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Why are Watford, Stoke and Bristol City fans all desperate to face humiliation?
As the battle at the top of the Championship hots up, one Hornets fan tells us what it's like to be in the middle of the race to join the big boys in the razzle-dazzle of the Premier League....
by Graham Fisher on 04 March 2008
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I’m a Watford supporter. It’s not my fault, I was born there. I have been a loyal supporter of the Hornets since 1968. I've seen seven promotions and six relegations in that time. I've seen us play in Europe and I've seen us at the bottom of the then division four. I've seen us in the FA Cup final and I've seen us lose three-two at Northwich Victoria in the first round. It has certainly been a roller-coaster ride for nearly 40 years.
When was I happiest? It would be easy to say that I enjoyed the season we finished second behind Liverpool in the old first division. It would be easy to say I enjoyed the European adventure. It would be easy to say I enjoyed getting to the cup final. It is true that I did enjoy those times, but it is equally true to say that I enjoyed the bad times as well.
When we were bottom of the fourth division, playing in front of crowds of 3,000 I really felt like part of a family, part of something special, a small group of people desperately fighting against adversity. I could celebrate a goalless draw as a major achievement and a victory against Workington was better than any European triumph, say, for Manchester United fans.
With success, Watford suddenly discovered another 17,000 fans. It is less easy to feel part of something so big. I still loved it, but I resented those that had jumped on the bandwagon and hadn't been there through the dark times.
I would hate to support a team where success was expected and demanded. When Chelsea lost the Carling Cup final recently their supporters declared a day of mourning and the press declared them to be a club in crisis. That must be awful. I never expect Watford to win, I just expect them to do the best they can, and I'll support them through thick and thin. When watching us draw at home to Preston recently I said for the one hundred and forty third time, "That's it, I'm never going to watch them again." Lo and behold, a day later I was looking forward to the next match and convincing myself we had been unlucky not to win.
That's what being a supporter is all about. You have to have the bad times to appreciate the good ones. I wouldn't swap supporting Watford for any other team in the world. I love them, I hate them, they make me excited and happy, they make me bored and miserable. They infuriate me and they exhilarate me. They are my team.
The one thing I cannot stand as a loyal supporter is seeing my team get humiliated. We’ve had two seasons in the Premier League and we’ve been humiliated in both. Derby are suffering the same fate this season, and does anyone really think that Watford, Bristol City or Stoke wouldn’t suffer the same fate again next season if they go up?
So why are us fans so desperate to win promotion? I hated our last season in the top league, watching my favourite players being made to look stupid. Ask Derby fans if they would rather be challenging for a play-off place in the Championship or watching their side lose 6-0 at Liverpool.
I was going to ask why the clubs themselves want to risk such humiliation, but of course that comes down to finances.
What about the managers and players? Do they want to challenge themselves against the best? Do they want to see if they’re good enough? Well, Watford were eight points clear earlier this season and then started to lose games. West Brom took over at the top, but then started to lose games. Stoke went top, but they have now lost two in a row. It seems that nobody wants to go up!
This weekend West Brom, Charlton and Bristol City won their games, Watford and Ipswich could only manage draws away from home and Stoke lost.
There are some big games in midweek and I’ll be back to review them and see which teams have taken a step further towards the glory, doom and gloom of the Premier League.
Comments (7)
by Andrew Shaw on March 04, 2008
There’s a lot of talk about the humiliation of Derby and Watford etc. But what about the success stories, they are forgotten because the clubs who achieve a prolonged stay in the premiership very quickly transform their image. Since when are Bolton, Boro’, Portsmouth, Wigan (?) premiership big boys, well the simple answer is, when they play well and stay up. They don’t attract 75, 000 each week or sell 2 million shirts in China, but after 3 years in the top division, suddenly they are ‘tough away games’ and ‘solid units’. This is what we cheeky championship punters dream of, and long may we dream. I’m 44 now, if I have to wait the same amount of time since we last graced the top division to watch us play (and lose to maybe) Liverpool, Man u etc, I’ll be sixty ’bleedin’ eight. Well one year ‘up there’, with an option on a decade, this withered old Stokie, will take.
by Peter Baker on March 04, 2008
I have to disagree with you. I haven't been a fan as long you... I haven't been alive as long as you either. But I don't think we humiliated ourselves last season. On the contrary i think we earned a bit of respect off a lot of the big teams. Our biggest defeat was 4-0 away at Man. Utd. We made a better fist of it than Derby are at the moment. Secondly, i want to see us promoted. I can't believe that you don't. Look at Reading, look at Wigan, Bolton, Fulham, Sunderland, Birmingham. Ok we're not talking about Tuesday nights at the San Siro here. But one step at a time. It is possible that we can survive! If Wigan and Reading have been able to do it, why shouldn't we? Do you honestly not enjoy that dream? No matter how remote it might seem. Don't you enjoy that little pang of hope that you get every time you sit back down at Vicarage Road?
by Graham Fisher on March 04, 2008
I do want Watford to get promoted. I'll celebrate with everyone else if we do. It's just in my quieter moments I'm a bit scared about what would happen to us up there. Of course we could survive, but although we didn't get stuffed by too many teams last season, I didn't enjoy watching us lose. The novelty of watching the star names soon wore off for me. Don't get me wrong, a 5-0 win against Norwich tonight and I'll be telling everyone we'll qualify for Europe next season!!
by Gary cornes on March 04, 2008
I want Bristol city to go up and I think its about time people started recognising how far we have come with Gary Johnson. We have been up there all season and not once has someone said Brsitol City are the one to watch. Weve been told the next game was the first challenge to many times. Every game this season has been very hard but city have come through and continued to do so all season. Even if we come straight back down we would have been in top flight football for the first time in 30 years and i was not around then so i think its great and i am loving every bit of the season.
by Shagnasty Hornet on March 04, 2008
I don't think so. ......Just a bigger challenge I'ts very rare that all three promotees go straight back down so there is always hopeof an extended stay and anyway it wasn't at all humiliating for us last season and why should it've been? we faced teams who's players cost more than our entire squad and gave a good account of ourselves despite much bad luck, awful decisions and a really paper thin squad .
by Martman Pyester on March 15, 2008
Reading your article, I can't help but think many of us, from many different clubs, expect to be disappointed at the end of the day. As a mad Stoke fan, I no longer think this way. Not that I want to be in mourning when we lose like the Chelsea muppets, but because the power of positive thinking is addictive and contagious. I turn everybody here in Australia into Stoke fans whether they like it or not. We ARE going up. The rest of you can sit around and wonder what it will be like again in the Championship next season. I am reaching for the stars. Premiership glory. Marty.Narooma .Australia
by graham hassall on April 15, 2008
well, i`ve supported stoke since 1991 and i can count on ONE!,YES,ONE! hand, the amount of seasons we`ve had that ended in success- 2 broken glass trophies and 2 promotions!!! Therefore, this stoke fan will be delighted to see his 1st true love get in the premiership this season- even if it means seeing us get tonked on a regular basis next season!! You see- it`s all about the pride of seeing the premiership logo on our shirt, and i`ll remember the promotion party long after the wounds of defeat have healed!!And i`d rather get beat by man utd & villa than QPR & burnley. All you supporters without the stomach for what derby have been getting can have your`e nice comfy league season in the championship- i`m ready for the big time & hopefully a few clean sheets!!!
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