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by Gerry Horsfield on 22 December 2007
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by Leonard on December 22, 2007
an article worth commenting on in Sportingo. Excellent article, Mr Horsfield. However it must be said that the majority of article in Sportingo seem to intentionally bait people into angry responses.
by jose walker on December 22, 2007
I totally agree with you but i think the cause of it is media based. The media say something about a certain part of the country highest drug abuse,gun crime ,muggings etc and these morons put it to a song that some "normal" fans get involved in the truth is there are good and bad everywhere in the U K but no one wants to believe they have bad so this nonsense goes on
by Peter Knight on December 22, 2007
Strange article..football fans were far worse in the '70s & '80s. All the aggro & insults were far worse. I remember being at a Chelsea v Fulham match in 1980 when the Chelsea crowd sang "Shankly is dead, hello, hello!" during the minutes silence for Shanks. Players will always be picked on for anything but for me the main issue is the media. They are the ones who stir it up & give fans ideas, then critise them for the abuse. Unfortunately football rivallry is about "us & them" & the clubs encourage that. As a Chelsea fan since the '60s it makes me laugh when fans of Reading etc, but all teams sing "where were you when you were s**t?" It's part of football but Chelsea haven't been s** for years & half these fans aren't old enough to remember those days, or the last time Liverpool were champions either, so it's a case of justifying there support!
by Bazmundo on December 22, 2007
If only life was black and white. Although I admire the author's intentions I feel it is important to defend freedom of speech. I dislike Sol Campbell and always will because he left my club and joined our rivals for nothing. I laugh at the fact he gets abused. I suffered abuse from gooners when he left but didn't have the opportunity to bleat about it in the national papers. Maybe what you are talking about is more of a political statement than it is an observation of sport. I agree that the education available to working class people is poor. Until we have true equality and no class system we will always have undesirables. If you think there are a higher number of undesirables than you would like, I suggest you get proactive in helping politicians to improve the education system. The Goverment's continued destruction of working class communities is the main cause of your problem. No one knows or cares about their neighbours anymore let alone caring about oppostion football players or fans. People need to b
by name on December 22, 2007
The corporal punishment and clips around the ear generations saw World War 1 and 2 So, bad example.
by j100 on December 22, 2007
wow! a well written and well though out article on sportingo. wonders never cease. thank you for this.
by harry the hornet on December 22, 2007
gerry this is a very good piece it'd absurd to think that if you happen to follow a different team to someone else you will be abused. and so-called fans give digraceful gestures to players just because they play for a team they don't like. but what do we expect when the players both on and off the pitch behave like the fans
by Gary King on December 22, 2007
Gerry, I admire the fact that you have even written this article. It is, unfortunately, a true reflection of the way it is at football matches these days. Being a Liverpool fan, we hate Everton & Man Utd, the clubs that is. Some people seem to think we have to hate the people who support these clubs, normal respectful people, Why? There is nothing wrong with a bit of rivalry, its quite healthy. But some people do take it a bit far sometimes and the press make sure that ALL football fans are made to look like scum! Good article mate.
by Carl Jung on December 22, 2007
and is something that can occur when humans come together in large groups. some psychologists say it has to do with losing of the identity in the cloak of the crowd. there is however positive effect that happens from time to time where the power of the group actually encourages better behaviour and a higher sense of moral responsibilty in ones actions, though occurances of this are less common than the negative form deindeviduation. if you understand this then it is far easier to explain crowd behaviour through out history whether in sports, public rallies, riots, revolutions and so on. this is not a footballing phenomenon.
by Essexian76 on December 22, 2007
A player can lie, cheat,deceive the very people who adore him and thats OK?, but when they respond in the only way they can then thats abuse?, utter and complete crap, Campbell knew what he was doing, he made money in an ad for pizzahut when Spurs captain before the 01 semi final extol the virtues of being captain of the lilywhites.If he is troubled by our abuse, then great! keep it up lads in fact lets up the volume when Pompey play at WHL
by craig on December 22, 2007
taunts that are racist or about disaters are totally wrong, i should be driven out of the game. but taunts about players or managers off the field antics are funny, fans should also expect people to respond to there taunts. banter at football is part of the game.
by silva.foxx on December 24, 2007
Roeder sums the morons up so accurately when he says: ''"They're saddos, real saddos, low-lifes. Animals don't behave like that. But what I've convinced myself, and what I know is right, is that it's good I'm still here to hear it." Animals WOULD NOT behave like that on any occasion. Respect for animals. Taunting is all part of the game these days... though I don't agree with it. What would happen if all these fans were put together to defend the British Isles? Harmony or hatred. Whatever - KEEP IT OUT OF FOOTBALL!
by Saxon Paige Vickers-Buckley on December 24, 2007
Er...and do you want to know who started the old plane impression routine? S'right, United fans THEMSELVES! Who got the blame for it? City fans. Though two wrongs don't make a right, clearly...at least not in this case. No mention here of United singing about Heysel or Hillsborough. No mention about United singing about Liverpool's terrible social problems of the early 80s? {"Sign on, sign on..."} No mention about United fans signing to City about going down like a Russian submarine (wonder what THAT can mean?). If you want to know WHY many City fans NOW do the plane impression or shout "Munich" at the Rags, or why we call them "Munichs", it is simple: their self-serving exploitation of the accident has led to this as short hand for "cynical hypocrites". Tell me how much United have given to the surviving family members? Er...unlike the whole world, we KNOW the Rags and we KNOW what's at the root of this. You all fall for it and pay obessiance to them if you like. Frank Swift died at Munich you know
I'll repeat myself: YOU ALL MAY THINK you know why WE shout "Munich" at the Rags: and you'd be wrong. We do it to wind them up because we have sussed them, and it is THAT that they cannot stand. How on earth can you non-City fans understand what is going on? You take things at face-value and believe what the journos and talking heads say? It's simple: Munich = Cynical hypocrites. Got it now? Just wait for the upcoming 50th derby since Munich where City fans will be intimidated into keeping quiet by those (such as here) who seem to think our minds are open to them as they judge our motivations. You haven't got a clue, any of you, so sit down and shut up.
by Rob Barron on December 27, 2007
The saddest thing about this thread is that some people genuinely think they can defend vile abuse and relabel it as 'banter'. Of course we have always had banter, but abuse is not the same at all. Laughing when an opposition player misses the goal, falls over, miskicks, whatever is common, funny and part of the game. Laughing that a player/manager/fan has a brain tumour, was killed in a plane crash, was murdered in a gas chamber, was crushed to death in a stadium, burnt to death in a terrible fire.... IS PLAIN WRONG. Seeking to justify laughing at these kinds of situations puts you in the same group as those who actually do make these vile comments.... MAYBE even show you to be part of that group, who knows. But let me ask all the people (thankfully the majority) who are rightly against personal abuse of others these two questions. Be honest now.... 1: When was the last time you heard someone shouting abuse at a football match? Bet it wasn't that long ago. 2: When was the last time you repor
by Daniel fwrf on August 21, 2008
BECAUSE ITS FOOTBALL! YES THERES INSULTS FOR EVERY TEAM WHEN THEY SING A TAUNT AT YOU, YOU SING ONE BACK! ITS ALL ABOUT A GOOD TIME....
SERIOUSLEY, ITS JUST ALL FUN EVEN THO THERE IS SOME BAD SHIT LIKE WHEN SOMEBODY DIES BUT BESIDES THAT ITS ALL FOOTBALL CHANTS ITS GOOD FUN..LIGHTEN UP
BUT YES ALL THE VULGAR CHANTS IE DEATHS, THE HOLOCAUST ONE ETC ARE ALL HORRIBLE THINGS AND SHOULD NEVER BE DONE BUT THE OTHER ONES TO DO WITH THE FOOTBALL TEAMS ARE JUST DONE IT GOOD FUN, THATS THE WAY I FEEL ANYWAY, HATE ON ME IF U WANT I DONT CARE.
BUT YES I DO VERY MUCH AGREE WITH THIS ARTICLE, ALL IM TRYINGTO SAY IS THE NORMAL FOOTBALL CHANTS THE ONES THAT ARE GOOD FUN IN MY EYES ARE OK ANY OF THE EXAMPLES U MENTIONED ARE HORRIBLE THOUGH AND SHOULD NOT BE USED AND AS FOR THE GAME BEING PLAYED BETTER BACK THEN I TOTTALYY AGREE THE GAME WAS ALOT HARDER BACK IN THE DAY, THE WAY IT SHOULD STILL BE.
by brett on October 25, 2008
all you that agree with this thread are arse holes your the type of people who would want liverpool to win the champions league final evan though you follow united just because there english In 1989 football clubs up and down the country wanted the terrace barriers removed from around the pitch, but the Liverpool fans were dead against it
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