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by Michael Perukangas on 11 December 2007
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by Craig on December 11, 2007
TO behonest if the option was manu win the champions league of england the european cup i would choose man u every day and well, i do feel for the english game to succeed the big boys need to give the highest level experiance of CL and winning the premier league to english, but on the other hand i really do not care about the english game, there is a cancer in the FA, the board!!!! in any other ofganisation if they failed in the way our board have done they would be out, but yet good for nothing half wits like brian barwick still have their jobs watching the games and enjoying the high life, well the english public suffer embarrseing defeats, then try to blame it on the clubs them selves, hers another way of looking at in instead of spennding a billion on wembly why not spend a third of that and renovated old wembly then spend the rest on an acadamy were you can concentrate on english youth, having the best stadium does not mean winning the world cup but haivng the best youth, i am sure people like rafa,
by craig on December 11, 2007
arsene and fergie would buy english if they were as good as foriegners, but they are not and they have a job to do, look towards the fat cats in the fa, one look at barwick and you can see he is incompetent, he needs to go, and after that rant there ends why i am happy wit my club and could not give a damn about england team, the more you care the more you will be upset by barwick the more your children will spend on there mercendice and the richer barwick will become, if anyway is going to get rich of my money let it be the glaziers at least we win thing under them
by Saxon Paige Vickers-Buckley on December 11, 2007
Sir, can you try to define your terms? UK / British / English are not synonyms. If it's English you want, that a priori excludes the Scots, Welsh, and all Irishmen (north and south). If it's persons foreign to Britain, that excludes the Scots and Irish but not the Welsh. If it's Great Britain, that excludes all the Irish north and south but includes the Scots and Welsh. If it's the UK of GB and NI, then only the Irish in the Republic are excluded. I'm not being pedantic, but as this is all about drawing lines and deciding whose in and whose out, we need to define for the purposes of football (only), who qualifies as a "foreigner" and who doesn't. My opinion is that "foreigner" would NOT include the Irish (north and south), the Scots, or Welsh. Given my own club was founded in 1880 as Gorton St. Marks by a woman called Anna Connell (slightly Irish name...??? LOL), and given it has been the consistent tradition of all the peoples of Britania, Hibernia and Caledonia to play together, I would resist any attempt
...to include the Irish, Scots or Welsh within the definition of "foreigner." This is not just about the PL either...the lower divisions and Scotland are being swamped by foreign players. Yours Englishly, me.
by Michael Perukangas on December 11, 2007
As a non-commonwealth citizen, I am the wrong person to make anything out of the confusion. Giggs is considered a local lad but still he plays for Wales. It is debatable, whether even Australians are foreigners.
lets face it, how can you say a scot is foriegn, or a welsh lad, if they go in the army they are fighting for britain, of the helath service they go to the nhs and they all spend the pound, i actually feel that northern irsih are the same as well, i do not actually know why we dont have a british team, i mean lts face it we have a british olimpics and common wealth, but also i wish to point out if you look at man u as a BRITISH TEAM, WE HAVE A BRITISH MANAGER, and these are the following players which are BRITISH, foster,neville, ferdinand,browne,simpson,oshea, fletcher,giggs,scholes,hargreaves, eagles, rooney,carrick, i dont think there is another team out of the top four which has such a strong BRITISH side
by SOL on December 11, 2007
how does having scottish, welsh and irish players help the england team, its not as if they are going to play for england. England is anation of defenders, a position where technique is not the most important thing. If more english players had the guts to go and play their football in spain and italy, england would have a good techincal team. and we also need an academy like all the other countries. its not about how many foreigners we have.Also english players are overpriced, theo walcott would probably have been 1million quid had he been from spain, france or any other country but instead he was 12million.what that about.
by amadu on December 11, 2007
Although it is true that manu has some british presence, no one can argue that it is the foreigners who make manu great. it is the foreign players who international football fan like myself want to see. Apart from Rooney and scholes the decisive player are Giggs (Welsh), Hargreaves (Canadian), Ronaldo (Portugal), Evra (France), Van der Sar (Holland) and more. Even Roy Keane (irish) is a foreigner. IF the quota system does not destroy Manu's chances in the Premiership, it will certainly destroy their chances in the champions league. Because in the Champions league every tem is required to field the best possible players availabe. When second class english players are forcefully played against teams like Inter Milan, Barcelona, AC, Real and many more, even the "great" Manchester united will suffer. foreign playas have more will to succeed this is cleary demonstrated at international level where a superstrong english team could not qualify for a major tournament. England simply does not have motivated playas.
Let me explain to the English how we foreigners view English football. We feel that within the top five (including man city) and tottenham the best football is played. A combination of foreign expertise in terms of players and managers has ensured that the teams in the top four , man city and tottenham play attractive football. Attractive football is the key to success no matter what anyone says. It requires less fitness as the ball does most of the movement and it brings the most out of players with attacking abilities. why has Arsenal bben poor for the last two games?. because they stop playing attractive football. why is brazil the most successful international team? because they play attractive football. What is unfortunate is that england does not have players who have technical ability. and this is due to their stringent coaches who teach their young players to play the long ball, foul unnecessarily, and not make passess.
by T.A.Zere on December 11, 2007
The English Football is the most attractive and entertaining in the world for it uses skilled legs and not nationalities
OK amadu i accept that manu have a great dependence on foriegn players but no disrespect mate but man u havs a very english back bone,. look at our defence neville/brown ferdinand, ben foster in goal,midfield hargreaves (he plays for england its as simple as that) carrick, scholes, eagles, and who can forget rooney, thats not including our BRITISH CONTIGENT. so its abit unfair to say we would fall apart, infact out of the top four we are best placed to weather the storm if a quta system came in. i do agree if walcott was from spain we would only cost 1 mil. and one last point to re enforce my point on british people ryan giggs has just recieved his OBE from the queen of england her self. i mean come on how british can you get, this arguement about england/wales/scotland it feels like you are splitting a nation
by Matthew Genner on December 11, 2007
"If a 'non-English' rule is to be introduced into the English game, then the price tags of the English players have to be reduced." The problem is that if you had to field a certain number of English players their price would be even higher as there would be a shortage around
by mike on December 12, 2007
I'm afraid your completely of the ball park Amadu. English teams before the Hysel Stadium disaster dominated the European cup Liverpool won it 3 times Aston Villa 1 Nottingham Forest 2 Man Utd 1 and on the otherside of the border Celtic 1 and this doesnt include the UEFA cup Cup Winners Cup or the old fairs cup this was done with english players prodominately although one liverpool side that actually lost in the final at Hysel only had 4 english players the rest where British. Now with all the foreign players we have as a nation have only won it twice in the 60's Best, Law and Charlton all won the european player of the year award no foreigner has every won it for Man Utd and the closet we have come in the modern era is David Beckham being runner up no foreigner besides Ronaldo has even come close . We may be getting better and more entertaining football but without a doubt its ruined the National Team I'm not saying England should win the internation competitions but we should qualify and the reason we are
by JonW 007 on December 12, 2007
Destroying one of the best leagues in the world for the sake of making the national team better will cause other national teams to suffer. It's not the prems fault that foreign players excel here. To lower the competition level by booting out some of the best players is unfair to the development of other countries national players. I don't think the FA have the right to favor English players just because we can't field a committed, well-coached national side in major tournaments. This whole issue is not the solution.. better grassroot development and maybe rolling some heads in the FA will change fortunes for the national side. Plus, personally.. I'd rather watch quality league football in England filled with top notch players from around the world than to watch an EPL with a who's who of England nationals in attempt to give our national team a helping hand.
by et on December 12, 2007
If the English are that good, they'd be bought by bigger foreign clubs, and everything will be good. The fact that English clubs are buying foreign and foreign clubs don't look upon English players highly tell us about the quality of English players. It doesn't matter if foreigners are limited in England; the quality will still be the same. First develop the youth properly, and the rest will sort itself out.
by skamp on December 12, 2007
You only have to look back at how much whiskey nose had to fork out for Carrick & Hargreves to understand why clubs go abroard
by John O'Shea on December 12, 2007
Craig, you made a comment that I am british. I am from Waterford in IRELAND. Get your facts straight.
by d on December 18, 2007
If I was manager of man utd or arsenal or chelsea then I wud buy the foreign players english talent is way to expensive plus mostly rubbish carrick 18m probs cud easly get a player less than half that price twice as good in europe english talent ain even that good how people can say england could win the next world cup is crazy if the english talent was really that great the likes of barca and real wud snap them up because still the prem doesnt have the best players kaka messi and ronaldo now says he wants to go to spain sometime the best players will still stay out of the prem because they no other wise they will never become the best players in the world thats why ronaldo wants to go to spain
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