There is a big difference between deserving to win and actually winning. There is a big difference between taking qaulifying for the champions league down to the last game, and actually qualifying for the champions league. The difference is whether you have a team of winners or losers. we didnt just have a bad game against you, we have had a couple of bad games, the only difference is your the only team that we still picked up three points from, because your team are a bunch of losers.

Arsenal were under par because we did not play well. This is because of your spoiling tactics and our failure to pass the ball.Is that what you aim to be? Antoher typical crap english team that survives playing against arsenal by stopping them from playing meaning it is harder for Arsenal than any other team in the top four to win the league.

And by the way. Making a team look ordinary by defending well does not make you rightful winners! Attacking a team is what gives you that privelage. We were the only team attempting to attack.

By spoiling tactics do you mean out playing you? Cos I ndidn't ssee us trying to play out for a draw... I didn't see us fouling you to break upo the play... I'm not sure you know anything about football... or maybe you're just a typical inward looking arsenal fan!

[quote]Arsenal were under par because we did not play well. This is because of your spoiling tactics and our failure to pass the ball.Is that what you aim to be? Antoher typical crap english team that survives playing against arsenal by stopping them from playing meaning it is harder for Arsenal than any other team in the top four to win the league.[/quote] Clearly, you are yet another ignorant, johnny-come-lately gooner. If you knew anything about football, you would know that Tottenham went to the Emirates to win. They enjoyed almost 50% of possession (how many other clubs do that at the Emirates?), created as many good chances as Arsenal (again, how many other clubs can say the same?) and should have been awarded a second penalty. So "spoiling tactics"? Go back to kindergarten and learn about football before making such risibly ignorant comments.

[quote]By spoiling tactics do you mean out playing you? Cos I ndidn't ssee us trying to play out for a draw... I didn't see us fouling you to break upo the play... I'm not sure you know anything about football... or maybe you're just a typical inward looking arsenal fan! [/quote] when u beat us this millenium then you can post your rubbish mate.

You are talking crap, we out play you and you get a lucky win. Well done, just admit it. What do you want, everyone to stand there and applaud you because you've passed the ball 3 times in a row? Get real you dope. By the way I'm glad you seem to be distanncing yourself from being a 'English' team as you'll never be considered more than a bunch of preening foreign mercenaries

The most important thing is that Ramos is doing a good job and the team has turned the corner. With King, Rocha, Bale & Gardner return, the team will be stronger and harder to beat. As per getting past Arsenal, there were more positives from the emirates and the Carling cup will be a genuine answer.

I came on here to point out another Headline conjured up by "journos" on this site designed for nothing more than to get hits on their site. Mention Arsenal and Spurs in a headline, and we all come running.

Thats ruffled yer feathers boys, your fear is that we are getting better under Ramos and if we done enough to get the oppertunity to beat you last saturday, then you know weve got a great chance of beating you over two legs in a couple of weeks

[quote]The most important thing is that Ramos is doing a good job and the team has turned the corner. With King, Rocha, Bale & Gardner return, the team will be stronger and harder to beat. As per getting past Arsenal, there were more positives from the emirates and the Carling cup will be a genuine answer.[/quote] This will provide you with nothing as once again we will play our b team. Your answers will come if you can actually beat a decent team this year i.e. chelsea liverpool man utd, in the league. If you can do that the same way that teams that you aspire to be do like, pompey man city everton, then you have improved.

you lot are a bunch of tossers! Of course we need to beat arsenal - as its a cup semi final but chill out! we'd need to beat whoever it is that we play anyway so stop bringing up arsenal. we played fulham - we beat fulham - simple as! next is reading and we have to beat them - then villa cos thats football so shut up and save ur time writing that trash. although arsenal fans dont seem to be able to write anything constructive at all. this site should be banned from out footy sites cos its a waste of time! any tom, dick and harry can come along and say 'ronaldinho to barnsley in £50 million deal'!!! just leave the articles to the people who actually have something constructive to say...PLEASE!!

Having supported and watched Spurs for over 30 years now, i dont ever claim that were in the current top 4. I like that we are trying to get there. I can even take criticism from you gooners as you do at times play wonderful football !!! However, what i cannot accept is how much you gooners boast about the fact that you have at last started to play football under Wenger. For years you lot ruined any big game with your defensive 1-0 wins!! its not in your nature to play fluently, own up its all new to you guys. Listening to you is like being taught to suck eggs. Please rise above your fear of our improvement and accept Spurs have led the way in terms of playing attractive football. This is within the culture of our club not yours so you cant claim it yet, maybe 30 years or so? Ive had many Gooner mates over the years and they just adjust their arguments within their fickle world. They used to claim "it dont matter how we play its the winning that counts" and now "its all about style" And then your shameful

face it spurs supporters you are wasting your breath, a gooner will never admit anything negative about their team. The problem stems right the way from the manager himself. Look at wengers comments after the pompey game, they were clearly outplayed for most of the game yet wengers remarks suggest the complete opposite. Yes it was disappointing to loose the way we did and if we were outplayed and deserved to loose id admit it! It was great to see the team react the way they did against fulham, they could easily have gone into that game with their heads down!

i agree with paul. they'll never admit to anything so we mite as well leave this 'argument' alone! COYS

[quote]face it spurs supporters you are wasting your breath, a gooner will never admit anything negative about their team. The problem stems right the way from the manager himself. Look at wengers comments after the pompey game, they were clearly outplayed for most of the game yet wengers remarks suggest the complete opposite. Yes it was disappointing to loose the way we did and if we were outplayed and deserved to loose id admit it! It was great to see the team react the way they did against fulham, they could easily have gone into that game with their heads down![/quote] what r u banging on about, yes we admit we played s*** against you, but you lost. We know when we play well we can beat anyone like when we outplayed real madrids galacticos away from home. The only decent european team you have played in ten years is sevilla who banged you up home and away. Pompey outplayed us, what game were you watching!!!!!!

There you go proving my point again! "we played crap and still won" not you played well and deserved to win! didnt the mighty arsenal come up against sevilla recently? and if we are going to go down that line, werent we recently away at portmouth and what was the outcome compared to yours?

From its very inception, the Arsenal football club was dedicated to the proposition that winning is everything. Arsenal fans have never really cared about the game, they were content that their club played the most backward, cynical football in the land. Now, under Wenger, they are finally playing modern football. And gooners are suddenly pretending that they care about how the game is played. Meanwhile, Spurs have always tried to play with honour. Sometimes we have been too idealistic or unrealistic in our approach, but we have always tried to play modern, positive football. Under Ramos, Spurs fans will soon have a team that not only tries to play positive, attacking football, but will have the ability to win playing this way. In other words, there will soon be two teams playing like Spurs in North London.

When spurs played Le ARSENAL without 7 firt teamers, we out played them for long periods. O'hara and Boateng bossed the midfield closeing down and not giving Fabregas and Flamini any room to play. Spurs played very well not ARSENAL playing bad. Yet the media and stupid goons choose to believe this crap, whenever a top 4 team gets outplayed its always because they had an off day rather then the opposition playing well. Keep your heads in the sand glory boys as the worm will turn, our reserves played very well if only you could be honest. But like wenger you can't see it.

? deserve to win????? what planet are you on, if you fail to convert a pen against a team you havent beaten in seven years who are meant to be your biggest rivals, YOU DESERVE NOTHING. As for sevilla we smashed them at home and put out a weakend team away as we were already through, you may not have noticed as you were probably trying to beat some danish team to get through to the eufa cup next round. Paul something you need to get through your head mate, Football is like life, it is not about what you deserve, its about what you get. I admit we played s***, I also admit you played better than I thought you would with the team you put out. At the end of the day you lost. it is easy getting close it is the getting there at seperates winners and losers and spurs always get close which says alot about the mentality of the playing staff.

Clearly, you are yet another ignorant, johnny-come-lately gooner. If you knew anything about football, you would know that Tottenham went to the Emirates to win. They enjoyed almost 50% of possession (how many other clubs do that at the Emirates?), created as many good chances as Arsenal (again, how many other clubs can say the same?) and should have been awarded a second penalty. So "spoiling tactics"? Go back to kindergarten and learn about football before making such risibly ignorant comments. You should've been awarded another penalty eh? well by my calculations we should've been awarded 2 penalties but that's just the way it goes. As it happens we were just more clinical and had a better keeper too......

and for all the gooners fantastic football,etc etc, blah blah, what have you lot won in the last 4 years ?? NOTHING the same as spurs

[quote]and for all the gooners fantastic football,etc etc, blah blah, what have you lot won in the last 4 years ?? NOTHING the same as spurs[/quote] Mate forget 4 years your dad probably wasnt born the last time you actually won the league

[quote]Clearly, you are yet another ignorant, johnny-come-lately gooner. If you knew anything about football, you would know that Tottenham went to the Emirates to win. They enjoyed almost 50% of possession (how many other clubs do that at the Emirates?), created as many good chances as Arsenal (again, how many other clubs can say the same?) and should have been awarded a second penalty. So "spoiling tactics"? Go back to kindergarten and learn about football before making such risibly ignorant comments. You should've been awarded another penalty eh? well by my calculations we should've been awarded 2 penalties but that's just the way it goes. As it happens we were just more clinical and had a better keeper too......[/quote] You miss the point completely. To be expected, I suppose, from jcl's. Goofle was trying to claim that Spurs had gone to the Emirates to shut up shop, kill the game and hope for an undeserved point. I merely pointed out that he was quite wrong and that Spurs contributed as

[quote]You should've been awarded another penalty eh? well by my calculations we should've been awarded 2 penalties but that's just the way it goes. As it happens we were just more clinical and had a better keeper too......[/quote] You miss the point completely. To be expected, I suppose, from jcl's. Goofle was trying to claim that Spurs had gone to the Emirates to shut up shop, kill the game and hope for an undeserved point. I merely pointed out that he was quite wrong and that Spurs contributed as much passing football and attacking play to the game as Arsenal.

Your never take those arsenal specs off an arsenal supporters face! There really is no point talking football with a gooner as half of them dont even watch it, they just check the scores! I know a gooner who thought henry was still at the club!! I mean..WTF! The reason half of the arsenal fans dont realise how boring they used to be is because most of them are plastic fans, who have only supported arsenal for the wenger years because they have been successful for a few years! (Of course none of them will admit this) But i know many of these! Spurs had 67% of possesion twice when the possesion stats came up during the match, the majority of play was in the gooners half. Yes we missed a sitter and a pen, yes we were the better team, arsenal didnt play badly though, spurs weakened side stopped the near full strength goons from getting into there usual pattern of play. Spurs stopped you moving the ball around, stopped you from counter attacking, just like pompey did. Had we of had a full team out against l

....le'arse im pretty sure we would of taken the game! We are getting closer though and one day soon we will take our rightful crown back over those at the imigrants stadium!

My point was that any team who closes down and roughed up another opponent cannot deserve to win. If you outplay us and have more chances created through skill, then you deserve to win. Having a penalty is not a question of your team being skillful, it is us giving one away, especially the one you got which was neither you breaking us down or having a clear cut chance. Arsenal did not play well. If we did, it would have been more like 3-0 than 2-1. You made us play badly but that is not what is needed to win games is it?

And I was only born in the Wenger years (1990 but only liked footy in 1999) so I am not a plastic fan as I watch every match. I care for the club very much and I feel that I am not particularly swayed by my support of any club, hence why I never say "oh typical spurs fan, always doing..." i just state my opinion. On this topic, just like the foreign player topic, I would like to think that my opinion would be the same whoever I supported. I admire attacking football and it seems that foreign players bring that. I am not patriotic so thats why i guess, not becasue I am an Arsenal fan.

[quote]....le'arsenal im pretty sure we would of taken the game! We are getting closer though and one day soon we will take our rightful crown back over those at the imigrants stadium![/quote] Yes you are right we used to play absolute sh**e football, the difference is we still won leagues and cups playing sh**e football. I love your little racist comment at the end sums up you spurs mugs, the funny thing is juande is actually a decent manager and it will take him about 6 seconds to realize he needs to bring in about 10 imigrants to replace the world class english players currently at the lane.

oh yeah 1 last thing, possession in the game was 53% arsenal 47% and territorial advantage was 52.5% arsenal 47.5 spurs. Thats 90 mins not just 5 mins U MUG

I have coached youth football for many years, and the one excuse I despise more than any other is the "they didn't do anything special, we just didn't play well" line. I have never used this condescending piece of crap to explain a disappointing performance by one of my teams. But of course Wenger (in the traditional arrogant French style) can't imagine that Spurs had anything to do with his team's poor performance. The fact is that Arsenal have been looking increasingly ordinary in recent weeks. If Wenger actually believes the crap he is spouting (instead of analyzing what teams like Spurs have been doing of late to outplay his team) then you gooners should be concerned.

The last meeting was very unlucky and with a depleated first team Spurs should have won it.It is only a matter of time before we do beat them, Even there luck can't hold out forever. Maybe the right time will be revenge for the Semi's last year, Ramos is now bringing about a belief, we just need to get back to full strength.Ledley's return could not have come sooner.Spurs do have the team here to challenge,nobody with a knowledge of Football will doubt that.Confidence and stability are all that's needed to really the light the Touch paper.

terrible article! This makes the writer sound like a west ham fan when they say '' we nearly won the f.a cup'' nobody cares what people didnt achieve. We are miles off arsenal and yes we are getting better but boasting about a decent performance against arsenal is not good.

[quote]oh yeah 1 last thing, possession in the game was 53% arse 47% and territorial advantage was 52.5% arsenal 47.5 spurs. Thats 90 mins not just 5 mins U MUG[/quote] Indeed. And those stats show that the game was very closely contested and that Spurs absolutely did NOT go to the Emirates to hack and kick and stifle their way to an undeserved draw. Quite the opposite. Spurs' reserves, playing away from home, almost matched Arsenal's near full strength team pass for pass; shot for shot. I can guarantee you that there will only be a handful of teams who will go to the Emirates this season with as much attacking intent.

what u r saying is correct, I actually agree with most of it except the reserves bit, 4 players out is not reserves lol. Your intention was to play, it wasnt a physical game and like I will say to any spurs fan u play good football and always have. When u string two results togather and everyone starts banging on about we are better than arsenal, we have the team to challenge, it sounds stupid. Canuck Yid is slating arsene wenger becuase............. he teaches under 5s!!! Mug LOL. I take ur points on though and will not contest them cause they are correct. as I said before its not about beating our b team in the carling, you will have to beat the big four in real games and when you get the chance to get fourth again you will need the mental strength to take it. Juande is a good manager and I think you guys will do well, I much prefer watchin spurs to either liv or chels any day of the week. Have a good one jim

hahha beat the surs an den boer draw to postsmouth....o this great sexy football wont win ye the league ...ye call yer self top f an havent challenged for leaguein ouver 3 years....oh an no trophy for a top team in two years.... oh my oh my

Spurs are way better than their fans, who are true garbage.