It's time to admit it - Liverpool are not good enough to win the title

For years people have been on about the big 4. There is no big 4. There is a BIG 3!. Liverpool are not in the same league as Man U, Arsenal or Chelsea. Thare a little better than Spurs, Everton or Portsmouth. Any reds fan who serioulsy believes that they are comparable to the Big 3 are seriously deluded

[quote]For years people have been on about the big 4. There is no big 4. There is a BIG 3!. Liverpool are not in the same league as Man U, Arsenal or Chelsea. Thare a little better than Spurs, Everton or Portsmouth. Any reds fan who serioulsy believes that they are comparable to the Big 3 are seriously deluded[/quote] We finished above Arsenal the past two years and won more Champions League finals than all three of them combined since 2005, so maybe you're the one that is deluded.

Well, Man City have the cash to make it a big four again. Liverpool's record since Prem began doesn't warrant calling it a big four. Chelsea have only had the consistency more recently, but have the cash now to stay there. Rafa doesn't appear to be learning quickly enough in the Premiership. Look at the line-up for Reading - the only conclusion to draw is that he had given up on the title by then. Also, I think his outburst against owners over money shows his blueprint for success is cash. Stark contrast to that of Wenger, who generally seems to be better judge of when money is needed. However, how many Wengers are there in the world. If Rafa goes, who would come in and do better?

the american owners are mainly to blame to be honest. if they actually had the money they made out they did it would be okay. liverpool is a massive club and so richer owners are needed. chelsea didnt win 2 titles in a row without the input of millions from their owner, and the americans just arent producing enough funds. you cant expect to be in the title race when man utd spend over 50 million on 3 players, losing none in the process, and liverpool spend about 35 million on 4 players, most of the money coming from player sales. of course theres the rotation policy and too much competition when all we need is one quality player for each position and average players for cover. i mean, man utd only have the likes of o shea and fletcher as cover and look where they are

Obviously any write up appearing on this Sportingo site by any person is utterly biased against Liverpool. Total and utter anti-Red garbage not worth the time it took me to type this comment. You might as well name every article "We Hate Liverpool FC" and the website www.we-hate-lfc.com Incidentally what team do you "claim" to support? I bet if you scour the entire Sportingo website you won't find one single article praising Liverpool in any way, shape of form for any of their successes unmatched as yet by any English team in the last 30 years!

Manchester city are looking to clench the 4th spot this year and will stay in the so called "big 4"

Reasonable liverpool fans know the title is out of reach unless investment is made and that is what the new owners were for. They have not stumped up enough cash to compete with the top teams so we will be reliant on rafa in europe and the cups for success.

HE HAS BEEN A BIG SUCCESS SINCE HE CAME TO LIVERPOOL.AM A LIVERPOOL FAN FROM NIGERIA.I STILL HAS HOPE IN HIM AND ALSO IN THE PREMIER TITLE.

Doesn't look too bright but we have not given up yet. That's for other teams to decide for themselves! Fans too! As for me, I still have hope because we NWA...

Dear Ashley you are very deluded, only half a season and you belive man city will be in the top four, grow up!! idiot they will fall away and Liverpool will end up 3rd at the end, Man city keep dreaming

i am afraid rafa benitez has took liverpool as far as he can, you have to question his motivational skills, the players have no passion for this club, bring on jose, he will win them the title.

I am a Liverpool fan and I have to say Benitez is really dilusioned if he thinks Liverpool have any chance of landing the title this season we just have to make sure we sement 3 or 4 place and concentrate on the CL. Sell Dirk Kuyt aka the labrador get rid of crap Riise and try to buy some proper players if we get a decent striker upp there with Torres we have a good chance next season

"We finished above Arsenal the past two years and won more Champions League finals than all three of them combined since 2005, so maybe you're the one that is deluded" Since the permiership began you broke into the top three 5 times, Newcastle did it 4 times. Face it, you are best of the rest. if finishing above Arsenal (twice) is an achievement for you, then well done. Fair enough you won the champions league, but you can't compete with the Big 3 in the premiership

"We finished above Arsenal thepast two years and won more Champions League finals than all three of them combined since 2005, so maybe you're the one that is deluded" Since the permiership began you broke into the top three 5 times, Newcastle did it 4 times. Face it, you are best of the rest. if finishing above Arsenal (twice) is an achievement for you, then well done. Fair enough you won the champions league, but you can't compete with the Big 3 in the premiership

I support rafa but he has made some mistakes. My random thoughts: 1. kuyt has been rafa's most expensive mistake. 10 mill quid. if rafa had bought berbatov instead things would be differ. You cannot afford to have a 2nd forward who cannot create his own goals. he sold heskey for 5 mill...we would be better off with heskey. 2. team speed. if you compare LFC speed to the top 3 we are woefully short. players with below average speed for their position include kuyt, kewell, aurelio, riise, hyypia, carra, masch, alonso, hobbs,etc. You simply cannot win the EPL with Torres and Stevie the only two regulars that have above average speed. Team speed is not as important in the CL and hence why we have more success. 3. rafa needs to adjust to his personnel. you cannot rotate if you do not have strong personnel. the problem he currently has is a partner to take the heat off torress. he is being double and triple marked because kuyt and voronin do not pose a scoring threat. he must give babbel a shot to cure th

Dude, you need to be realistic at some point which is what my article is getting at. I am not having a go, facts are facts. Supporting your team whilst blindly ignoring the glaring issues is blinkered. They have already cost me 2 phones this year (the last one falling victim to my wall) but I am not anti-Liverpool, just tired of the same sh** every year of all this promise and talk of a title push and ultimately doing nothing close to that

Rafa tried for Berbatov but they upped the price late on and as we all know we were operating to very strict budgets then, hence why we lost out on Alves & Simao around the same time

You may well be right in the end. The thing is, even if you are, even if everyone else is, given that City's bubble was supposed to burst right after the West Ham game, I wouldn't trust you (or any talking head or newspaper writer) to find your a*** with both hands. It's easy to say "big four" and easy to pick on the so-called cellar dwellers...you see, that way, you can get away with being clueless sheep whilst seeming oh-so-knowledgeable 'cos you are proven "right." Real nouse is tested in marginal cases. I'll tell you this you nitwit, we've been playing the whole season with the equivalent of half a striker, and with a defence that has contributed a single goal. When Bojinov comes back (bought for Bianchi to play with) and Castillo gets in gear, you'll see us at Anfield with 3 strikers (2, and Castillo in the slot next to Elano). Have another look at how weak our strike force has been, and then wonder we're still / only 4th. Where do you think you would be with only Kuyt and Crouch pal? Some bubble

Argh! Some bubble. Some burst.

That goes without saying. Yes. The problem is Rafa's rotation policy. How can any team perform together when they are constantly being switched, it's not good managment at this level. I can see his reasons behind it, but playing a quality sqaud consistantly is the only way to build chemistry. Avoid playing sissoko who clearly cannot gel with the rest of the side on the pitch and play crouch with Torres. Kuyt seems to have two left feet, but on the upside he is a workhorse. No good if you can't finish as a striker. Come on Benitez listen.

its abt the same, other than torres and gerrard, the rest of liverpool team won't make man u's reserves.