Home > Football > Pascal Cygan or Tony Adams? The two faces of Arsenal's Philippe Senderos
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by Sue on February 12, 2008
Given a chance Philippe will be the new Swiss Tone. I can see similarities in their style of play and lets face it they were both donkeys when they first placed for The Arsenal. The more they played the more confidence was shown in their football. Hope he makes it.
by brian the gooner on February 12, 2008
I feel a bit sorry for Senderos who is a young centre-back still gaining experience.It's all about when you make your mistakes and it certainly helps if you have lots of quality performances in the bag before you start making them.He certainly stuggles on occasions against Drogba(who would'nt)and his distribution needs to improve but if anyone saw Kolo Toure's shameful display for the Ivory Coast last week then you would not want him rather than Senderos in the team. But then he has left his mistakes until later than Senderos and therefore won't get overly slated for it.
by max on February 12, 2008
His knees turn to jelly everytime Drogba comes near him.Has that ridiculous habit of crossing his hands/arms against his back when a speedy forward runs at him near pen box.Adams,Terry,Upson never does that.I think its been 'coached' out of him now.
by Santa on February 12, 2008
I don`t think Senderos is good enough to play for Arsenal. He might be good enough when they are playing the likes of Blackburn, Newcastle and so on... But when Man Utd, Milan etc comes to visit I don`t think he will good enough. I like his attitude but unfortunately his passing and pace isn`t good enough...
by looneygooner on February 12, 2008
He needs a good run in the team, it's all about confidence and with Willie always in his ear,pardon the pun,he listens and you can see him growing in statue. He's still young and all defenders are prone to errors,Drogba ran most defenders ragged last season, but it was poor Phil who took the most flak. Remember the FA cup final when Drogba made a mug out of Rio. Give him time and he will come good. You only have to look at Adebayor to see what confidence and belief does. He will have his critics,but f them, we have a good centre-half in the making and he's still young
by Ole Gunner on February 12, 2008
Santa you're wrong. Last season he played against Chelsea and was awesome, and he was part of our Champions League final run in 06. Remember we set a European clean sheet record in that run.
If I remember rightly Terry and Upson weren't much cop when they were his age. Judge him when he's older
by jch on February 12, 2008
His contributions are hardly ever mentioned. He works extremely hard and deserves more credit. Against Blackburn he was excellent.
Are you really saying that Upson is no longer much cop.What a donkey he is.Makes Senderos look like Maldini.
by Bal on February 12, 2008
i dnt understand the gooners who critucized hleb and adebayor last season..if its easy to condemn it should be easy to play.give it a try and become a arsenal player fr a day..song and senderos have been taking a good amount of stick this season as has eduardo at the start we forgot hes one of our striker.but i guess its this criticism that built these players..walcott is taking his bit of stick now...and that is good news eh
by chippy-61 on February 12, 2008
You can not fault the lads determination and effort but he rarely wins any of the headers he goes up for and is the only player in the squad that struggles if he gets given the ball to feet and someone pressures him. Two or three years ago he looked a good prospect but despite having this time to improve he is no better a player now than he was when he was 19.
by Joe_@** on February 12, 2008
I made some comments on other sites last year & I would like to repeat them here. Senderos is decent & will developed into a good old-fashioned centre back like Terry in near future. It is our tactic that exposed his weakness. Being a team that play with 2 wing backs, we need centre backs with quick recovery capability like Toure & Gallas. I think even Terry with his pace or rather lack-of would at times struggle if playing for us
by ArseNole on February 12, 2008
I don't know how anyone can say he's like Pascal Cygan. He gets better every time he plays. Yes he has some bad games, but he has had great games too! He plays against some of the best strikers in the world and has played well. Remember that he was starting every game back when we went all the way to the Champion's League Final without conceding a goal to the likes of Madrid and Juventus. He's still young and will only get better. http://arsenole.com
by DarkoArsenal on February 12, 2008
[quote]You can not fault the lads determination and effort but he rarely wins any of the headers he goes up for and is the only player in the squad that struggles if he gets given the ball to feet and someone pressures him.Two or three years ago he looked a good prospect but despite having this time to improve he is no better a player now than he was when he was 19.[/quote] That's chicken s***, this guy is very good, he needs some more time to develop. Last summer italian papers were full of storys that he's moving to Juve – because of the english papers crap. AW said NO - just within 24 hours. So tell me my expert named cygan; Why is AW so stupid and he can not see the things you can? Senderos played half injured against Blackburn, scored and defended very well. Your Problem is: Senderos is not fancy enough.
You're right he never wins any headers and his passing isreally bad.Yesterday was the first time I saw a clearence actually travel more than 30 meters.Against B'burn 5 passes went to opposition players.
by Jesse on February 12, 2008
If you remember his first full season (2004-05)he had a solid run in the team with kolo and the kept around 10 clean sheets consecutively! And the run up to the champs league final (again with kolo, stayed untouched until the final! it seems weve been our best when he has played - so to doubt him on the odd game is not justifiable. Phil and Kolo will make a fantastic partnership when the time comes - a perfect balance - phil being the aeriel presence and solidity - kolo being the pace, aggression, and furociousness that will cope with the pacier attackers - both of whom are expectional tacklers!
by STEVE WALLIS on February 12, 2008
if you sat where I sit you would see that senderos is deceptively qucik. also repsect to the guy for playing thro an injury for the team last night. I think this shows he is more adams and less pascal cygan
by pablo on February 12, 2008
To compare him to Cygan is harsh (unless he is facing Drogba) but i dont think he will be able dislodge gallas or toure as the first choice cb's. he knows he will have to get his games here and then when one or the other goes down or is away like Toure was during the ACN
by percyival gayle on February 13, 2008
this lad is a very good player, statistisc shows he must be doing something right, a couple a season he had a run with Kolo in the tail end of the league and didn't concede too many goals, then the Champions league run, the he went to the world cup and still didn't conceived a goal, he got injured. but in time this lad will be arsenal bed rock with who ever he plays with, this guy is a natural leader, and i've no doubt he will be a huge succes
by eve Arsenal on February 13, 2008
Senderos is good. i find him worthy to be an arsenal player. well written article by arsenalnfriends
by chippy-61 on February 14, 2008
Quote "That's chicken s***, this guy is very good, he needs some more time to develop. Last summer italian papers were full of storys that he's moving to Juve – because of the english papers crap. AW said NO - just within 24 hours. So tell me my expert named cygan; Why is AW so stupid and he can not see the things you can? Senderos played half injured against Blackburn, scored and defended very well. Your Problem is: Senderos is not fancy enough.[/quote] Darko are you seriously suggesting AW basis his transfer policy on what the press report LOL. I do not deny that Senderos is very good but that is not the benchmark for the starting 11 of The Arsenal.The starting 11 need to be World class or very close to it and Senderos is not. I do not say that I see more than AW,In fact clearly he sees far more than I do but he does not play Senderos if Gallas and Toure are fit does he.The reason is simple, B ecuase he is not as good as them.Watch the games carefully and you will see for yourself that for such a big guy he wins a lot less headers than he should do.Also if he has the ball to feet and someone pressures him he will hack the ball away anywhere often giving a teammate a bad pass. In effort and determination he is Tony Adams but in ability although he may not be as bad as Cygan he is a long way short of TA and I for one have doubts that he will ever be as good as TA was.