given enough support, on the field & it is further extended by such articles. Sad Really Sad
..eh giggs, rush, jennings, best, all missed out on major finals. Anyway SG is world class, if put up for sale he would be taken by 99.9% of the top teams, if thats not a statment of his class i dont know what is.
by kutawa on November 22, 2007
Then by your stupid reasoning, George Best, Paul Gasgoine, and countless others like Johan Cruyff who never won a world cup are NOT world class... We cannot explain how Gerrard is world class, watch him play god damn it! Thats how you know.. Steven Gerrard, devoid of skill????????????????? The world has gone absolutely bonkers! This whole internet thing is a mess and it really needs to start being policed, such thoughts should be censored and avoided like the plague.
by MAGICSPACEMONKEY on November 22, 2007
Fortunately we have the opinion of those in a position to judge to share our views with, you have blatantly failed to mention that not only the players, managers and coaches that have worked with Gerrard recognise he is a world class player but so to do the opposition who have dueled with him on the pitch, i see no mention of this in your article! Football is a team game, you have also failed to realise this, Gerrard is just 1 of 11 players on the pitch who under achieved yet you lay the blame wholely upon Gerrards shoulders, it is up to every player to stand up and be counted not just 1, yet you expect Gerrard to lead the way and the rest to follow like sheep. You have already undermined your own argument and and stripped yourself and your article of any credidibility by quting Alan Hansen when he said he can't ever remember Gerrard playing so poorly, in other words, it's been such a long time since Gerrard has had a bad game. Thank you for sharing your opinion though, it's certainly provided me a laugh tod
I'm not living in the past. The standards of conduct set by previous generations of LFC managers/players should be eternal. it's not about winning everything, it's about conducting yourself in the proper Liverpool FC way. Threatening to leave TWICE for Chelsea and publicly saying that England are more important than Liverpool is not the LFC way, and it is NOT how the Captain should be behaving. I am critical because I mourn the loss of the special something that set Liverpool apart from the rest. The sprit and attitude of the likes of Emlyn Hughes, Dalglish, Yeats et al is being eroded, and I hate that.
You know what, summer 2005 (im assuming you are talking about) was exactly what we needed, ableit we could have done it in a different way but gerrard stood up and said that he feels his team did not want him anymore and that that's why he thought of leaving. he never said he wanted to play for chelsea (find me some quotes if u will). Following these events of 2005, the board decided to move and realize that if they don't do something soon, they would lose more than just their captain. Investment was found and we are now entering a very important phase in lfc's history. When gerrard enters the pitch he shows passion and determination that only Carra comes close to match. Shanks would have had Gerrard in his team, and he probably would have been his captain too. On another note, if you want to be considered a journalist, find some better ways of replying to criticism.
... what i was saying was i just said the same thing about best never doing anything at international level. International football doesnt show world class players, playing against the best in the world does. Theres only one english player the coaches of argentina and brazil the 2 best teams in the world would want in there squads and thats our stevie
by Ash on November 22, 2007
i dont see you out there? its easy just to open your big mouth eh?
by Voro is god on November 22, 2007
Haha! What else to expect from Jaimie "gerrard-hater" Kanwar. I don't understand why you lads bother to continue reading Jaimie's articles about Gerrard. It's the same stupid arguments again and again. A bad Gerrard performance and Jaimie K will be the first on his back, but guess what you'll never hear anything from him during Gerrard's good days. Looks like Jaimie K still hasn't gotten over Gerrard not signing for chelski, which as much as I remember, he was so happy about at that time.
Lets see previous articles by you "How long will Liverpool fans stand for benitez's vendetta against crouch" Why steven gerrard's not worth a place in Rafa's best liverpool 11 How liverpool failed Momo Sissoko Need I say more, you are a manc, Its the only thing i can imagine,that as a manc you are so twisted with your hatred for Liverpool that you assume the identity of a supposed Liverpool supporter in order to give your venemous articles some credibility. Guess what, It isn't working Frankly if you are a liverpool supporter, then find somebody else to support, because we have enough proper supporters and no need for hateful people who are living in a past that their probably not old enough to even remember. Shankley would have been disgusted to read your articles and would have in all likelyhood sent you to the bottom of his garden to watch the play
by MaradonnasBelly on November 22, 2007
Gerrard is worldclass. He is an attacking midfielder. He may not be the best tackler in the world, but I believe he is told to hold back on the ferocity of tackling to remain injury free and leave it to Massy and Sissoko at pool. What he does, he does well, covers lots of yards, attacks, passes,crosses, scores. He doesn't fart around with the ball. He does his bread and butter better than most (not all, there are better out there but not in England). Lampard comes close but thats it. Scholes in his prime would have matched him. Now in terms of leadership, he is no Roy Keane.He leads by example, he is not mr Motivator like Terry, but at the same time he is a better leader than beckham was. They should have amputated Beckhams right foot at birth and given it to Gerrard, coz that's all Beckham is- a right foot. So overall Gerrard is not the best leader in the world at all, but when Terry is injured he's all they have. England will never be a world-class unit until they sort out the grass roots style of
It clearly makes you feel better to label me a 'Manc in disguise'. Well, whatever. I don't need to prove my fan credentials to you or anyone. I've written lots of positive stuff about LFC over the years. Indeed, I've written positive articles about Peter Crouch and Sami Hyypia recently. You can keep burying your head in the sand, but the Liverpool I love is dying, and Gerrard is one of the executioners.
by sgfrankie on November 22, 2007
Crap post....I bet u never played any soccer.......this ain't a drinking spree!!
by hot shot gerrard on November 22, 2007
I thought I was the only person who could see how over-hyped Steven Gerard is. Well done Jamie on pointing his very obvious flaws. Words cant describe how I loathe this egotistic moron and all he stands for. He spouts about players diving yet he is at it all the time, he wants liverpool to be a great team again then calls for a limit on foreign players. He runs about like a headless chicken and hasnt the discipline to play in CM. People claim he won liverpool the CL but in reality it was his poor control of the midfield in the 1st half that nearly cost them the game and if it wasnt for a proper player like Hamannm then Milan would have won it. Surely all his midfield partners like Scholes, Lampard, Carrick and Hargreaves aren't to blame????
by Ian Fenech on November 22, 2007
Man you need to wake up and start smelling the coffee!!!!! It is the system that was wrong all the way with nobody knowing what the hell they were supposed to do. If anything the liverpool players were always the better one's on the field. What you should be commenting about is the fact then whenever and English game comes up, mysteriously all the man utd players are injured. Could be Ferguson is the cunning one and doesn't want his players to waste time and energy ................. What the English need is a coach with 'B***s'. How can one lead if nobody understands Mc Laren's tactics. I always said he wasn't the one for the job. Who looses a final 5-0.....................
You actually make excuses for Gerrard's Chelsea conduct AND try and say it was a positive thing?! This is the problem with modern football and modern fans: They love the players so much and treat them like gods, to the extent that when they do something worthy of rebuke, they give them a pass and make excuses! There is no excuse for Gerrard's conduct over the Chelsea debacle. It's depressing =how you can say it was the club's fault. Gerrard sulked like a kid because LFC didn't bow down and worship him 5 seconds after the CL final. It wasn;t the contract issue that irked him - he wanted more money commensurate with his own perceived importance. When it wasn't forthcoming, he threw a strop.
by Tony on November 22, 2007
Yawn
by Nozzy on November 22, 2007
Dont mean to offend you, but you really do come across as some sort of mong. Gerrards been much better playing alongisde Barry in a midfield 2, so what does McLaren do? Brings in Fatty Lamps and f***s it up again. And the simple fact is, England isnt Liverpool. This is why Terry was made captain in the first place, Stevie is Liverpool first and England second and thats a fact. I'd love to know what makes a world-clas midfielder if Stevie isnt one? Pray tell Jaimie.....
by Scott on November 22, 2007
Hallelujah. An article for once highlighting the fact Sir Stevie ME MBE is NOT world class, and never will be. And it seems (judging from a few moans and groans coming out in the media) they are finally coming round to that too. Listen, as an staunch Lampard supporter I can always give a fair and unbiased view of him and when he plays for England, he has been poor. A LOT! BUT, for some reason Lampard is an excuse for Gerrard to perform poorly, or if Gerrard is performing poorly it is never his fault, always someones elses. In fact people ask when was Lampards last good performance for England, well when was Sir Stevies? Well tell me this, where was this magical captain in Russia when we lost 2-1, where was this magical captain last night, when we lost 3-2? He was running round like a headless chicken, delivering hollywood, 60 yarder balls to no one that's where. Sorry Sir Stevie Gerrard, you may have pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes but world class you aint!
by vasa on November 22, 2007
I think the writer of this article is ourely Jealous of Steven Gerrad or he is guy and clearly in love with him but wont admit it. Steve Mclaren is the nigger in the woodpile . He left out Owen Hargreaves so no holding midfielder. Secondly David Beckham is sitting on the bench, Thirdly Scott Carson should not have been playing. David James with all his experience would have done a far better job, Joleon lescott and Sol Campbell looked out of sorts and that is how the goals came. It was pouring with rain and the conditions were not good either. The team had lots of injuries and they missed key players. Some players were clearly not playing the same game yesterday. SWP had a clear chance and fluffed it. Peter Crouch needed a link up striker and non was provided for 45 Minutes. Blame useless Steve Mclaren and not Stevie G. The manager is useless. The team almost saved his blushes. His technical team leaves much to be desired and man the man is clueless. Good he got sacked and about time. Please write sense next
The liverpool you love is not dying, it never existed. The difference is that we have people like you who read Tabloids as if they are gospel and then write stupid articles based on other peoples stupid articles. Let me tell you something, my memories of Liverpool are as sound as anybody's. I remember graham souness and tommy smith, players who in the modern game would not be able to make a living they would spend so much time seeing red cards. The Liverpool you talk about is the one where Shankly spent half his time making rude comments about Everton. Do you see my point, You have read the sun too often, that liverpool isn't real, we were a team that won at all costs and did it better than anybody else. The world has moved on and its about time you did. And no it doesn't make me feel better to label you a manc, it feels like the truth, either that or chavski, and if in truth you are neither of these, then what would really make me feel better, would be you crawling back under the stone you crawled out from
by ahmed on November 22, 2007
i always bleive wht u say someone will came and do it and there u go u r right and i agree with u everything about stevei g
Er, no it isn't. Steven Gerrard himself disagrees. He said recently: "When I join up with England, these games are bigger than Champions League games or league games. You're representing your country. If you go to a major tournament and play well or achieve something as a team it's going to be a lot bigger than achieving something at your club." Oh, the irony. Surely lost on you though. And to answer your question, a world class player (IMO) is someone who a) Has a consistent, measurable impact on their club side b) Has a consistent, measurable impact on the national team. Gerrard has failed on the international stage, therefore he is not world class. I ask once again, if Gerrard IS world class, please explain why.
by Jimmy on November 22, 2007
As an American I'm sure I'll be told to go stuff it as far as my opinion goes but I'll just put it out there anyway. I've followed England and Liverpool for the last ten years of my life. I was fortunate enough to be stationed in England for 4 years and went to numerous England and Liverpool games. I went to all but 2 of the CL home games in 05. I'm just an average fella so my opinion is just that. I must say that this attack on SG is completely unwarranted. I got up this morning with very high hopes for England. I watched the game here in Japan where I'm stationed now at 5 this morning. From what I saw I don't think SG was completely off. The pitch was heavy and surely couldn't have been easy to run through for a complete 90 minutes balls to the wall. England as a whole were trying to force everything too early. That didn't seem right for a team only needing a draw. I'm not saying it would have been right to just skirt by but wouldn't a team in this position be more choosy as far as when to push
Your attempts to discredit me instead of focusing on the issue are increasingly tiresome. Modern football has changed, and Liverpool FC are changing for the negative. if you can't see that, they you are in serious denial. And no one in the media writes articles as critical of LFC as mine. That is one of the reasons WHY I prefer to be critical - to strike a balance. The media/fan love in is sickening. And I don't read newspapers, full-stop. Your Sun jibe is about the standard of comment I'd expect from you anyway. Are you capable of focusing on the issue or will you continue to revert to childishness sniping ;-)
by Sally on November 22, 2007
Yes ladies and gentlemen Steven Gerard is just another over-hyped over-paid English plonker. Has anyone here witnessed St.SteveG out play another top midfielder? Did he ever get the better of Keane or Vieira when he faced them? Does he make Scholes look like an school boy when he plays against the mancs? Gerard is that poor a CM that he cant play in a 2man midfield. He needs both Alonso and Mascherano to cover for his poor positional sense. Gerard is so over-rated by the english media it is embarrasing.
by LondonCalling on November 22, 2007
I agree people who read the Sun are grunts. Wayne Rooney reads the Sun, you're talkin his level.English football is bad. It's in a true crisis.
[quote]I merely reeled off the first names that came to mind. There are many more, but I shouldn't have to list them all. The point is, they can be classed as world class for obvious reasons. Ronaldinho? Instrumental in Brazil winning the World Cup in 2002. Instrumental in the Brazil's qualification for World Cup 2006, finishing top scorer, scoring crucial goals that got them to the finals. That is a consistent, measurable impact on the team. Where is Gerrard's consistent, measurable impact on the England team? And once again I ask, if he is world class, please explain why.[/quote] so your saying that because gerrard didnt get england to the finals and win it, or get england to any major final and win something, it dont make him world class? so the rest of the england team are shite aswell including rooney lampard beckham terry cole owen. none of them won anything with england, no england team since 66 has won anything, are all those players crap? no! your argument is flawed so take a nap it might
Jaimie What issue, all you have done is write an article attacking gerrard(not for the first time) There is no issue except you being a manc. Its poor journalism, its not balanced, its a diatribe of hate focused on an individual who oyu obviously dont like, The only person sniping here is you, and I'm sorry if you think my jibe about the sun is unfair, but the sheer bias of your article leads me to the conclusion that tabloid newspapers are about all your capable of reading
by jaimie on November 22, 2007
...and it will take 10-20 years to see any significant change. Everything about the game is poor, from grass-roots coaching right up to the ignorant buffoons running the FA. It's a good thing that England didn't qualify, because maybe the powers that be will see the reality now and institue wholesale changes at every level. What am i talking about! That won't happen! The FA faqtcats and prima donna players don't want to leave their comfirmt zone of money and prvilege. Nothing changed after failing to qualify for USA 94, and nothing will change now.
England has NO WORLD CLASS PLAYERS. Nada. Zip. None. Don't give me Rooney and Lampard as examples. How are they world class?! They're not, it's just media and fan hype that says they are. If Wayne Rooney, for example is world class, someone please explain WHY he is, instead of just reeling off meaningless platitudes. Same goes for Gerrard: Everyone is adamant that he is world class. WHY? He has failed abjectlyu to make an impact on the international stage for the last 6 years. how does this equate with world class status?
OK now if you want to look at someone really overrrated, you don't need to look much further than the Pilsbury boy himself. Apart from burying the pen last night, the only balls he played were to facilitate Croatia - do us all a favour and choose a target that deserves it - give StevieG a break dude.
by Vinny on November 22, 2007
Gazza, Beardsley, Barnes, Hoddle were world class. But the list is fairly thin compared to Italians/Germans/French/Argies/Brazilians/Irish/Dutch/ Spanish. England is restricted in churning out world class players. And the ones that do come along are just statistical flukes, not because the English game and way of playing made them that way.
And as for quoting Hansen as standing up for what he believes - total crap. The guy was praising McLaren for making a success of his sytem at the start of the game, then twin evil bro came on at half time to berate him for persisting with it !!
by Poor Fat Frank on November 22, 2007
Poor Fat Frank has got all the blame yet Sir Stephen Prince of the North Gerrard can do no wrong. How many years has Gerard been in central midfield for England and how many different players has he been partnered with yet the England midfield has been inept. Steven Gerard is the reason it is poor because he cannot control the pace of a game the way in which proper midfielders like Alonso, Fabregas, Pirlo etc etc. The Midfield last night should have beeen Gerard at RW , Carrick and Hargreaves at CM and Joe Cole LM. With Carrick and Hargreaes in CM the team would have had a platform to work from.
The bosses should eat humble pie and ask nicely to Martin O'Neill for his forgiveness. Only then will we be able to start rebuilding - get rid of the flotsam in our squad and get the young talent blooded - irrespective what division they play in.
by StevieG on November 22, 2007
Well said. England don't understand how to develop sports, they rely on a large population to come up with some talent themselves. What the ozzies do in sport should be looked at and [some] of their techniques adapted (not the East German ones) ;)
You wrote an article about Englands awful performance last night. And a liverpool supporter chooses not to talk about how crouch was the only player to distinguish himself, nor to talk about Fat Frank going missing again, or the complete incompetence of the defence, or joe coles inept performance, or SWP inability to cross a ball or get behind a defence. No you decide to write a piece entirely attacking steven Gerrard. I'll say it again MANC<MANC<MANC
by jj on November 22, 2007
agree%
by Brian on November 22, 2007
I think your a space cadet
yes your right rooney is shite so is lampard, gerrad on the other hand is different class, he was let down by those around him, for instance croatia broke in the second half and their player checke back and tried a cross field ball but gerrard intercepted it had he not the player making the run the other side was on goal wot only richards to beat, had there been a better palyer playing right side that oppurtunity would not have present itself to croatia, ie beckham was shite, he should have been tracking back, the team played shite as a whole, had their been better palyers around gerrard liek at liverpool we may see the best out of gerrard, he has done it all over europe playing against the world class players ie kaka pirlo ronaldino maldini etc etc he has shown them what he can do when he is not doing everyone else's job.
by Sharath7 on November 22, 2007
Steven Gerrard is world class, no doubts abt it. Probably the best midfielder England have got, and the best all round, all action midfielder in the world- This from a Manure fan, as the red scum from liverpool would call. Is he a great leader...yes he is, everything he did in the last 3-4 season suggests that. Apart from him, Rooney, Ferdinand and Terry, England have got no world class players. And since the other three were missing yesterday, Stevie was playing in a team, lets face it...which was substandard and just couldnt matchup to the Croatian team. How ever good a player u are, u need a quality guys around u to win something at the world stage, ask Giggsy and George Best that...
Jaimie do you think the problem is that all the england players hate each other ie manu players hate liverpool players and chelsea hate everyone etc etc. could this be a handicap for the national side, personally i think so, if dont help when your mananger is crap- lets face it with the players available mclaren messed up big time. i think his tactics let me down for mation was right but wrong players, i would have played 4 1 3 2 against most of the smaller countries and 4 2 3 1 against the more technical sides#/ what do you think?
by Omar on November 22, 2007
All these world class players you've mentioned played with other world class players in great TEAMS. England are not a great team. Every team in the world, club and country, would jump at the chance to have gerrard in their team. Simply: England - 2 good players 1 clueless manager = not a hope.
[quote]Poor Fat Frank has got all the blame yet Sir Stephen Prince of the North Gerrard can do no wrong. How many years has Gerard been in central midfield for England and how many different players has he been partnered with yet the England midfield has been inept. Steven Gerard is the reason it is poor because he cannot control the pace of a game the way in which proper midfielders like Alonso, Fabregas, Pirlo etc etc. The Midfield last night should have beeen Gerard at RW , Carrick and Hargreaves at CM and Joe Cole LM. With Carrick and Hargreaes in CM the team would have had a platform to work from.[/quote] Jeez are you guys too ashamed to admit you support those tossas ?
by Antony on November 22, 2007
Gerrard has to be played in the correct poistion preferably out on the right-side of midfeld where he can make his surging runs from. If you look at the stats over his England career he has always performed to the top of his ability from that position. The real problem England have is there are just to many overseas players in the premiership who are not letting the "grass-roots" of english kids gain experience coming through the ranks, and this because of all the pressure clubs are under to perform due to television and the amount of monay they pump into the game. Personally from an english point of view the worst things that has happened to football in this country is was when Sky TV decided to start to promote football and started pumping all this income into the game. For England to move forward and become a global premier teams again - clubs need to be capt on the amount of foreign players they have registered, which will also effect my beloved "Hammers" as well so I am not being biased on little bit.
by bull on November 22, 2007
Is Gerard good at keeping Possesion? NO Does he have a good shot? YES Can he control the pace of play? NO Can he score goals? Yes Does he play the correct pass? NO Does he read the game well and find himself in good positions? NO Is he a good tackler? Yes There are too many NO answers for Gerrard to be considered a world class player.
by S on November 22, 2007
i cant believe this argument lasted this long... keep it up lads
by Goose on November 22, 2007
The foreigners are not preventing the grass roots coming through.. If they were good enuff they would come through. The methodology of the England game at grass roots is all wrong. Plus the players do all hate each other thats an English trait - North vs South. Lets face it drop England and follow another team is the only option. Grassroots wont change, as English people fear change, they go abroad and want pie and chips and beans every day and ignore beautiful local cuisine - Proof - Future is bleak my friends
by Pedds on November 22, 2007
As a Liverpool fan who has been a season ticket holder since 1968 I feel that I am qualified to comment on our captain. Jaimie is correct when he criticises SG for wanting to leave. He sulked because he didn't feel loved. He lost of fans support for even thinking about leaving the club he grew up with. He was made captain to make him feel better even though everyone knows that Jamie Carragher should lead the team out. SG needs to keep quiet and keep out of the press. He is always on hand with a helpful quote that most LFC fans disagree with. EG England before LFC. He is the perfect example of someone not being anywhere near as good as he thinks he is. Why are the press scared to say when he has a bad game. He never chases back when he loses the ball and is always quick to moan when not given the ball by a team mate. Sometimes this causes players to look for SG when there are better options. He is not world class by any means. To mis-quote John Lennon, "The best midfielder in Britain? He's not even the best
by JonW 007 on November 22, 2007
And the scapegoating begins.. Okay.. if you seriously believe last night was all on Gerrard's hands then I guess you've missed every game that England tied or lost at the hands of poor tactics and yes.. lack of motivation. That latter point can't be pinned on Steven Gerrard. Either way, England should have never been in this position in the first place and I think every smart English fan knows who is responsible.. the FA. Enough said.
by MJ on November 22, 2007
I agree that gerrard is not as good a leader as Terry but in dat startin XI no-one wud hav dun a betta job. And 2 say gerrard is not world-class dont take da piss. He probably is one of the rare players that can be defined as world class. He is a complete player (pass, shoot, tackle, head, energy).
Is it not possible that Gerrard is the one letting down his team-mates some of the time? It can't be everyone else's fault all the time, surely? I doubt it's inter-club hatred that's to blame. The problem is, no one in the England team has the character to take control of the team, and that is because everyone is so lost in their won ego, they all believe they are number 1. Thus, no one ever takes accoutability, and no one can tell anyone else what to do because egos get in the way. The likes of Roy Keane, who do the business and don't give a toss whether his team-mates like him, are a rare breed indeed.
by Joco on November 22, 2007
I only had to see the name to know that this article would be complete b******s.....
Oh, and I thought his best position was in the centre?! Now it's on the right. Where next. right back?! And the idea that overseas players are hindering the England team is nonsense of the highest order. In the 70s, england failed to qualify for world cups in 74 and 78. Were overseas players affecting the grassroots of the game to blame then too?! No, becaus there were no overseas players then! What about USA 94? Significantly less overseas players in the premiership then, but England still failed to qualify. It is not overseas influence, it is English players: They are just not good enough and until the 'kick and rush' coaching of youngsters changes, nothing will improve.
by NatLampoon on November 22, 2007
Oo you have a season ticket since 1968 - You must know everthing then. I think you should lie down and listen to your John Lennon records. You are right about Carragher and Stevie Me 70%. Stevie is told not to track back and tackle so hard - he is told to reserver engergy for attack attack attack - him and scholes own that badge and yes world calss at it. Thats the reason he's world class, he knows what he is best at and doesnt try to be everything. He is a sulking shite though.
by Asad on November 22, 2007
hahaha all blaming Stevie G where as others dont perform either example Rooney what has he done for England ? if Gerrard aint world class then surely no other man in England shirt is simple as if someone is name me them so i can laugh!
by umar on November 22, 2007
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by rimmel on November 22, 2007
let me tell you something, gerrad is the greatest midfielder England has. but if you play stevie has a holding midfielder, like he was played on wed, he wont play well. and you must realize that englih players are not world class, No english player will ever be world class, WHY, caz they are english.. It is a simple as English are simply not good enough. to be honest they are just simply cr4p
by top shotta on November 22, 2007
i agree with some of the comments made but you cant tell me that there is a better midfielder in england than steven gerrard. im a liverpool fan and il be the first to admit that SG played very poor and i personally dont think he did enough as captain to motivate the players he seemed very quiet. people need to understand england are not as good as we think and this campaign has shown that we are never going to win cups with b class players such as wayne bridge, alan smith and sol campbell even defoe has been poor and i would have bent in front of him any day england lack movement and thats why the football is so poor they do not have enough technically gifted players but SG is the one player who is technically gifted. he is a great and people are mad to say he is not
by Alex on November 22, 2007
Gerrard is not a leader in the locker room, he's just not that kind of person, but he doesn't have to be, best player doesn't have to be a leader. But he is the toughest, most determined player with incredible winning mentality and THAT RUBBED OFF ON LIVERPOLL.
by Pablo on November 22, 2007
oo many people believe the media hype, Gerrard is a strong Premiership midfielder and a decidedly average player when he pulls on an England shirt. He's just not a strong enough character to lead England and to command the middle of the park. Stop dreaming scousers... he'll never be a Brian Robson.
by Alex Ferguson on November 22, 2007
Good, ok good, but not good enough. England will never win another trophy. Pity they cant buy players, like they bought John Barnes.
by JJ on November 22, 2007
or just a jerk reaction seeing as its writen by kanwar. Google "Jaimie Kanwar" and you'll see how much of an internet troll this gimp is.
by seb on November 22, 2007
Biggest load of bullshit I have ever read
Xabi Alonso, Javier Mascherano, Cesc Fabregas. Gerrard is the more 'complete player' but that doesn't mean he's the best. The three a bove are specialists in their positions. They don't need to play every position in the team because that is not the way football should be played. Just because Gerrard can play right back, right wing, centre mid, goalkeeper etc doesn't make him a world-beater. it makes him a useful utility player. I would much rather have a specialist midfioeld who can dictate the pace of a game than a jack of all trades.
by Gooner on November 22, 2007
As an Arsenal fan I can give an honest opinion on Gerrard and without doubt he is the only world class player england have got. Whichever numpty wrote this article said that Gerrard played in his favourite position during the 2006 world cup, what a load of bol locks.. I clearly remember him playin defensive midfielder to the "flop of the tournament" Frank Lampard and also remember that despite playin in front of the back 4 he was englands top goal scorer in the competition..And how can you say "Forget about Olympiacos, Istanbull and FA Cup"? those are the big games and moments which players get called world class for, the moments that set them apart.. You might aswell say what did Zidane ever do excludin the 1998 world cup final, winnin euro 2000 and scoring a wonder goal in the CL final??? total bollocks...At the end of the day this article has obv been written by a Chelsea fan who hates Gerrard due to every1 except Chelsea fans rightly stating that he is a far superior player to Lampard. Lets not forget th
by Miles on November 22, 2007
England are a laughing stock of Europe - step away from the football please, I'd rather watch curling than watch England. Can't string 3 passes together. Never could since 1990. Face it. Glory is out of reach for good, leave it to the germans and brazilians and Italians and Argentinians.
And i quote "Nothing changed after failing to qualify for USA 94, and nothing will change now", apart from the fact that England went on to qualify for every Major tournament there after, is that not a change from not qualifying? Your logic is ilogical and your analysis suspect. Unfortunately due to freedom of speech we can not stop people producing this type of article however without are replies, self-obsessed, egotistical, blinkered "authors" (i use the term loosely)like Jaimie will loose interest in writing articles only written to create negativity.
by Andrew, berkinhead on November 22, 2007
Heja lads.. Please, put this article to the side and stop arguing, coz this idiot is surely incapable of doing his job right. Isn't Gerrard a leader? Haha, i must laugh. Remember when he scored against Olympiakos in the 85. minute? or how about the time he scored against west ham in the 92. minute from 35 m out.? Or what about that time he scored against Milan in the CL final and later secured the penalty? Please you mug. ASK anyone who's EVER played with him. They'll tell you he's a great. Even Rooney called him the best player he's ever played with alongside Paul Scholes. He is fantastic. CAPTAIN FANTASTIC.!! And i, for one, think that David Beckham should still be captain. He is the one player who never gives shit perfomences for England.
by andy on November 22, 2007
Im not going to get into a big rant on this but just wanted to say dont waste our time with statements like "e does not have the strength of character, the fighting mentality or motivational power to be an effective captain and this has been proven time and time again for club and country"...Champs League 2005, FA Cup 2006? did you miss these games?
by Fats Fact on November 22, 2007
Lets address things Jaimie! You have had the gaul to attack Gerrard and have asked other people (in retort) to justify his billing when you can't justify George Best as a world class player by your own definition (sorry, he's an exception because he just is?). Last night in the first half Gerrard got stuck in and was running, defending and trying to create. The second half he played poorly, but was there a reason for this? Well the answer is our old mate "Fat Frank". Why did McMuppet take off Barry and leave Lampard on when it is painfully obvious to everyone that he and Gerrard can't play together (oh before you start scoring a penalty doesn't absolve him from the fact he barely moved last night). You have written your article in complete bias, picking the player you dislike the most, fitting that person into what you percieved you had witnessed and throwing any credibility to the wind. As for the BBC punditory last night, could you please tell me which of those experts has won a trophy for England or
by Dave on November 22, 2007
Try to consider for just a moment, that you hate Gerrard so much that it is impossible for you to write any kind of artical worth the time of any of the good people who may read it as long as it is based around SG. I'll be honest, it is very rare I read to the end of your articals anyway because people can see through them in 10 seconds flat. If you must infect the rest of the internet with your warped views, try concentrating them on another aspect of the team or game and give us all a break for a wee while.
...don't read them! It really is that simple. It strikes me as rather odd that people who clearly despise my opinions waste their time reading and/or commenting. If people don't want to read, they won't. Makes no difference to me whether people do or not. I just like to gauge opinion and engage in debate about LFC. And calling me a 'Gerrard hater' is just cliche and way too easy. I do not hate Gerrard at all. There is difference between literal 'hate' and 'fierce criticism'. I admit I am harsh on Gerrard, but I am entitled to be if I so wish, and I back up everything I say with reasons, instead of just saying 'Gerrard's a load of rubbish'. If you and others can't hack it, then that is your problem ;-)
Your poems are shite lol. You're articulate but your actual thought process is retarded.
by Kevin on November 22, 2007
are the pharmacy givin free xtc pills?? learn to use your mind my friend then talk
by magicspacemonkey on November 22, 2007
Lets face it, the "Author" knows he is providing a platform for the ill-informed/envious/retarded element to come on here purely to echo Jaimie's "unbiased observations"(sarcasm for those of you who dont get it). The fact that this element struggle to string a sentence together yet wholly agree with Jaimie, is damning in itself, we as readers have a choice, we can read the article, consider its points, analyse its validity and disect, however the "Author" also has a responsibility to ensure that the content of the article is accurate and any argument posed in said article be unbiased and will stand when scrutinised, unfortunately the "Author" has failed to observe grasp or apply these simple rules, deduce from this what you will.
by MELADO on November 22, 2007
Is's about time someone else noticed that stevie G aka I have it Gerrard is all hype and dosnt deserve to wear the England shirt , let alone the captains arm band ...
by shayne on November 22, 2007
That article is like bog roll, so could you send me a copy so i can wipe my arse with it. Steven Gerrard that says it all. If England won last night then tis stupid tricle would of bee on hole until they losed. Steven Gerrard is world class its true. You keep saying that he hasnt done it at international stage, but in fact he alredy has, youve taken all the negatives and created a stupid article. 1 player cannot do it on his own, thats why football is an 11 man sport. You mention Ronaldinho yeah hes good but not as good as gerrard. Difference is brazil has won the trophys end of conversation. Gerrard doesnt need to hear about how to lead ateam hes done it plenty of times FA cup Final Champions LEague final, Community Shield. England V Andorra and Maccedonia remember whom scord two to save engalnd, WHO??? Yeah Gerrard. Hes the nest around and in fact hes the 1st and last name to be tacken off that england team sheet. Steve Mclaren go the tactics wrong should of never played 1 upfront on his own and to have 5
by s on November 22, 2007
[quote]That article is like bog roll, so could you send me a copy so i can wipe my arse with it. Steven Gerrard that says it all. If England won last night then this stupid aricle would of been on hold until they losed. Steven Gerrard is world class its true. You keep saying that he hasnt done it at international stage, but in fact he already has, youve taken all the negatives and created a stupid article. 1 player cannot do it on his own, thats why football is an 11 man sport. You mention Ronaldinho yeah hes good but not as good as gerrard. Difference is brazil has won the trophys end of conversation. Gerrard doesnt need to hear about how to lead ateam hes done it plenty of times FA cup Final Champions LEague final, Community Shield. England V Andorra and Maccedonia remember whom scord two to save engalnd, WHO??? Yeah Gerrard. Hes the nest around and in fact hes the 1st and last name to be tacken off that england team sheet. Steve Mclaren go the tactics wrong should of never played 1 upfront on his own and
Who says so, you?! My articles are purely opinion. That is OBVIOUS. I can write what I like. I make inferences based on what I perceive, and if people don't like it, I couldn't care less! And Dave - have a ball! I'm a secure person - I couldn't give a monkeys if you slag off my writing in any medium! Carry on, if that's what flaots your boat. What you haven't answered (like everyone else) is WHY Steven Gerrard deserves to be called world class...
by Paul on November 22, 2007
Absolutely 100 % agree with you. Spot on article. Of course this will be lost on scousers and mentally challenged england fans because they don't understand football.
...Steven Gerrard has turned it on against the might of Andorra and the brilliance of Macedonia?! I take it all back - he's clearly world class! Oh, lets not forget the 5 goals he scored against Total Network Solutions in the CL quialifiers in 2005. I guess that makes him world class too!
by TONE on November 22, 2007
Why do they let special needs folk write articles on Sportingo? The person (was it a person, or 100 chimps on 100 typewriters?) who wrote this drivel has clearly never watched Steven Gerrard play a game of football, if indeed he's watched ANY football at all. Gerrard's leadership abilities are so plain to see that even Ray Charles could pick him out as a born leader..and he's blind..and dead. Stop letting remedials loose on keyboards Sportingo.
by jaimie makes me laugh on November 22, 2007
yeah jaimie you really got me fooled, you are such a secure person aren't you? so you're interested in gauging opinion but you don't care what people think....hmm??? yeah ok then jaimie that makes sense. i would just suggest that the problems you're running away from won't be resolved by spending your existance on here, instead your time may be put to better use if you looked up the meaning of projection in psychological terms(it may answer a few few questions for you). bye now
by george on November 22, 2007
this guy got banned from "this is Anfield" and the "empire site" and got knows where else, he's a nutter. Sportingo please take away his right to write here as well
by rossi on November 22, 2007
by Jaime on November 22, 2007
My banning from This Is Anfield was as a result of the same kind of intolerance to individual opinions that is shown on here. I had the temerity to suggest that Gerrard should be sold and, like a fascist state, I was censored for my views. It makes me laugh, it really does. It's also interesting to me how so many people make negative assumptions about me based on a view about football! Get over yourselves. The only people who looks stupid here are those obsessed with psychanalysis and throwing insults. Once again, if Steven Gerrard is world class, WHY is her world class?
by greg on November 22, 2007
im a utd supporter to the floor. I rate stevie g highly. the things i have seen that boy do when the chips are down are out of this world. Example fa cup final, cl final, recently aston villa away. to name a few. the whole point of this article is to debate so lets do that! without individual club bias but as football fans. up untill i read this article i would have laughed at the statement is he world class. but the guy does raise a very intresting point. what is world class. i do think the statement is branded on to many average players. to me world class is the ability to influence and change games at the highest level. also play the game the way they would in traning even in the most pressurised situations also they must have something in there locker that 99% of players dont have what is the highest level? the international stage. examples of undisbuted world class players today imho ronaldinio kaka chec messi ronaldo henry riqelme they all have something 99% of the population dont. players of the past
by Staffan on November 22, 2007
One thing is for sure. Steven Gerard is overrated. He is a bomber. Strong, fast, good shooting, good heading, good fighting spirit. But his passing, constructivness, technics and smartness have a lot more to ask.
by Brent on November 22, 2007
You say that the 'prime example' of Gerrard not performing when he gets to play his favoured position is world cup 2006.. first.. he wasn't in his preferred position, he was behind lampard, and second, he was the only england player to score more than once in the tournament ridiculous article
by more glaring inconsistences in jaimie's logic on November 22, 2007
[quote]My banning from This Is Anfield was as a result of the same kind of intolerance to individual opinions that is shown on here. I had the temerity to suggest that Gerrard should be sold and, like a fascist state, I was censored for my views. It makes me laugh, it really does. It's also interesting to me how so many people make negative assumptions about me based on a view about football! Get over yourselves. The only people who looks stupid here are those obsessed with psychanalysis and throwing insults. Once again, if Steven Gerrard is world class, WHY is her world class? [/quote]i'm sure you wrote an article suggesting gerrard should be more carefull what he says when discussing certain topics yet you yourself don't seem to follow the same advice. gerrard's comments were fairly mild and echoed what other footballing voices had said on the same matter yet you still castagated him for it, strange considering your articles ALWAYS sensationalist and often do not follow a consistant logic. so i find
by Gypsy warrior on November 22, 2007
The comments defining world class players i dont think are as simple as churning out names that perform on both levels. Does that make schevchenko world class? he scores for ukraine and was instrumental at ac. Look at him now. Players regularly perform at club level because they have more games and also have more time with team mates. Are you going to go ahead and say that because brazil played ordinary football at the world cup and hence none are world class. I am not saying that Stevie is def a world class player but I think ur categorizing of what is a world class player needs some work.
by NATURE OF THE BEAST on November 22, 2007
kanwar is still wandering the blog community in the ever desperate hope that someone will listen to his opinion...."freelance journalist" = unemployed loser.
by k on November 22, 2007
when has kaka ever performed on an international stage yet people say they are worldclass
by joe on November 22, 2007
Like a fascist state, are you a complete prat, its a blog, you were banned because you are an annoying t**t who just hates gerrard for some reason. One other thing you keep prattling on about the days of shankley and paisley, you were born in 1977, what the hell do you know about it, and yet you deem to lecture those of us who at least saw some of that era on how Liverpool FC is a shadow of its former self. Find somebody else to hate, your attacks on gerrard have nothing to do with him as a footballer, its personal and sad. go and support Man utd or chavski, their fans turn on the players when ever anything goes alittle bit wrong, you will be more at home there
by Deian on November 22, 2007
Gerrard is world class, no arguments about it. Him, Kaka and Ronaldo would be a dream three in anyone's midfield. The truth of the matter is England's team is not that special, although not terrible. The premiership is so importand, and so much more important, that we don't really care that much about internationals anymore. To a real football fan, we hate international weeks. Cant wait for the weekend...real football!
by mark on November 22, 2007
I don't bother with your articales no more Jamie. I read your name at the top and just shake my head. Another mindless idiot. Do us a favor and don't bother son. You just annoy football fans.
by tennisfreak on November 22, 2007
I must say, you write the WORST articles in the world... You need a new profession
by bembs iceland on November 22, 2007
¨Gerrard does not have the strength of character, the fighting mentality or motivational power to be an effective captain and this has been proven time and time again for club and country¨ I have never read anything so stupid and to put it out there for everyone to read. com on man
by Chenge on November 22, 2007
gerrard found himself draggin, pretty much fully grown, supposedly england's best players, during the game, everyone had a bad game, leave gerrard alone, If terry was captaining the side and got the same performance and result ,would u have picked on gerrard or terry???? Enough players in this world, even world class ones would dread facing a team with gerrard, I bet during the croatian pre-match team talk, the coach told the players to watch out for gerrard, y, WORLD CLASS, enough said England need a proper coach who doesnt care about names and only talent, who's not scared to bench a big name, fair enough even if some1 like gerrard is performing bad, then show him the bench, rafa did something a bit similar to stevie, and wat happened, (i think we all know)... There's lots of great english talent being ignored just because a big name player has to play despite poor performances, and i think thats the problem with england at the moment
by icelandicred on November 22, 2007
I agree, this season Steve has not been as good as in past seasons. But that does not change the fact that he has carried Liverpool on many occations, LFC fans will love him for that to no end. The English national team is a different story, is that Steves fault, Beck´s fault. It is neithers fault. If real jurnalists were out there writing about the national team they would realize that even though the EPL is fantastic, the national team is not and has realy never been. One lucky world cup, the nation that gave birth to this game, 100 years of playing the game should tell you that there are NO WORLD CLASS SPORT JURNALISTS IN THE UK.
by ?????? on November 22, 2007
I dont know whu you borther writing such hurrendous articles. Get your football knowledge sorted out before you write thes articles.
by mint on November 22, 2007
Apart from Beckham a couple of years ago, England have not got any players at present who appear to be able to control games at international level. players need to have cool heads at this level and be clever with the ball. This group of players have ability but no balls.
by alec on November 22, 2007
you say gerrard has been consistently poor for his country, yet in my opinion he has played very well. he had been forced to play a number 4 role for a looong time under sven, and despite this, he managed to score in the world cup with having two shots, and lampard had the most in the tournement and scored none. mclaren finally gave him a more free role, and he single handedly won england match against andorra for us in march. he has had a run of poor form for a while, but you cannot possibly say that he is incapable of leading a team. he has proved time and time again that he is one of the best leaders in the world of football. idiots like you clearly think not, but listen to the quotes of other players and coaches from all over the world that say how great a player and model professional he is. get you head out your ass. i wish people with no football knowledge would stop writing on this page. pathetic. you dont deserve to have the liverbird next to your name.
I'm a Leeds fan with a degree in Journalism and I can say by a mile this is the worst sports related article I have EVER read. Gerrard is the best captain in the world, ask anybody with half a footballing brain. Have you forgotten Istanbul? The Gerrard FA cup final? Gerrards assist and goal against Russia? and the fact that in the whole of the qualifying Stevie is the only player who looks like he can be arsed to play? Poor article, I expected better on this site.
by K on November 22, 2007
You really need to give it up, TIA is laughing at you as usual
by Nidzer on November 22, 2007
I dont know why Liverpool fans click on this story. Not only is it clear that ste g is a world claas player but it is also clear that this website is just looking for hits... and on that note you have to congratulate them... but the article is utter bullshit
by idiot Jaimie Kanwar on November 22, 2007
Shite article written by a pile of shite, watch out when you step outside your door, and keep looking backwards
by West Derby Red on November 22, 2007
Re-arrange the name Kanwar and you get Wankar!!!!!! enough said
by spurs on November 22, 2007
i think most of u idiots missed the point its not that he thinks SG is rubbish it is that he is over hyped and not as good as the likes of Zidane which is true he just doesnt have that ability
by Owen Dawson on November 22, 2007
Jamie there is a common theme running amongst of your posts and articles on the net - your dislike of Gerrard. Understandably, as a Liverpool fan you didnt like the fact he almost went to Chelsea, but you dont give Gerrard the credit he deserves for staying. Unlike most other players who were gripped by the thought of Roman's millions and the promise of easy league titles, Gerrard stayed with the club he was raised with, even though his odds of winning the Premiership are significantly slimmed as a result - and that deserves respect in my opinion. As for his playing ability. I quite agree he had a very poor game and he hasnt had his best season. He also has his weaknesses, as every player does you're right he is not going to sit back and cooly stroke the ball around like Fabregas. But what he has offered in the vast majority of matches he has played in during his career is a determination greater than any other world class attacking midfielder and the ability to carve through a team when running with or on
by Jim on November 23, 2007
Gerrard Had one of his better games for England i think and he did try more than most out there it didnt help haveing a clown of a manger and picking an entire crap back line including an inexperienced keeper. but it is true to say that Gerrard hasnt had the best times playing for his country, but i dont think thats to say he isnt a good captain he just couldnt rally the troops for England. lets point the finger at some that deserve to be blamed - Carson, Richards, Campbell, Lescott, Bridge, Lampard, SWP, Barry. All of which didnt even run or try enough for a game of this magnitude. But i ask the question of why this Clown of a manager didnt select more able players like Brown & Hargreaves 2 players that do not stop and have had many big game experience and no doubt would have made the defence more formidable. the real muppet is McClaren and to play at home in a more defensive role is unforgivable
by zekk67 on November 23, 2007
Why is Gerrard taking the blame? He was there as captain because someone refuse to do the job. True, you might argue that Terry was injured, but 2 days before the game, he started training with the team to "motivate" them. Suddenly, when it comes to this crucial game, many Man U players pulled out due to injury. They must have gotten into the same car and met with the same accident, or it must have been something Ferguson fed them with. Bear in mind that these so-called "injured" players would come back fully fit for their clubs on the weekend. Coincidence isn't it. Makes you wonder, are they 1) really injured 2) instructed by their managers to report injured 3) chose not to play so they won't be made scapegoats when England lose 4) or is it that people like Terry, Ferdinand, Rooney simply could not take the pressure. It really makes us wonder where these players' loyalty lie, club or country.
by mamie jaimie on November 23, 2007
u dont know about football dont talk about football. who got sacked last night, deserved that. tactic man. i'm playing football manager not football captain. u no brain to talk about football. waste of time. ask ur nanny about football first before talking about football. bustard jaimieeee
by Bemused on November 23, 2007
Someone asked the question what did lampard contribute? Well for the 3rd goal Gerrard was on left of midfield lampard the right. Lampard needlessly wandered over to the right wing in a half assed effort to track the already coverd run down that side leaving the player he should have been marking free inside. Seeing the gap gerrard tried to get over to cover but couldnt do so before the shot came in. Thanks Lampard for being absent the entire game apart from the penalty. (Lamps,Bridge, Barry,Carson, SWP 4/10)(Gerrard 6/10) (Crouch 7/10) The rest 5/10. How is gerrard expected to cover for both barry and lamps. He may not have been great but was everywhere on the pitch that the rest of midfield was absent.
by Túlio Borges (Liverpool Fan from Brazil) on November 23, 2007
Mr. Kanwar is nothing but a Gerrad-hater, whatever his so-called reasons for that. As for his ludicrous claims that Gerrard hasn't delivered enough to be considered a world-class player, isn't the Champions League one of the highest stages? When Gerrard rightly expresses his patriotism, Kanwar loves to remind us that Milan or Arsenal are greater than Macedonia or Trinidad and Tobago. Nevertheless, when it is convenient, of course, he erases the memories of what Gerrard has done for Liverpool in the Uefa Cup or the Champions League. Worse than that, Kanwar defends standards of grace, humility, class, pass and move, fairness, work ethic etc. So far, so good. Yet he fails to see that Gerrard is the very embodiment of these virtues. He is a true gentleman, who's led his mates by example throughout his captainship. Does listening to Chelsea's proposals change that? Of course not. By clinging to an irrational grudge against our captain, Kanwar disrespects the very standards he claims should be observed by the
by Túlio Borges on November 23, 2007
By clinging to an irrational grudge against our captain, Kanwar disrespects the very standards he claims should be observed by the LFC Community.
Just before this year's Champions League Final, Mascherano, who definitely has a very strong personality (hence his nickname "Jefito") - and whom Kanwar considers a better midfielder than Gerrard - told the following to the Brazilian press: "Gerrard is a born leader. You just have to arrive at Liverpool to know who's in charge". How can you argue against that, Jaimie Kanwar, you lunatic? That's why you belong in Samuel Fuller's "Shock Corridor". Hence the title of my posts.
by you need a bullet on November 23, 2007
dude, get a life. about as BS as they come. looking at you're related articles...i can see you hate stevie g...what did he do; hit on your girlfriend in HS or some crap?
by aussie roy on November 23, 2007
Gerrard along with the others are pros and know their job unlike the fool that wrote this article youve obviously never watched a game in youre life.
by Tim on November 23, 2007
So Diouf would be world class by that reckoning, he had a great world cup but couldn't cut it in the premiership, Veron great world cup no where in the premier league. There are heaps of players who were great for two weeks at a major tournament and are and were proven to be shit in the PL. David Healy should be the most expensive player in Europe as he has the most goals in qualifying, but he is average and plays for fulham? Its a silly argument. International games are not as high a standard as the CL or even the top leagues in Europe. Reason is you because of the nationality of players you can't assemble the best money can buy for your country and they don't play together for combinations all the time. Your argument is poor and all your anti liverpool articles are hilarious as you clearly dont know what your talking about.
[quote]Just before this year's Champions League Final, Mascherano, who definitely has a very strong personality (hence his nickname "Jefito") - and whom Kanwar considers a better midfielder than Gerrard - told the following to the Brazilian press: "Gerrard is a born leader. You just have to arrive at Liverpool to know who's in charge". How can you argue against that, Jaimie Kanwar, you lunatic? That's why you belong in Samuel Fuller's "Shock Corridor". Hence the title of my posts. [/quote] Yes he is a leader for Liverpool because of the players surrounding him, but when there are better players surrounding him its not the same he isnt the main focus so it hinders him... much like Henry.. having said that i think he ran alot during the game and was one of our better players
[quote]Why is Gerrard taking the blame? He was there as captain because someone refuse to do the job. True, you might argue that Terry was injured, but 2 days before the game, he started training with the team to "motivate" them. Suddenly, when it comes to this crucial game, many Man U players pulled out due to injury. They must have gotten into the same car and met with the same accident, or it must have been something Ferguson fed them with. Bear in mind that these so-called "injured" players would come back fully fit for their clubs on the weekend. Coincidence isn't it. Makes you wonder, are they 1) really injured 2) instructed by their managers to report injured 3) chose not to play so they won't be made scapegoats when England lose 4) or is it that people like Terry, Ferdinand, Rooney simply could not take the pressure. It really makes us wonder where these players' loyalty lie, club or country.[/quote] Ferdinand was suspended u ponce and as if Rooney wouldnt play for his countr
by jt on November 23, 2007
the whole england has been shite for the last 40 years.
by Kev on November 23, 2007
Whoever wrote this article obviously does not watch football. Did you watch the Istanbul match or the Liverpool West Ham match. He against all the odds displayed brilliant leadership and ability.
by abol on November 23, 2007
"To me he is one of the best midfielders in the world" - Pele. icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk. Retrieved on 8 June 2006. " Brazilian legend Pele feels Steven Gerrard has been the world’s best player over the past five years. Gerrard has proved to be the heartbeat of the Liverpool side and England side in recent seasons and has played an instrumental role in the club’s success. He was a pivotal figure in last year’s UEFA Champions League triumph and produced a two-goal salvo in the FA Cup final against West Ham United in May. His exploits have also seen Gerrard finish third in the 2005 European Footballer of the Year poll and pick up the PFA Player of the Year accolade. Pele believes that Gerrard does not receive the recognition he deserves because he is a midfielder, rather than a forward."
how can you write something like that "Liverpool LOSER Steven Gerrard" pretty sure thats hatred.. i wish i know where u stayed
by Nel on November 23, 2007
A foreign takeover, Gerrard? Liverpool skipper's attack is xenophobic claptrap How Liverpool failed Momo Sissoko Why Steven Gerrard's not worth a place in Rafa's best Liverpool XI How long will Liverpool fans stand for Benitez's vendetta against Peter Crouch? Liverpool loser Steven Gerrard is NOT a world-class player - or a good captain your previous "articles" piss off and stop being an idiot
by hendra on November 23, 2007
in making a rubbish news increase your site visitor
by Goldy on November 23, 2007
My friend I think you better take up watching another sport, because you know nothing about soccer. Steven Gerrard is the best player in the world in hisposition. He has proven time and time again with Liverpool that not only does he have good leadership skills, he has skills that not many other people have. His ability to win a game single-handedly is unrivalled. Go back to watching Kasparov playing chess, cos you know nothing about soccer. England as a team are useless, that's not Gerrards fault, he is part of the team agreed, but with the correct formation and a better manager, one preferably with some international experience, England could do alot better.
by Ravi G on November 23, 2007
I think u had too much of gin or hate liverpool!!! what's up
I think u had too much gin or u hate pool. Either way no one needs to give a rats ass to your comment
by george on November 23, 2007
Gerrard was unbelievably poor in the two biggest games of England's qualifying campaign, both where he was made captain. But that's not the real trouble with him. Instead of examining his leadership, why not look at his football ability as Jaimie has. He has very little tactical nous, his passes are always forward and usually over 40 yards, the one's that are shorter than that are inevitably drilled into his teammate's feet with ridiculous pace. His first touch is poor and he lacks positional discipline. Rafa can see this and it's why he's so averse to playing him the middle of the park. He's a good player and can cover up his deficiencies against the smaller sides and become the media darling with the odd wonder goal, but the fact of the matter is he lacks some very fundamental skills for a central midfielder who is supposedly 'world class'. Kaka et al put on a clinic in the first CL final they met in, it wasn't til Hamann came on and Gerrard got moved out of the middle that Liverpool got back in the m
by mark on November 23, 2007
England has been weighed they have been measured and they absolutely have been found wanting. simple said"they had it coming" Good luck and God speed
by Roland G on November 23, 2007
Gerrard is being singled out which is unfair on the lad. The truth is that he was poor but so was the rest of the team. He cannot do it on his own. While he was the captain, the expected captain's performance in the face of adversity was absent. The defence was absolutely hopeless and gifted Croatia all 3 goals. At international level, you pay for missed opportunities and mistakes. England had opportunity but failed to convert them. football is still a team sport. England need 11 players to turn up and only crouch did. Simply not good enough. As for Gerrard not being world class? i'm not sure what qualifies you to make that assertion but when you have players like Kaka and Ronaldinho singing Gerrard's praises, you gotta believe the hype. They have won it all in the game and achieved everything. Who can argue with them?
by Griff_dnb on November 23, 2007
So are you Kermit or gonza?
by melissa (SA) on November 23, 2007
Steven Gerrard is a better leader than David Beckham ever was or John Terry will ever be. Everybody knows that Puppet McClaren shortcomings as a coach reflected on the pitch- a bad strategy will never win a game!!! It is also common knowledge that him and Lampard cannot play in the middle of the park together- and Lampard has been horrible this season (even though he has the odd deflected goal)Any coach in the world would love to have Steven Gerrard in the midfield. So which English club do you support- cos this article is definitely an anti-Gerrard, anti-Liverpool rant... Get your facts in order and respect one of the best players England will ever see!!!
by james on November 23, 2007
I really cant believe you're singling out gerrard, i mean after all, we were 2-0 down. It was Gerrard that got us back to 2-2 he motivated his team! so don't go saying hes got shite leadership qualities because just like the CL final HE got the team back, it was just unlucky that the players around him couldn't be the same class as him, because then they would have won 3-2 nuff said
by Steve on November 23, 2007
Quite simply there's only been 1 world class player in recent times and that's Zidane. Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Ronaldinho, none of them are world class. But what does it matter??? The english team have some exceptionally good players, whether world class or not, and it shows the inability of a manager to put them in a system that works. It didnt happen, and we didnt qualify. Just sounds like you want to make Gerrard a scapegoat for it all. Did we play any better at home to Macedonia when Terry was captain? He's even worse.
by MAGICSPACEMONKEY on November 23, 2007
[quote]Who says so, you?! My articles are purely opinion. That is OBVIOUS. I can write what I like. I make inferences based on what I perceive, and if people don't like it, I couldn't care less! And Dave - have a ball! I'm a secure person - I couldn't give a monkeys if you slag off my writing in any medium! Carry on, if that's what flaots your boat. What you haven't answered (like everyone else) is WHY Steven Gerrard deserves to be called world class...[/quote] 1) you have admitted your observations are biased therefore not based on fact, but opinion based on your own "ability" to be analytical of a players ability. 2) had you taken the time to read my previous posts you would have read that i have given a sound and well constructed fact as to why Gerrard is labeled as world class, but just to repeat myself, the players/coahes/managers that have worked with Gerrard have realised and have identified through media statement of his ability and his standing in world football, this has also been ech
by Colin on November 23, 2007
Hmmm...Gerrrard is not world class beacuse he didn't carry the rest of the team but he should have done beacuse some people think that he is world class...Huh! You use George Best as an example of someone who was world class but he never managed to get his team anywhere! Surely that means that George Best is not world class! That doesn't work as logic! Some of the other world class players did have some other pretty good world class players around them giving them a helping hand occasionally. World Class is doing things on the big stage in the big games...surely the Champions League qualiifes for that....the majority of the top players in the world play in the Champions League and Gerrard has captained Liverpool to 2 finals in 3 years. No other England player has managed to do that! He was rubbish the other night against Croatia but then so was everyone and if England think that they can pick a team with second rate defenders and not move heaven and earth to put a player as good as Jamie Carragher into th
by Jaimie on November 23, 2007
I would just like to point out that the headline was written by Sportingo, NOT ME. My original headline was "Croatia debacle reinforces that Steven Gerrard is not a world class player'. I would never say 'Liverpool LOSER Gerrard'.
by u r a ballbag on November 23, 2007
go suck cock u paedophile
by Hman on November 23, 2007
You must obviously believe some of the rubbish you are writing jamie....however,lets look at some of the facts first shall we? you harp on about 'world class players doing it consistantly on the world stage, winning world cups etc but how many of the current world cup/european champs winners would you class as true legends....I think even you would struggle to name any in the same breath as the list you rattled off in previous posts. Also you rave on about how bad a captain and player steve g is but even a non footballing expert like myself is able to recall that he was not captain for all 12 of the qualifiers (or do you blame him for those inept performances too?) Finally, you try to argue that you are trying to argue that you are doing this to try and return to the old ways and previous lfc history and managers, true, the 70's and 80's were indeed a special time but football has moved on considerably now and become big business. Not sure if you are indeed a lfc ticket holder but your mates must love sittin
by Bradley on November 23, 2007
Im sorry to say but after reading your comments about gerrard i think you are blind and do not know a single thing about football dont get me wrong like you said about gerrard you can talk a good game but if you for one second think that steven gerrard is not world class then you are very much mistaken. Time after time he has produced the goods when liverpool have needed him champions league/fa cup final ect and for him not being a very good leader you just need to ask the players he plays with im sure they have more of an idea than you mate the likes of xabi alonso/ fernando torres and mascherano and have all said that they have never seen a better player in the WORLD than gerrard and they train with him day in and day out! i understand he didnt deliver against croatia and like every englishman im heartbroken but the blame cant go on just stevie the whole squad where dreadful with the exception of crouch and beckham when he come on in my opinion. So i think you need to look at the facts before you start com
by humayun on November 23, 2007
well i object what u said about gerrard. he did not played well but it wasent his fault that england got eliminated.terry was captain for most of the campaign and it should not have had come down to last game any how u say these are excuses that he was played out of position and things then u say we will tell about gerrards performances in finals etc so my dear you are closing all the possible counter arguments that we can have its is not fair how can we slat him for bad performance and judge him bad by disregarding his class performances.now u said he didnt showed leadership qualities well,he was only steping in for terry and whoom would he have slated on the pitch LAMPARD? who was a disgrace in an england shirt i mean he scored froma poor penalty ok but my word every time the ball comes to his feet it looks like he is in trouble opposite to gerrard who misplaced passes at times but had space as he always has and thata sign of quality player.surely the most inspirationally performances of a leader in recent
by C.Downing on November 23, 2007
[quote]I almost got past the first line without laughing, but couldnt help myself. You tell me a better English midfielder that could do his job today (and if you say Lumplard, I will personally come to whereever u are at and kick the crap out of you). Englands 2 best players last night were Crouch and Gerrard, which says little as they were all sh*t. You write like a 4 year old kid and seem to hold similiar opinions on football also...[/quote] You talk crap, Gerrard is a waste of space.
by Scouse on November 23, 2007
I think that you are totally crazy. Gerrard was everywhere the pitch again. Instead of writin stupid articles, go and rent some dvds...
by magicspacemonkey on November 23, 2007
And now we see the "author" starting to take a deffensive stance, at which point will he try to convince us all Sportingo also replaced the the whole content of his article? its a shame we dont get as much text space to highlight the "author's" errors/inadequacies as the "author" has to display them.
by ken on November 23, 2007
For all his achievements at club football Gerrard perfomances for England have been poor. The guy who said he and Crouch were the two best players must have rose coloured glasses. In one pass Beckam did more than Gerrard did all night. The same can be said of Lampard he was just as poor, strutting around like a PRIMA DONNA. It doesn't matter who you support at club level only a blind man would support Gerrard after Wednesday. Oh for a Paul Scholes who can actually pass a ball to feet and has true vision. If we believe Gerrard is world class it just shows how low we have sunk in our assessment of footballers.
by odero on November 23, 2007
well u said it but who else could save england. lampard appeared only to take the penalty, i have read ur article and i nao b've u r a kid. grow up and reason like a man.
I just thought it was important to point out that I didn't write the headline - the headline has connotations that do not come from me. I'm busy working right now, but I will return to respond to all these comments later, and not in any kind of defensive manner. It is good to see that some people at least can get their point across like adults...
by Jaimie Kanwar on November 23, 2007
i am sorry to write this article...i am sorry ... i am a stupid guy.... gerrard, pls forgive me.... i willing to help you wash toilet and sweep the floor... plssssssssssss. i am a idiot man.... i confessed that i am stupid....
And now we see the "author" make his excuses and leave, i think it would be to your benefit you dont return, sometimes it is better to make your exit with what little shred of dignity you have than with non at all. It's o.k. though you now have a staunch supporter in Ken who also seems as inept at grasping truth's as you.
by Johnny The Fox on November 23, 2007
by Dave on November 23, 2007
There have been plenty of reasons already given as to why SG is world class, but if you need any more proof, have a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1yLy1SVnfg Pla yers who aren't world class CANNOT do this on a relativley consistant basis as Stevie does. 2 of my friends played with him at Whiston Juniors, friends who are blues. They say that even then you could tell he was a genious, I have seen home footage of one such game as proof for myself. Text book examples of what an attacking midfielder, a world class one, is supposed to do. Not only that, how many times has he grabbed a game by the scruff of the neck and either singlehandley won it, or provided the fire and ispiration to his team mates to do the same? Isn't that what a captain should do? A world class captain? You stated in one of your articals that the fact he can play anywhere does not make him world class. I beg to differ. As I said, he is a world class attacking midfielder in his own right. If he then becomes an excelle
by GreeceRules on November 23, 2007
Uhh, Jaimie, you're right... England hasn't won anything since 1966 and therefore hasn't had any world class players since then... But, please, could you name me 1, just 1, world class Greek player. Thank you Jaime, I'm sure you nwill. YOu rock!
excellent defender in the same game to keep our hopes alive, how ON EARTH does that make him anything else but one of the greatest players, captains, and a.m's in modern football? Yes, he has bad games, so does everyone. Get over it. You may think he is overrated, but you can't deny his skill and passion. Many games have been won because of him, just accept it.
by Belly on November 23, 2007
[quote]Why is Gerrard taking the blame? He was there as captain because someone refuse to do the job. True, you might argue that Terry was injured, but 2 days before the game, he started training with the team to "motivate" them. Suddenly, when it comes to this crucial game, many Man U players pulled out due to injury. They must have gotten into the same car and met with the same accident, or it must have been something Ferguson fed them with. Bear in mind that these so-called "injured" players would come back fully fit for their clubs on the weekend. Coincidence isn't it. Makes you wonder, are they 1) really injured 2) instructed by their managers to report injured 3) chose not to play so they won't be made scapegoats when England lose 4) or is it that people like Terry, Ferdinand, Rooney simply could not take the pressure. It really makes us wonder where these players' loyalty lie, club or country.[/quote] Ok who pulled out due to injury for this game? Rooney? think you'll f
by Eamon Gavin on November 23, 2007
Easy target, isn't he, our Stevie G. Never afraid to put himself in the front line and come back for more. Looking for England failures? How about Bridge, Wescott, Campbell,w-Phillips, Lampard, Defoe, Bent and biggest LOOSER of all McClaren. Beckham crossed one ball and was suddenly world class again. Great players still need good players around them. Stevie G had a load of sub-standard dross to play with. Has anyone ever seen a worse England performance than that of Wayne Bridge. What did the boss do? Right through the qualifiers he never knew what his best team was. England didn't fail to qualify on Wednesday, they failed in all the other game where the "boss" continually got it wrong.
Ferdinand suspended, rooney & neville injured, neither playing for man.u. brown,carrick,hargreaves all not picked by Mclaren. Get your facts right thicko biased scouser. we all know that Rooney would have played with a broken leg if asked.
by craig on November 23, 2007
hERE WE GO, i here the scoucers saying a "manure" fan, well hold your horses before you have a go at me READ WHAT I SAY. I CANNOT BELIEVE THE rubish you are shoveling, gerrard not a leader, are you really a liverpool fan or a evertonion in hiding. gerrard, has not performed on the international stage, what about istanbul did you see what he was working with no rooney, no owen, no terry, and put a rookie goal keeper in for the biggest match of the season, i cannot stand liverpool, but i write this because i remember you are the zenaphobic writer who wants to stiffle our baisc write to express an opinion, and i cant stand you more, if you are not careful and keep playing gerrard in the middle with that looser lampard, the same thing will happen to gerrard as what happened to scholes, he will get p*ss*d off and we will loose him in the interational team, like swen did with scholes, (p.s. if it was down to me i would not have either of them and put scholes and a holding mid fielder like hargreaves in the
Again it's Stevie G who has been hard done by is it? Yeah Lampard was crap as well but everyone boo's him for being poor, why not Gerrard who is just as bad? Shearer used to fantstic as Newcastle and wasn't surrounded by World class players. Gerrard used to drag Liverpool through games (a few years ago) and wasn't backed up by many (any?) WC players. So what is difference between Liverpool a few years ago and Enghland now? Nothing.
middle as scholes is master class. but sionce he is retired the best england player by a country mile is gerrard full stop.) by the way i hope you do not try to wash my opinion away and call me the usual liverpool gerrard fan, i support man u, why would i want to write this unless what you write is that much rubbish it cannot be allowed to just pass without retaliation
by Nikden on November 23, 2007
Bother Reading these Sportingo Articles.
mate, lets face it, the head line just graps peoples attention what about everything else, i notice you done mention figo or giggs, lets face it, they never won anything internationally because of a weak intenrational side, but lets face it both world class and infact master class, legends that will live on forever like george best and charlton
by Trond on November 23, 2007
I am a LFC supporter from Norway, an all thoug I have to say I do not agree with this article - I have to say I think You've got a point... SG has (in my wiew) failed to be a top captain to a certian degree. I do belive he is one of - if not the - best British midfielder around, but I don't think he takes enough responsibility as captain. Also I think this is a problem at Anfield. Look at his reaction when he was sub. at the Everton game... He had to have a talk with RB about why - and RB had to explain to the world why he was substituted.... Why? Also I think he has failed to deliver top drawer quality game - week in and week out - for a few seasons now. He had so mutch potencial when he was younger. He had so mutch "anger" in his game. He gave it all in every situation, and to me - this is the main reason why i fell in love with the lad.. Mutch of this - too mutch - is gone in his game. He hardly collcts a yellow card, and I'm sitting with the feeling he's not giving it all in every game anymore. The probl
by greg on November 23, 2007
Perhaps the Entire English team is rubbish. Has anyone considered that?
by delaney on November 23, 2007
hey jaimie have you looked at the bottom of this page & all the related articles? leave liverpool alone & go & write a mills & boon for all our sakes YNWA
.... The problem is how to sort this out.... I don't think SG would take it very nice if he lost the armband and - as the rest of the players - would have to rotate week after week... Sorry for my crapy english.. :-) BR Trond, Norway
What did the Geordies win with Mary Poppins? As much as England. I am a Liverpool fan and I do hate the little ginger one but would never deny his pure class. Ooh that hurt. Lampard couldn't raise a sweat in a sauna. Barry not much more that a Championship player. One last point, when did that England starting 11 previously play together. What manager in his right mind would put that back five together for the most important match of his career? England need a manager not another John McCrirrick (i.e. GAMBLER)
by Peter on November 23, 2007
Good article, a proper midfielder picks up the ball off his defense and plays effective passes to players in a better position as well as chipping in with goals. Gerrard on the other hand picks up the odd ball off his defense and tries a 50 yard cross field pass that 9 timnes out of 10 comes to nothing. The 1 time that it does pay off he's labelled world class and nobody notices how many incomplete passes he has made. Alonso runs the Liverpool midfield and Gerrard gets all the glory with the few goals he gets. FYI Lampard has scored more goals for England than Gerrard in less Games.
by Carl on November 23, 2007
United we stand, United we fall, something you should remember. OH and what qualifies you to judge the likes of Gerrard, i didnt see you on the pitch. Gerrard IS WORLD CLASS just ask the professionals, even Rolls Royces breakdown now and again.