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by Gerry Horsfield on 10 December 2007
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by Robert on December 10, 2007
Totally agree that some so called Fans are disgraceful. However, Harry needs to come clean about his part in the events. I sit opposite the dug out and Harry turned to the Holt and gave them a 2 finger salute. That is when he home fans started the substained verbal abuse. There is not justification to either, but there isn't smoke without fire.
by Jon on December 10, 2007
I saw the 2 finger gesture Redknapp made from the Holte. He looked like he was gonna burst, face as bright as a match stick. Dunno what they said to him behind the dug out but the chants we made were good. Suggesting he'd paid the ref, considering the erratic hapless perfomrnace of Riley, hardly surprising and neatly tied into Redknapps arrest for bungs, clever and witty really. Going down, going down, of course. there was more but the best, really and truely the funniest was Getting bummed in teh showers, you're getting bummed in the showers. Truely a classic, was laughing so much it was difficult to sing along. Detracted from the score too. i was glad we at least got Redknapp irritated.
by Oscar on December 10, 2007
Theres no use whining about it. Anyone be it a manager or player in football is going to have to take that. Its no diffrent to us singing '... and Karren Brady's a slaaaaaaaaag' at the blues games and I don't know about you but if I wasn't allowed to sing that at the Blues games I don't know what I'd do. Football needs imature loud mouths and shouting at the opposing manager is alot of fun.
by Ian on December 10, 2007
If this is the standard from now on, this site's going off my favourites list. Utter biased rubbish. He gave the V's and he knows it. Then he gave the three fingers and started getting involved. Have a look on YouTube to see the Tube swearing on national TV. He's just trying to soften everyone up - let's see the charges against him come in, and see his "I'm innocent" bandwagon go up a gear.
by ??? on December 10, 2007
You have this site in your favourites? It is possibly the worst sports site I have been on.
by James on December 10, 2007
Fair enough u don't like the chants. But is it anymore wrong then the pompy fans having ago at Barry or Carson for being involved in Englands cock up.
by Coeur De Lion on December 10, 2007
With respect Mr Horsfield there are certain things you have conveniently glossed over. 1. The 'filth' started AFTER Redknapp made a provocative gesture to the Holte End. I was sitting behind the dugout. The only filth heard before that was Harry himself calling everyone and anyone, from Players to the referee, C**ts. 2. The incident that kicked off Harry's tirade was someone shouting 'Have you paid the ref?'. Ouch! Please... 3. Harry has held a long time dislike of Villa since he was forced to replay a cup game against us for fielding an inelligible player when at West Ham. I know this because I have actually spoken to him about it when I lived in Portsmouth a few years back. I know people generally like Harry, I like him myself, but being a funny, bright character should not overshadow certain suspect aspects of his character. Anyone remember his tantrum at the suggestion he was disloyal for joining southampton just days after leaving Pompey? cos I do! harry has always bristled at the
slightest of criticism. Anyone remember Harry's tantrum when Pomepy appointed a director of football? Cos I do! And more recently does anyone remember Harry's downright refusal to answer a question which asked how his recent arrest sat with accusations on the Panorama programme? Cos. I. Do. Mr Redknapp should not be immune from criticism, and frankly, given the colourful language he uses himself, should not be so self righteous in condemning the 'filth' kids are hearing at a game. If he wants support, he should answer the questions. If he doesnt want to answer the questions, then he should expect the criticism. How long are we expected to claim that corruption only happens n Italy or eastern Europe? How long are we to claim that it doesnt exist in this country just because we dont want it to exist? This is our sport and i'm not happy with the image and name of the game being dragged through the mud. and I have a right to make that displeasure heard. Watching Medes kick his way round the pi
pitch without a single booking. Watching Pamarot drag Gabby a full five yards before the referee award a Pompey free kick. Those were just two of several questionable decisions. But we're not allowed to sing about them and we're certainly not allowed to tie those songs in with a very current affair in case we upset those involved. Well balls to Redknapps feelings! What about the game I love! The game that has been dragged through the mud with these allegations. Football is one of the few sports that allows its consumer base to vocalise displeasure. We're not happy with Redknapp, and now he knows it. After the tevez affair, the disgraceful way Mike Newall was cold shouldered in the game after blowing the whistle and now with this latest incident I'm sick of the accused being treated as some sort of victim. 'They arrested me over an agent fee which is nothing to do with me...' Thats right. The City of London Police travel all the way to Poole to conduct a raid at 6 in the morning even t
though the person has no connection to the crime. Bury your heads all you want but I've enough knowledge of the justice system to know that they've raided him for a reason. Having said all that (!!) I think one sentence probably would have sufficed. Redknapp has kicked up this fuss to take the focus off his own gestures to the crowd. And you, Mr Horsfield, have fallen for it.
by pablo_from_the_holte on December 10, 2007
Hang on a sec here. I never add comments to websites but feel this is needed. I am season ticket holder in the upper Holte. What went on was just normal football banter. We were 3-0 down and the ref clearly not liking us. A perfectly original chant in signing He’s paid the ref…Redknapp paid the ref. We then added you’re going down and then we can see that he is starting to get annoyed with it which then leads to you’re getting bummed in the showers. Personally, I feel this is light hearted football chant and is really making the situation light hearted. When Harry clearly over reacts and puts his fingers up at the Holte do we feel aggrieved and provoked. It is clear that Harry is desperate to get the England job and with this on his record, whether guilty or not will not land him the job. Hence he clearly overreacts and insults the Holte. This leads to the Holte chanting Redknapp, want a w***er want a w***er. Ok maybe not the most tasteful of chants but swearing is part of the game. I found it f
by tinker on December 10, 2007
The truth is old arry has been on the take for a long long time, I have personnel experience of it and so do a lot of others in the game(not transfer related, or a ref) aint no smoke with out fire. What a fool for he is for making such comments, its just gonna make it worse, who do they play next ;0 'hes going down, hes going down, arrys going down. We could always submit a complaint to the police about his finger signals, seems they like early morning visits to Sandbanks UTV old arry V
by GerryH on December 10, 2007
Harry (or any other manager, for that matter) would NOT have reacted as he did without the utmost provocation. There is no doubt in my mind that the Villa fans initiated the nastiness. Sadly, the attempts to justify their behaviour in these comments sum up the theme of my article - that yobbish behaviour has become part of the football fan's psyche. It just happened to be Villa fans involved here - but it could just as easily have been equally disrespectful supporters of any other opposing team. The comment by 'Oscar’ that ''football needs immature loudmouths and shouting at the opposing manager is a lot of fun'' sums it all up. I despair.
by andy5759 on December 10, 2007
Whatever happened to "sticks and stones etc". Grow up Arry. You've been nicked and bailed, you're innocent until proven guilty, but as said above; no smoke without fire. Come on supporters all over the land - sing your songs, get under the skin, wind up the opposition, after all that's what fans are for.
This is the very last time for me here. Well done, you, much like your baby of a manager, have twisted it.
by pompeyinoz on December 10, 2007
Lot of villa fans prejudging harry. from what i've just read, i expect some of them will want to be incontact with the cops to offer their evidence. hahaha. i dont think so. innocent until proven guilty. think the comments are more akin to loosing 3-1 than to any substance. yeh you are a rabble.
by Coeur De Lion on December 11, 2007
I'm afraid you've shown your hand Gerry. Despite eye-witness accounts and Redknapp himself admitting his post match comments were unwise, you stuck to your guns. A manager would NOT react without provocation? well he did, and theres nothing to qualify your statement. Turns out Ashley Young was receiving similar abuse saturday but he didnt resort to giving the two fingers.
by PCVilla on December 11, 2007
Gerry, what we heard on Saturday was just banter. 0-3 down at home and still up for a laugh, that's what being a Villa fan is all about. Supporting football is tribal, so intense rivalry will always be there. If you don't like it stick to cricket. Otherwise stay in your armchair and continue penning your pointless, out-of-touch articles !
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