Why Spurs' swoop for Cardiff kid Gunter puts Arsenal to shame

Bentley, Boothroyd, sidwell,Pennant,Stack, Taylor,Gray amongst others all who have gone to ply their trade in PL or Championship, The following players are there now and are been nutured by Arsenal Gibbs, J Hoyte, G Hoyte, Lansbury, Watts, , Gilbert, Simpson, Rodgers,Thomas,Cruise,Murphy, Bartley, Blackwood. Before writing articles get your facts in order matey. Your using comments attributed to the daily hacks that as we all know are rarely right. Yes we have foreign but we also have english, surely the 12 million we are drip feeding Southampton is more than the 10Million they got from Spurs? Also 6million for Wright?, 10million for Jeffers? I could go on but its like your artcle pointless.

Arsen has tried. How about Upson, Jeffers, Wright [ richard]Pennant and Campbel. Sidwell and Bentley were a bit to impationt the latter would be in the Arsenal team now if had held on for a little bit longer. There are still a number of other players playing in the english leauges that have benifited from Arsen wengers efforts as i am sure the same cam be said of Alex Fergerson. If they are goon enough and determind they will get there chance.

How on earth are Arsenal blocking British talent. Are they the only team in the EPL?. Of course not. Gunter is a decent player with a future but it would have been poingtless going toi Arsenal as he would have no chance of playing ahead of Clichy, Sagna, Hoyte or Traore who are already there. It's a questin of timing. Had he been available two years ago the Gunners may have been interested. As for your comment on Bendtner. He learned nothing at Birmingham technically. All it did was give him the stamina and strength to cope with the EPL on a regular basis. Birmingham took him because he already had ability, not becuause they wanted to coach him.

Perhaps if the championship sides were not so greedy in their demands when being approached by The Arsenal the players would get the chance to join. On many occasions fees have been quoted for players that have gone for much less after Arsenal have pulled out. It is not Wengers duty to be a gravy train for other clubs, just efficient in balancing the books of a club that has succesfully negotiated a massive investment in itself.

G4L_Harry - What you been smokin' boy? £10m for Jeffers? Is this the same Jeffers who was playing for Premierleague club, Everton FC? Yes, Everton are such paupers aren't they? What was that about Gerry having to get his facts in order?? Think you’re also missing the point in naming all these very young English kids at Arsenal. The point is: how many are ever given an opportunity to break into the first team? The answer is none. Every team has a youth set-up, so you’re winning no brownie points there my friend. How many kids bought by Arsene Wenger are British, as opposed to being foreign? That’s the point here, dimwit. That foreign kid is always going to be given more of a chance to stake his claim at Arsenal than the British kid who is already there in the youth team. The facts are simple here: Arsenal is a club that does NOT buy British players, almost by decree of policy. And that, when you consider Arsenal are a club based in the British Isles, is a pathetic approach to contributing back to

To put Englishman Hoyte further down the pecking order? To finally put a death knell on the Arsenal career of 20 year old Englishman Gilbert? Anyway, what Harry said is right. We've provided more players for other PL and Championship clubs from our Academies than anyone, maybe barring Man U.

Well, before jumping to conclusions, lets wait what this Wonder Kid Gunter will turn out to be. Will he be able to help the spurs win two games back to back or beat the Arsenal after I lost count how many years? The truth is, Arsenal are years ahead of any plan Tottenham can come up with. Yes, I am an Arsenal fan, but I write this out of respect, and that includes Tottenham. But the sad truth is that Arsene knows and the North London neighbours just improvise year after year. They are too busy changing managers and looking for new owners. Greg Tersakian Montreal, Canada

what are you on about? 4 million for someone who has played 28 games??? have they gone mad?? i'm all for bringing english talent through but you have to be paying sensible prices. ok he's young, he has potential but why do teams pay so much for that alone? i can't understand why teams pay this much for someone who only has potential? Lukas Leiva, should be a great player - 5-6 million, i'm not sure. Anderson - 17 million. Bale - 10 million. I look at arsenal, Abou Diaby - 2 million. Fran Merida - 2 million. Johan Djourou - not sure but not a lot! and the rest. why do other teams pay so much while arsenal pay so little?

this article is spot on...i'm a celtic fan and i think arsenal are a sickening football club

I agree with a lot of things on the article. g4l_harry all the players u have listed all have been given up by arsenal and if it wasn't for the other teams having faith in them they would have rotted in hell in your reserves or released for free! U also stated arsenal spent 6 million for wright but that was ancient times, before wenger decided to look for overseas talent.

No wonder English football is in the state it's in. The only way it will ever get good again is when people realise it's not Arsenal's fault young British players aren't good enough to play for them. Judging by the misinformed spanners on here, it may never happen.

I read your article by accident and can only say that I think you could be in the wrong job, the guys have covered it well enough so I won't add to their comments except to say that Arsene Wenger has shown that he recognises talent and that is the number one priority as he looks to maintain Arsenals current position in the years ahead.

Two words, Theo Walcott

That is exactly why Arsenal are on the top and spurs are fighting relegation... Get your facts ready, Arsenal with Wenger have tried with the above talents named. And lost some money, while gaining tremendous on foreign. Whom which suits much better to Arsene's style of playing and living. British talents just have to be more patient. Bentley, Pennant, Sidwell and Upson could have made it to the first team, But they did not stick around long enough. You see Hoyte pushing and commenting he is ready for fight his spot even if Eboue and Sagna are ahead right now. Players like Hoyte will make it to the top regardless of how many foreign players Arsenal have. Sorry this article had potential to be good but you did not search enough for facts. Good luck next time.

[quote]what are you on about? 4 million for someone who has played 28 games??? have they gone mad?? i'm all for bringing english talent through but you have to be paying sensible prices. ok he's young, he has potential but why do teams pay so much for that alone? i can't understand why teams pay this much for someone who only has potential? Lukas Leiva, should be a great player - 5-6 million, i'm not sure. Anderson - 17 million. Bale - 10 million. I look at arsenal, Abou Diaby - 2 million. Fran Merida - 2 million. Johan Djourou - not sure but not a lot! and the rest. why do other teams pay so much while arsenal pay so little? [/quote] ummm walcott?? lol

[quote]Bentley, Boothroyd, sidwell,Pennant,Stack, Taylor,Gray amongst others all who have gone to ply their trade in PL or Championship, The following players are there now and are been nutured by Arsenal Gibbs, J Hoyte, G Hoyte, Lansbury, Watts, , Gilbert, Simpson, Rodgers,Thomas,Cruise,Murphy, Bartley, Blackwood. Before writing articles get your facts in order matey. Your using comments attributed to the daily hacks that as we all know are rarely right. Yes we have foreign but we also have english, surely the 12 million we are drip feeding Southampton is more than the 10Million they got from Spurs? Also 6million for Wright?, 10million for Jeffers? I could go on but its like your artcle pointless.[/quote] You've shot yourself in the foot with your comments. You mention all the kids that were youngsters at arsenal. They are proof that wenger doesn't want brits at his club. if you had a choice of pennant, bentley or Eboue for RW, 9 out of 10 ppl would want pennant or Bentley rather than Eboue. Upson or G

By the way big fella there is no inaccuracies in my comments. We did pay 10million for Jeffers and where did I say that Everton were Paupers?? No I didnt, I was just alluding to the point that we do not put money back into English football, by the way I dont smoke its bad for you.

and you know why Gerry, because you know sh** about arsenal. You dont know the term research do you? Walcott is at arsenal not because he is english but for 2 reasons - 1)he is that good 2)he plays the way wenger wants arsenal to. A lot of english talent has left arsenal recently if you've noticed, foremost is bentley for which i have huge regrets. To add some more anthony stokes, sidwell, pennant and a lot more, on whom you ll surely have kept tabs on, Gerry. I agree we rarely buy championship players but the reason for that is same 2 points i mentioned above. Would arsenal be playing this way if we had good smattering of championship players(no disrespect here). We may not have english players but you will know we are a completely english club in terms of ownership and administration. The club tries to pump in money to the local people and charities as far as it can despite the debt issue from the stadium and it will only get better once the debt is cleared. Dont say we have done nothing for the english

Jermaine pennant for one example. British attitude where he seems more interested in fast cars and girls than football. thats why Arsene flogged him. All of the youngsters Arsenal buy are totaly devoted to learning their trade instead of showing off.

Read the comments before commenting on what I have said, which foot did you shoot first. Although I would agree that I would prefer Bentley over Eboue, but that isnt the arguement.

"If you had a choice of pennant, bentley or Eboue for RW, 9 out of 10 ppl would want pennant or Bentley rather than Eboue." Say Hleb instead, as Eboue is just standin. Or let say Freddy in his absolute prime as the situation was when Bentley demanded to play every week. Bentley does not even make it to the first eleven in the English national team, he would barely make it to Arsenals second string that beat rovers few days ago... I say it again, those britsh players who are good enough will make it to the top. Everybody gets a chance at Arsenal, but you have to show attitude. Wenger do not fall for drink and drivers...

arsenal put to shame, over what?? mr author have ou looked at the under 17 and under 18 squads at arsenal, chock-a-block with english talent, and not to mention all those player playing in the championship, premier league and spl that originated at arsenal!!! get your facts straight mate!!!!

Timmy TooShooz Undefined. Bentley, Boothroyd, upson, sidwell,Pennant,Stack, Taylor,Gray, harper, o'hara, muamba, stokes etc all had the benefit of the first class coaches, training facilities and learned from world class players. Now they are plying their trade for various prem and championship teams which has benefited the teams they went to and helped british football. and we let all of them go on the cheap. most of those players we sold cost less than tottenham are paying for gunter and most of them had prem experience.The most represented club for England from under 21 down is arsenal - Fact!!!! and the point of £10 million for jeffers meant they could splash a bit of that cash on (at the time) championship playa Cahill and championship player Johson (in other words the money filtered down) Bentley, upson pennant were given opportunities but were not patient, not the same as not giving them a chance.