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Arsenal agony inquest: Does Birmingham boss McLeish bear some responsibility?
Sportingo's Mark Rivlin reckons we shouldn't be shooting the messenger after Martin Taylor's horrendous tackle on Eduardo da Silva - and questions what went on in the Blues' dressing room before the game.
by Mark Rivlin on 25 February 2008
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Let me set out my stall so readers know where I am coming from. I am not a fan of Arsenal or Birmingham City and I had barely heard of Martin Taylor before Saturday.
I am a fan of football and have been since I was hooked after being taken to my first game in 1961 at the age of six. I had indeed heard of Eduardo da Silva before Saturday. He is the kind of player fans like me hand over our hard-earned money to see. He's got an abundance of talent and he excites.
I'm not interested in what Arsene Wenger should not have said, did say, wanted to say, missed saying. Nor am I interested in Alex McLeish's sanctimonious claptrap about Taylor not being 'that type of player'. I'm only interested in what caused Taylor to wreck the career of a young man in his prime.
Let's give the Birmingham defender the benefit of the doubt that he did not cross the white line with the intention of inflicting GBH on Eduardo after three minutes. But I'll wager that in the back of his mind was McLeish's team talk as the City players were rubbing in the linament oil. And I'll bet that the manager told his back four to 'get among' Eduardo and Emmanuel Adebayor early, to unnerve them and to make sure they knew who was going to boss the game.
I'm equally sure McLeish did not tell Taylor and his fellow defenders to go out and permanently maim a player, and this is not a rant against the Blues boss. But we have now reached a stage in our football where Saturday's incident is no surprise - and that's the alarming thing.
I'm sorry, but the main culprits here are not only the players who perpetrate these atrocities. To use a chilling phrase from another context, they are only following orders. When Emmanuel Eboue tried to carve Patrice Evra in two last week, was he acting unilaterally? I think not.
Again I'm not singling out Wenger; it's becoming clearer to me that Premier League managers are sending their troops out to settle scores with niggly private conflicts between players playing to packed galleries.
In my day it was Norman Hunter and Billy Bremner against Ron Harris and Peter Osgood; a few years ago it was Roy Keane, Ruud van Nistlrerooy and Patrick Vieira. Today there is hardly a game without a challenge that looks tasty at best or thuggish at worst.
Calling players thugs gets us nowhere. Players are generally ordinary lads with an abundance of skill who are under massive pressure to deliver. It's how they react to the pressure that matters.
Taylor's challenge was a disgrace and he knows it is. What matters is why he made it and will Eduardo's misery be a watershed for the violence to stop? The League Managers Association and the PFA need to get together and work out a code of conduct where directives come from within, not from the FA, the Premier League or Football League.
By within, I mean the sanctity of the dressing room moments before kick-off where McLeish and Co talk about how to play football, not how to neutralise the opposition. Managing is not about talking inane platitudes after a game or cosying up to an agent for a quick bung. It's about managing the company workforce.
In this regard McLeish has failed miserably. He may well not have pulled the trigger, but older readers will remember well the trial of Derek Bentley, who was sent to the gallows because he shouted to his accomplice: 'Let him have it'.
Comments (17)
by Wayne Phillips on February 25, 2008
Mark, you are the first person who has mentioned this and I have been wondering why it has taken everyone so long to realise this. I echo and endorse your thinking - well said.
by cliff mann on February 25, 2008
You obviously have never heard of the current blues team either. BCFC currently do not have players capable of roughing anybody up and if anything have been too soft. Taylors challenge was a joke? It was mistimed, not agressive. You are talking rubbish.
by Steve Baugh on February 25, 2008
Taylor simply mistimed his tackle,..thats it! Do you deny the right of managers to fire a team up....I'll bet Wenger does it every game. Look at their record.
by Sir Ron Manager on February 25, 2008
Just watch tonights game. See if Everton do to City what they did last time. If Sven plays Elano AND Petrov tonight, lets see what happens. Styles is the ref.
by goondaba on February 25, 2008
No one is implying Taylor intended to break Eduardo's leg, but nevertheless the pictures suggest some malice on his part. His tackle was 1 foot off the groundand above the ball. In one of the pictures, he even appeared to be initially smiling in admiration of his handwork. He learned his craft in the great school of 'english grit' (bruiseburn) where he was schooled on how to 'stop' arsenal. B4 the match, his manager gave a rallying cry reminding them how they must stop arsenal. Then after the event, all the press want to talk about is what wenger said, and how martin is so gentle and could not hurt a fly -- well, dudu is probably less than a fly in the eyes of the english press .. afterall he's foreigner. Now, how about Mike Dean wearing manu colours when he referees arsenal matches .. remember his performance in manu-vs-chelsea match, or his performance in newcastle-vs-arsenal. I wonder why he still gets given arsenal matches. We know its always tough to win the english title, esp. if manu is chasing .. but not for what manu will do, but for what the refs will do for them.
by Dan Johnson on February 25, 2008
by Gunner 77 on February 25, 2008
think managers have to take some blame. The shame about the premiership is that it seems the teams lower down feel that they can never play football against the top sides. It's like it's a given that the only way to stop them is by being a bit physical which is fair enough to a point. McCleish is a manager with a good record for upsets however it does seem that man British managers of teams such a Birmingham, Bolton, Sheff Utd etc do instruct their players to 'et em know your there' It's part of British footballing cuture from Sunday league right to the top. Do you think Erickson, Wenger, Mourihno or Benitez would use such tactics? No because as coaches they are superior and let's face it..more intelligent. ou can lay defensively and stop teams playing without being violent- witness Liverpool and Chelsea's recent play. However I don't think Taylor was going on to maim the player nor was he instructed to, that's ridiculous to assume. It was most probably an unfortunate accident. But no doubt some of is fuelled by managers geeing the players to such an extent prior to the game. Witness the horror challenge on Cechs head last season. Either way was awful to see on Saturday and wishing Eduardo a speedy recovery
by terry ross on February 25, 2008
where did that come from ? you are bang out of order for suggesting mcleish did anyhting like this drivel pull your head in
by Sid Garwood on February 25, 2008
I didn't see the game, either live or on TV. I am an Arsenal fan of about 55 years standing. What amazes me Is that no-one in the press that I have read condemns the tackle (1 foot off the ground and studs showing from the pictures). What they all condemn is a) Arsène Wenger and b) William Gallas for kicking an advertising billboard. Is this what they call a diversionary attack - shifting the blame from good, English Martin Taylor over on those wicked (going to the European Championships) foreigners?
by DON PIROLI on February 25, 2008
Ban the manager of Birmingham City and his henchman Taylor.
by Essexian76 on February 25, 2008
it's only a problem when someones legs gets broken?, intent is equally as bad, yet despite numerous TV replays not one Arsenal player was cited for reckless tackles..no assaults would be a better phrase on Nani...oh silly me he was showboating wasnt he, so thats OK. Why wasnt Adebayor given a red card for assulting his own team mate.Why is it always that Arsenal are the ones being kicked, and never them doing the kicking?, strange how many red cards they've accrued isnt it?.......Two faced I'd say.....one rule for them and one for everyone else. Still a contact sport when I last watched and the player mis-timed a tackle..Eduardo's words not mine!
by bluenose 89 on February 25, 2008
this is amongst the worst article i have read for inciting trouble towards taylor n the blues, n gettin more morons to send taylor death threats, it was a bad tackle n warranted a red card granted, but tackles like that happen EVERY week, in EVERY league in the world, but its rare to see horrific injuries such as what happened to eduardo happen every week people need to grow up, of course big eck would have said something like that, i imagine wenger would have said similar in the arsenal dressing room, but wengers comments have totally blown what has happend out of proportion get well soon eduardo, but do not victimise taylor n BCFC for the tackle KRO SOTV
5-1, made me laugh ;still laughing at the antics of your idiot captain, and laughing till it hurts over the reaction to everyday event at a football match, sorry got to go need to watch the cup victory over Chelsea yesterday.......Come on you Spurs
by willy wonka on February 25, 2008
we were not interested in manu match, and yes I did not watch it out of choice. Of course I am unhappy that the guys chose not to try hard to win that match, and we played a second string team. If manu beats us at home in the league, then I will feel bad. We had to prioritise between the fa-cup and the champions league esp. given our injuries (thanks to 'english grit' we tend to suffer more injuries than most other teams), and I know I prefer the champions league ... so, manu can enjoy their win, just like even spurs beat us when we switched off .. so, whats the big deal (head to head, manu is still not better than us going back 10 years, and spurs, well they are just a source of amusement) ... in the meantime, while '3rd world' croatia and russia qualified, mighty england with its celebrated english grit are sat at home scheming on maiming more foreigners .. hoorah for english football .. sure the greatest in the world .. I suppose the mistake was to discover rugby, and instead of abandoning football we tried to combine both and call it 'english grit' in football ... as we go long, with incidents like what happened to dudu and the clear and obvious xenophobia that is on display to the whole world, we will watch world-wide audiences steadily diminish until we have a meltdown of teams like manyoo .. and then the shit will hit the fan as elite players refuse to come here. Did you read Benzema's reaction when informed that manyoo were considering to come for him at a heavy price tag ? He said 'I am not going there, not for any amount of money .. don't like the way football is played there' .. well, we will get that reaction more and more from elite players .. who wants to come to this place with its terrible weather, only to risk being maimed while the press worry more about how the perpetrator is coping than if the victim will ever play football again. But u are just a dimwit, and this sort of logic is clearly above ur station.
you havent answered any of the facts I've given you, because I'm right as usual. Hypocrite!, now thats a good word, look it up and pin it on your managers chest. As for you, obviously you have a dislike of Englishness and prefer a more continental touch, well simple answer is dont watch English football then if its so ruthless and still the most watched league in the WORLD, Why because its competetive, fast and passionate....and thats why sponsors pay top buck for it...all of these facts must make your head hurt....night night
by finndo wenger on February 26, 2008
taylor should be banned until eduardo is fit
by Jonathan Myers on February 26, 2008
the kind of tackle seen at any league one game evry week. I know I went to see Leyton Orient paly Southend. I think the team talk had been given by Corporal Jones "they don't like it up them"
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