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by Gary Evans on 25 November 2007
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Top businessmen are buying English football clubs. New millionaire owners, new mega-money stadia, TV coverage every day, it's all is looking very rosy. But for whom? Let's have a look at what could happen and how it could affect our national sport.
What about a British League? We all know that Celtic and Rangers would hold there own in the Premier League and their fan base would be massive. Maybe Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs too - if not the top flight, then a good shout for second tier. But would any Irish or Welsh clubs get into the top two divisions?
Oh I forgot, you can't have that (well, you can), but you lose the right to have individual countries for the World Cup and European Championships (which none of our teams qualified for) and you would have fewer teams getting into Europe each season.
You would only need one organisation running the game, so one committee of freeloaders (sorry the headless blokes in suits who make all the decisions, but whom you never see) instead of four or five committees. Now that sounds better, fewer people making decisions and getting well paid for what they do. What do they do? Makes you wonder, because no-one seems to take any blame when things go wrong.
A European League would also get some money in - sod the little games, let's only have major ones every week. Both the Milans, Juventus, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Celtic, Rangers and a few others. I'm sure the club owners would be happy with that. Now we are talking money!
With cheap flights, fans seem to be happy going to Champions League games, even if they are against 'lesser' opposition. But teams from Luxembourg and Andorra cannot fill our stadia when they play. And how would the likes of Tottenham, Newcastle, Villa, Everton and the others feel about being left behind? We've already heard that the Super Six have spoken about a breakaway. So they are talking and the thought must be there.
What about a World League? Eighteen of the world's top teams playing once every two weeks. Now that would be a great money spinner, particularly for the Americans whose mega-bucks businessmen seem to be investing in our clubs.
They would have to have a team or two in the World League. China and Japan both seem to have major importance, too, with our clubs' investment in superstores and pre-season friendly tours. The South American countries have the teams, support and players, but their financial situation has always been a problem. If this did happen, there are major money men out there who could buy a top team to get in that country.
There would be no away supporters as all games could be televised and games could be broadcast to the opposition team's home ground. I'm sure the British teams would sell 40,000 tickets just to watch on big screens in their own stadiums. And then there is the revenue from programmes, drinks and food. You could put a reserve game on before, as well.
Comments (21) by Cosimo63 on November 25, 2007 Think it is a very good idea in principle, feel it is a few years away yet. I support it. by art on November 25, 2007 what makes a big club? winning trophies. if the current top clubs leave their domestic competitions to only compete in a euro super league then there would only be 1 trophy to be won between all of them. it's better to win your domestic league than to be a mid-table team in a europe-wide league. by Gary on November 25, 2007 That is why leagues teams and league committees do not want to lose there big pay day teams, but the money owners could make from a World or even a European league, it shows it works, due the support of the champions league, with teams even saving players when playing domestic matches, as they know the money is there for top team matches. If you gave teams say 5 seasons to reach stadia, financial and winning domestic points to get into a Super League. by Warren on November 25, 2007 Great one ey? lets throw away over 100 years of football for some novelty sports comp. Screw derbys, forget struggling for relegation lets just have a big money maker.... which i believe most fans would oppose P.S would this 'committee' be FIFA? the FA might not be the best it could be but FIFA is appalling!!! Stick to reading The S*n mate by davie a on November 25, 2007 would be great 2 be involved in a europe wide league. by ruairi on November 26, 2007 Ireland is not part of Britain. by Paul Mc on November 26, 2007 Mhhmm, your idea suggests something interesting coupled with humour. I cannot see how a world league would work. Teams often get a lift from their fans and it 'makes for a great atmosphere'. You won't get Milan fans flying to Buenos Aires or Mexico every few weeks or for that matter a british side - it costs too much. Warren's comments about derby's and local rivalry is true - this is what makes football interesting - Old Firm, Manchester, Liverpool, North-East, London - all derby's, not forgeting Milan, Rome, Madrid, Istanbul, Athens etc. I'd rather watch Celtic v Rangers any day than Celtic v DC United........ I think the most sensible comment is regarding a European League. Its not unfeasible and Euro flights are more affordable now, being short haul. Football is about passion, not money, in the eyes of the fan. Football is about money, not passion, in the eyes of an Oligarch or US magnate eyeing up a lucrative club....... by Shane Robinson on November 26, 2007 Christ what a ridiculous article. One body to govern all? Who? The FA? The FAI?? Clueless. Ridiculous suggestion. The European Cup was re-formatted to become the Champions League to avoid the big clubs forming their own league, were you drunk writing this, amnoking something, reading Roy of the Rovers and Lord of the Rings simultaneously? by Shane Robinson on November 26, 2007 [quote]Ireland is not part of Britain.[/quote] Exactly Ruairi. Get it right Gary, we're not British so don't mention a British League then have us in there. Geography not your strong point obvioulsy by craig on November 26, 2007 everything you said is spot on, i think a european league is more likely. combine the money from the premier league and the champions league and thats enough for the money men already. (lets face it the far east pay for teams like man u arsenal and liverpool not bolton and derby, the tv sponcership rights would plumit for the premier league if the top clubs left) my top teams in there would be, man u, liverpool, arsneal, both the milans, juventus, real madrid,barca, valencia, porto, sporting lisbon, benfica, rangers, celtic, b munich, lyon, ajax, may beone oftwo others, make it in to a 40 game a year season, man u, liverpool etc could still play in the carling cup and fa cup whih in turn wouls benifit from much increased sponcership domestically any way as it would be the only chance to see out best domestically. (by the way no chelsea, the teams i mention have built the selves up over 50 years or more, in to the teams they are, they have history and triumped though adversity (munich air disaster/hilsborough by craig on November 26, 2007 etc etc) a fat siberian chq book and two premierships do not give you the right to rub shoulders with the likesof real madrid and barca by Andy H on November 26, 2007 airi & Shane Robinson. Shane it's funny you talk about geography but obviously know little about the country you live in. That's of course assuming you live in the UK. Even Northern Ireland is part of the UK, if you look at a map of Great Britain you'll see an island to the left of Britain, that's called Ireland. Northern Ireland,it's the bit at the top actually forms a part of the UK. Home Nations is a term used to refer to the four constituent countries of the United Kingdom — England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland — collectively but as separate entities. Now you'll see the name Ireland there. Ireland is an island split into two, the Republic of Ireland, a sovereign state, covers five sixths of the island. Its capital is Dublin. Northern Ireland, part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, covers the remaining sixth. Its capital is Belfast. I'm not trying to ridicule two people for whom geography is obviously not a strong point but lets not get that in the way of the fac by Shane Robinson on November 26, 2007 Thanks for that, when you're done rambling on, you'll notice that the Republic of Ireland is in fact not a part of Britain as you pointed out yourself a few times. What you have really done there is just highlighted our point so I fail to see where you are coming from. If you are trying to educate Gary and the rest of the readers as to why we are not a part of Britain I commend you, you have done it in far more detail than Ruairi and I. I have to disagree on one point though, you say if I was looking at a map of Britain and I looked to the left of it I would see Ireland, not if we were looking at a pre 1974 mao I wouldn't. You were being so precise it's a shame with all your so called knowledge you didn't mention that. Geography lesson? You cannot ignore the history either, back in your box please. Quite why you went to such great lengths to highlight this does perplex me somewhat but I am sure you have your reasons. Good lad by Gary on November 26, 2007 I'm pleased to see my article has raised a few comments,the main one seems to be that I mentioned Irish in it. I was including both countries, when writting it. The facts are why are foreign businessmen buying into British foortball (Scotland have a couple of them as well)when the have there own countries leagues. Is there a plan to make even more money out of us the fans. by Gary on November 26, 2007 I'm very much aware of the fact that history and local communities have made our game the envy of most nations, but to say things cannot or will not change. The game has gone from the fans, who use to stand in the ground and have a pie and a bovril. Go back 40 years and ask them if they would see all seated stadiums, referees with hearing pieces, football beamed live into your house via satellite links, or go to the your local pub to watch the game, or even fans flying in from aboard with season tickets. They would think you had been reading Roy of the Rovers and Greoge Orwell's 1984 (published 1949) by bla on November 26, 2007 Bad Idea by Seif Henry on November 26, 2007 From England to Japan to South America all in three weeks doesn't sound too difficult. Considering players nowadays are completely immune to fatigue, this will be no problem. by Pete F on November 27, 2007 I don't know really- what do we have the champions league for? It pits the best in europe and as for a world league, maybe we can have a world club cup, which is spread across a season or summer every 4 years instead of just a couple of days in winter! We have to keep a home league - it's tradition. by anto on December 03, 2007 in essence, amongst all the larger teams with the piles of money needed to import international stars, the top half-dozen or so of all the major leagues, are perrenial contenders for Champion's League. Since they can expect to qualify most years, have money, and have a different player pool from their fellows in the domestic league, aren't they already lumpable appart from them? And into a class of their own, a pan-europe "leauge"? by enoch ofosu on December 03, 2007 ples i am aboy of 10 yes and my father is dead and i staying with my uncile who is a taxi driver . i will like you to help me so that i can play your jenior team . please i will tell you every thing when you replay and even send you my football pic and my father coff pic for youn to see it . please i need you help. i beg you in the name of almighty God ples i need you help please by Gary Evans on May 23, 2008 It seems for fans of Man United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal, wouldn't like the competion from other clubs who would send them own any new league. Please enter E-mail accountPlease enter CommentThe text you have entered from the picture is not correct. Please try again. Add your comment here PERSONAL ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED First Name Last Name Email Show my email on site Heading Display your favourite sport or football team badge with your comment. Sport Select sport... 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Comments (21)
by Cosimo63 on November 25, 2007
Think it is a very good idea in principle, feel it is a few years away yet. I support it.
by art on November 25, 2007
what makes a big club? winning trophies. if the current top clubs leave their domestic competitions to only compete in a euro super league then there would only be 1 trophy to be won between all of them. it's better to win your domestic league than to be a mid-table team in a europe-wide league.
by Gary on November 25, 2007
That is why leagues teams and league committees do not want to lose there big pay day teams, but the money owners could make from a World or even a European league, it shows it works, due the support of the champions league, with teams even saving players when playing domestic matches, as they know the money is there for top team matches. If you gave teams say 5 seasons to reach stadia, financial and winning domestic points to get into a Super League.
by Warren on November 25, 2007
Great one ey? lets throw away over 100 years of football for some novelty sports comp. Screw derbys, forget struggling for relegation lets just have a big money maker.... which i believe most fans would oppose P.S would this 'committee' be FIFA? the FA might not be the best it could be but FIFA is appalling!!! Stick to reading The S*n mate
by davie a on November 25, 2007
would be great 2 be involved in a europe wide league.
by ruairi on November 26, 2007
Ireland is not part of Britain.
by Paul Mc on November 26, 2007
Mhhmm, your idea suggests something interesting coupled with humour. I cannot see how a world league would work. Teams often get a lift from their fans and it 'makes for a great atmosphere'. You won't get Milan fans flying to Buenos Aires or Mexico every few weeks or for that matter a british side - it costs too much. Warren's comments about derby's and local rivalry is true - this is what makes football interesting - Old Firm, Manchester, Liverpool, North-East, London - all derby's, not forgeting Milan, Rome, Madrid, Istanbul, Athens etc. I'd rather watch Celtic v Rangers any day than Celtic v DC United........ I think the most sensible comment is regarding a European League. Its not unfeasible and Euro flights are more affordable now, being short haul. Football is about passion, not money, in the eyes of the fan. Football is about money, not passion, in the eyes of an Oligarch or US magnate eyeing up a lucrative club.......
by Shane Robinson on November 26, 2007
Christ what a ridiculous article. One body to govern all? Who? The FA? The FAI?? Clueless. Ridiculous suggestion. The European Cup was re-formatted to become the Champions League to avoid the big clubs forming their own league, were you drunk writing this, amnoking something, reading Roy of the Rovers and Lord of the Rings simultaneously?
[quote]Ireland is not part of Britain.[/quote] Exactly Ruairi. Get it right Gary, we're not British so don't mention a British League then have us in there. Geography not your strong point obvioulsy
by craig on November 26, 2007
everything you said is spot on, i think a european league is more likely. combine the money from the premier league and the champions league and thats enough for the money men already. (lets face it the far east pay for teams like man u arsenal and liverpool not bolton and derby, the tv sponcership rights would plumit for the premier league if the top clubs left) my top teams in there would be, man u, liverpool, arsneal, both the milans, juventus, real madrid,barca, valencia, porto, sporting lisbon, benfica, rangers, celtic, b munich, lyon, ajax, may beone oftwo others, make it in to a 40 game a year season, man u, liverpool etc could still play in the carling cup and fa cup whih in turn wouls benifit from much increased sponcership domestically any way as it would be the only chance to see out best domestically. (by the way no chelsea, the teams i mention have built the selves up over 50 years or more, in to the teams they are, they have history and triumped though adversity (munich air disaster/hilsborough
etc etc) a fat siberian chq book and two premierships do not give you the right to rub shoulders with the likesof real madrid and barca
by Andy H on November 26, 2007
airi & Shane Robinson. Shane it's funny you talk about geography but obviously know little about the country you live in. That's of course assuming you live in the UK. Even Northern Ireland is part of the UK, if you look at a map of Great Britain you'll see an island to the left of Britain, that's called Ireland. Northern Ireland,it's the bit at the top actually forms a part of the UK. Home Nations is a term used to refer to the four constituent countries of the United Kingdom — England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland — collectively but as separate entities. Now you'll see the name Ireland there. Ireland is an island split into two, the Republic of Ireland, a sovereign state, covers five sixths of the island. Its capital is Dublin. Northern Ireland, part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, covers the remaining sixth. Its capital is Belfast. I'm not trying to ridicule two people for whom geography is obviously not a strong point but lets not get that in the way of the fac
Thanks for that, when you're done rambling on, you'll notice that the Republic of Ireland is in fact not a part of Britain as you pointed out yourself a few times. What you have really done there is just highlighted our point so I fail to see where you are coming from. If you are trying to educate Gary and the rest of the readers as to why we are not a part of Britain I commend you, you have done it in far more detail than Ruairi and I. I have to disagree on one point though, you say if I was looking at a map of Britain and I looked to the left of it I would see Ireland, not if we were looking at a pre 1974 mao I wouldn't. You were being so precise it's a shame with all your so called knowledge you didn't mention that. Geography lesson? You cannot ignore the history either, back in your box please. Quite why you went to such great lengths to highlight this does perplex me somewhat but I am sure you have your reasons. Good lad
by Gary on November 26, 2007
I'm pleased to see my article has raised a few comments,the main one seems to be that I mentioned Irish in it. I was including both countries, when writting it. The facts are why are foreign businessmen buying into British foortball (Scotland have a couple of them as well)when the have there own countries leagues. Is there a plan to make even more money out of us the fans.
I'm very much aware of the fact that history and local communities have made our game the envy of most nations, but to say things cannot or will not change. The game has gone from the fans, who use to stand in the ground and have a pie and a bovril. Go back 40 years and ask them if they would see all seated stadiums, referees with hearing pieces, football beamed live into your house via satellite links, or go to the your local pub to watch the game, or even fans flying in from aboard with season tickets. They would think you had been reading Roy of the Rovers and Greoge Orwell's 1984 (published 1949)
by bla on November 26, 2007
Bad Idea
by Seif Henry on November 26, 2007
From England to Japan to South America all in three weeks doesn't sound too difficult. Considering players nowadays are completely immune to fatigue, this will be no problem.
by Pete F on November 27, 2007
I don't know really- what do we have the champions league for? It pits the best in europe and as for a world league, maybe we can have a world club cup, which is spread across a season or summer every 4 years instead of just a couple of days in winter! We have to keep a home league - it's tradition.
by anto on December 03, 2007
in essence, amongst all the larger teams with the piles of money needed to import international stars, the top half-dozen or so of all the major leagues, are perrenial contenders for Champion's League. Since they can expect to qualify most years, have money, and have a different player pool from their fellows in the domestic league, aren't they already lumpable appart from them? And into a class of their own, a pan-europe "leauge"?
by enoch ofosu on December 03, 2007
ples i am aboy of 10 yes and my father is dead and i staying with my uncile who is a taxi driver . i will like you to help me so that i can play your jenior team . please i will tell you every thing when you replay and even send you my football pic and my father coff pic for youn to see it . please i need you help. i beg you in the name of almighty God ples i need you help please
by Gary Evans on May 23, 2008
It seems for fans of Man United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal, wouldn't like the competion from other clubs who would send them own any new league.
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