The best teams take on all comers no matter what style they play and come out on top. The pups often complain while the top dogs just get on with things!

Yet again a rubbish article from a rubbish site by someone who hasn't got a clue about football and has probably never played the game.

What a ridiculous article,now that arsenal are losing they are whinging?we have lost 2 games in the league this season u idiot so since when have we been losing ,and yes liverpool have played defensively against us so far and have had the rub of the green on the decisions this is a fact, and yes we do play attractive football compared to the pool ,and yes it is also a fact that we had up to 65% of the ball in the 1st CL game when liverpool parked a bus in there penalty box but we could not score, but all that is commended by fools like u who praise mediocre footballers and knock the talented ones. this is why the english team will never win anything. And one further point i dont forsee the pool playing 11 men behind the ball on tue but i dont expect them to be all attack either, they will play 10 behind the play and try to catch the arsenal on the break.

exactly right

one of the most engaging pieces i have ever read on sportingo. the gooners also resort to the below - 'he's an arsenal player in a 'anohter teams' shirt - disgusting.

A raw nerve has clearly been touched! Look, if your team insists on HOOFING the ball and playing Chelsea style dull football, you've got to expect people to comment on it. I was getting texts throughout the first leg from people about how rubbish your 'style' of play is. If that's how you wanna play - fine! Just don't get annoyed when people tell it like it is.

I used to like seeing Liverpool turn up - they came for a game played good football and took us on. Now they play like Bolton lite. Its reasonable to complain when the other team BREAK the rules - Kuyt & Lucas both conceded penalties that werent given. Even the scousers accepted that Skirtl deserved a bookin gin the 2nd minute for the foul on Theo that the ref missed along with about another 5 in the second half around their pen area. Although he was a Tott (only because the Arsenal board wouldnt pay the money his previous club wanted Danny Blanchflower was right - trophies are important but glory makes you live forever)

what so because arsenal play good football and dont resort to kicking people and hoofing the ball long every five minutes they are snobs, surely that is a bit rich. To be honest i would rather warch an arsenal team play good football week in week out and come 2/3rd in the league than watch a liverpool team put 10 men behind the ball at all times and very occasionally attack on the break, which consists of a big hoof forward. at least arsenal fans get to watch good football every week and not win the premiership as apose to liverpool fans that watch shit boring football everyweek and win nothing either! a touch of jealousy in this article i think, if the team you supported played good football you woudl love it, i think if anythign you are slighlty jealous

Arsenal havent won anything since 2005 and that it will be 2009 before they do.......

me thinks the article was created by a manc not a scouser-it's the manure lovers who have a problem with us being lauded as the supreme entertainers-time after time they come on these blogs claiming it's them with the jealousy seeping out of them--a genuine liverpool fan would understand great football-just look at their teams of the 70's & 80's!!

pass and move its the liverpool groove. LMFAO

Mmmm, some of it I agree, most of it I don't. Not having a plan B is correct. As a gooner, i am sick and tired of matches where teams defend as it is always such a frustratingly poor quality game. Our results tend to be disappointing in these kind of games and we need to learn to cope with that and still grind out results. I don't want our team to spend ridiculous amounts of money on summer signings but I would like to see about 2 signings of real quality in the form of a leader (like an Adams or a Viera). These were the kind of guys who always picked the team up and made sure they did grind out results against the opposing team bus parked up against the goal. Our current leader is a former Chelski Romanian, whose idea of leading by example is slagging off the manager at the start of the season for not strengthening, sulking on the pitch cause he did not like a penalty decision and kicking a Lucozade bottle into next week. I disagree that we are snobs who think we are better than everyone else, we leave that title to the Man Ures and the Chelskis of this world who are made up of a collection of the stars of everyone elses football team. They are a rich mans plaything whose managers job description reads, "To watch match of the day and whoever Alan Hansen praises, you must spend £30 million on at the next transfer deadline. Nobody else below the top 4 must be able to keep their star players. If we can't field them ourselves, we'll just stick them on the bench, just so long as nobody else benefits from them. If we discover other clubs are interested in these players, we'll just keep outbidding them until they give up no matter what the cost and then when we stare at our silverware later, we can tell everyone it's because we are the best that we won this and that (and we won't mention the small matter about how much money we have spent because all that is irrelevant really. We still would have won these trophies even if we hadn’t spent a penny” At least Arsenal is run with some class and dignity.

You had 65% possessesion blah blah blah , but with all that possession you still couldnt win

Truth is that for all their spending Liverpool are still years away from winning the league. A trophy they have been spending a fortune on without success for how many years? Oh yes I suppose that come Auguist they will be repeating the mantra "This is going to be our year". Dear me thay are beginning to sound like spuds.

I watched the game on Sat and I actually remember seeing Liverpool playing most of the football. Apart from a couple of promising counter-attacks that were wasted by awful finishing where was the elegant football? Secondly, I agree with the article's title - Arsenal are snobs. All Jamie Carragher has to do is pass the ball more than 5 yards and the fans are screaming hoof. Suppose that's the best you can expect from the gooners though - not the most intelligent fans.

We may not have won but with all that possession eventually we will, maybe at anfield tommorow?! I think liverpool were lucky last week, and not for a miscontrol would have lost saturday. And as for snobs... thats a silly statement. I take the rough with the smooth, we have no devine right to the premiership or CL just because we played half a season of great football. But its not over yet... we're hanging in there, i think we've shown great charactor over the last few weeks, we've had disapointing results when maybe we didnt deserve them. We're still there, and with a huge roll left to play in where the CL and Prem trophies end up this season. The fact is liverpool have been defensive in the last 3 matches against us, which from a liverpool perspective is disapointing as that prob means that Rafa doesnt believe his team can beat arsenal by playing there normal football, wether that be at anfield or the emirates.... As for no signings in Jan, i dont think we needed to sign anyone, but we probebly should have kept Diarra. Arsene's not being a snob by not bringing in players, he just belives in the players hes got, instead of stiffiling the young players he already has, he kept faith with them, if he needed a player he'd use a youngster. If all the youngsters were english im sue you wouldnt be complaining about it.

I also seem to remember us battering pool 6-3 and 3-1 at Anfield, also 3-0 at the Grove. We know we have issues defensively and don't bitch when defensive lapses cost us, just referees and teams that play dull football.

iam a good boy

Liverpool are top scorers in the champions league, have scored more goals in all competitions than Arsenal. Not bad for a team that don't attack. Just cos the arse have got dross like Bentner and Walcott who needs around 20 chances to score a goal

snob Show phonetics noun [C] MAINLY DISAPPROVING a person who respects and likes only people who are of a high social class, and/or a person who has extremely high standards who is not satisfied by the things that ordinary people like: By your definition, anyone who has ambition, and doesn't settle for ordinary standards, then yes I'll quite happily be called a snob. You use snobbery as a way to try and deride Arsenal and their followers. Do Arsenal have high standards, higher than most n the league? Yes. If you want to disapprove of that...please do.. I disapprove of boring, uninspiring football. I wouldn't say Liverpool are guilty of that before you start jumping to conclusions. You've clearly used a derisory term to draw direct criticism of the team, and your view is so slanted and un-objective and uses negativity to inspire snobbishness toward Arsenal as if the reader is better informed, a poor attempt at anti-Arsenal propaganda....keep it up ;)

Now go back to the chip shop, there are punters that need serving.

As far as I know, defence and attack are both parts of playing football. And I don't think Liverpool plays defensively. If you guys want to believe in statistics, then, LFC has scored so far 105 goals this season, and has the highest number of goal attempts this season, even higher tan MUTD. It is a mere case of visual perception. I think it is more "attacking" to wait in your field and not let the other team progress to your goal. In fact, qhen you defend, you are attacking, whereas the part of the field. Again, sorry 'bout my English.

I watch football to be entertained. If its an entertaining match I can take a defeat on the chin. Results are obviously a bonus but I'd rather watch a good attacking fluid stylish match. Arsenal's one two football is GLORIOUS when it comes off. I don't understand how Arsenal are snobs...they aspire to play total football, the beautiful game. Liverpool have not been anywher enear beautiful in the games against Arsenal recently. Hoofing it to Torres may work one in every 10 times and effectively playing 6 men in defence got Liverpool a draw, but as a fan aren't you bored by this? When Arsenal face a team who don;t dare leave their own half, or jump into ferocious tackles they have every right to complain. Their style has been compromised. If Liverpool were forced to play all their football along the floor I think we'd hear a few complaints.

I agree completely with your comments. I love Arsenal and respect Wenger's skills as a manager, but I think his refusal to see reality is at the bottom of why Arsenal always displays a beautiful game but in the end fails to be part of the small group of elite football teams like Man United, Real Madrid, Barcelona,Milan and a few others. Sometimes you have to play ugly and get the results. As much as I loved Bergkamp,Henry and Pires, they would not have conquered anything if it weren't for Ry Parlour, Martin Keown,Sol Campbell and Viera.

Yes, Nil Nil v Man Utd when you killed the game stone dead......Amazing how some fans seem to forget about that isnt it??? What you actually lack is a Keown / Adams.....You have so little bottle in the side and forget that when you were winning trophies it was the less capable palyers who were arguably the reason you did!

Seriously, whoever wrote this article please never write one again. Its just embarassing...

Write a retort then mate, this is a fan site...

"it's the manure lovers who have a problem with us being lauded as the supreme entertainers" LOL! Theres no team in the world better than an on song united you muppet. Arsenals style is to play hoardes of short passes in defensive midfield and then bitch and moan when they're tackled. A pile of girls they are. As much as i hate the scousers (which is a lot) I think theres more players in the arse I hate. Just look at crybaby gallas, or fabregas- the most overrated player of the millenium ( seriously at liverfool he give the ball away 18 times, scholes has never done that in his career)

One thing i do know is arsenal have had no luck this season, on and off the pitch. Getting riddled with long-term injuries to vital players, being on the end of really poor refereeing (the latest 2 liverpool games for example) and on numerous occasions arsenal have 15-20 shots and get 1 goal, obviously a large amount of it is down to poor finishing ill admit, but their luck in front of goal has been dire recently. And on top of that the visiting team has 1 shot and gets 1 goal. And they have no grit?! So that carling cup match comeback vs blackburn showed no grit? or the comeback vs bolton? Or against man utd? Or AC Milan? Or late one vs villa?...need i go on? Two losses all season, which could so easily have been none? Now if i remember right, thats the least of any team in the league. So if they are doing so poorly and cant handle defensive teams like u say, then what ur suggesing is they are so good they should win everything as theyve only lost 2? Arsenal play as a team with obvious determination and desire. They never, ever give up. 2-0 down with 10men in pouring rain with 35mins left vs bolton and end up winning 3-2? Please if thats not determination what is. Oh and by the way, could the writer of this article possible be any more biased...

I heard a quote from Kuyt saying arsenal are probably the best team in europe at the moment. Thats from someone whose actually played football, a true sportsman. Maybe you should follow in his footsteps.

LOL,,, trust some geezer who runs a chip shop to wrtie something like this. Salt n Vinegar please mate, and a saveloy. 1 pound eh? Bargain, cheerz bruv ;)

I've heard alot from the gooners that their team are playing beutiful football. Well, isn't it just like headless chicken running around beautifully? What's the point that you can score or win if you just play beautiful football? Go be an entertainer or actor instead. Just take a look, for all the football entertaining, arsenal can only score with set pieces while liverpool scored through open play, what a shame. Football is about winning. You don't win you don't get anything. Live with it gooners.

The writer isn't saying Arsenal are snobs for playing good football, he is saying they are snobs for critisizing teams that don't. I think the response from Arsenal fans retty much proves his point, pretty much arguing they would rather watch the pretty football than win........ 2005 FA cup final, ground out the result and won on penalties - That was Arsenal in the last trophy they won. That's 3 years and possibly even more for a team that plays the best football in the world to be unsuccessful, isn't it??? Especially when the last trophy was won in that manner. What if Arsenal go to Anfield and grind out a result that gets them to the semis, should we expect Arsenal fans and players to get upset cos they are in the semis but playing poor football, or will they be happy to be in the semis???

the last time Liverpool won the championship. Rafa Benitez has no clue about talent, having rotated about five starting 11's worth of players through Liverpool in 3+ years. You came out of the past two games better than anyone expected, and you're complaining??? What sore winners!!! And I'm not exhibiting snobbery, I'm criticizing your attrocious bad manners.

We like watching beautiful football, what's wrong with that? Ok it doesn't guarantee success but nor does hoofing it long and playing Wrestlemania tactics in your own box. Win or lose, I know which I'd rather watch week in week out and you would too!

6-3, B-Team, nuff said... your arrogance will be your undoing tonight. CL team my Arse.

6-3 is all good and well, we were destroyed by a much better team on the day, but did you win a trophy that year...? no. And have you won a trophy since then...? no. Fair enough, theres a small outside chance you'll get a result tonight, but after that its chelsea, and after that its man u or barca, and arsene wenger just hasnt got the tactical nouse to beat top teams consistently over two legs, and thats why he will never lift that glorious trophy that is covered in stevie g's fingerprints

Liverpool have scored 101 goals so far this season. Even in their pomp in 70s and 80s they didn't score like that. Non-liverpool fans all suffer from a inferiority complex. You all want to support liverpool, but some misguided loyalty and sheer ignorance has led you to support a team that will never match their honour-roll.

So the Gooners were happy to have beaten us on the league cup winning 6-3 and now on the champions league, they got trashed 4-2. Lolllllllllllllllllllllll

Cetainly not these bunch with the likes of senderos! who know nothing about defending. AW needs a wake-up call. I think his time at Arsenal may be up.

Ragish i wouldn't call it a thrashing, it was a close game, it was a credit to both clubs. Not may clubs come to Anfield in Europe and score to goals which for Arsenals play tonite they deserved but we march on to face Chavski, Murph Nolan, as your referee incompetence remark, the ref's in the 2 games were different people Hleb in the first leg did make the most of it but still was a peno so was Babel's 2nite end off. Experience told in the vital stages in the end although Walcott's run was a unreal and deserved what came to it a goal.

Look here arsenal fans, the article doesn't critisize your style of play, it just says that it is never going to win you many trophies, especially in today's very tactical game. And stop gunning (no pun intended...) liverpool's style; yes it may not be as touch and go as arsenal's but it worked for all the CONSISTENTLY successful teams of the past. Name me one consistently successful team of the past that has played attractive footy all the time.... and please....arsenal have resorted to the using the long ball several times this year with adebayor upfront... just get over yourselves and accept that yes you play pretty, but you don't play effective, and effective wins you the cups.

of playing your so-called beautiful football when you can't even get a result? ref's against you? no. we all have days like that, but no one whines the way arsenal does.. its about time arsenal players and fans grow up, and instead learn to play EFFECTIVE football.. you can only make fans happy by winning games, not by passing the ball among yourselves for 85 mins and scoring in the 90th min... and yea, about rafa rotating the sqaud, it worked well against your "confident tireless" players... so be gracious in defeat and give credit where it's due

You can winge at us Liverpool fans for as long as you want about penalty decisions but in the cold light of day we dont give the penalties we just convert them.

No money u idiots no wingers 2 out of 3 first choice strikers out right back out see how u go without Torres 3 quarters of a billion 4 a new stadium over the last 3 years not to bad a record on and off the field with that out lay

u better hope we build Emerites2 if we don,t see where the likes off Torres goes when Arsenal can pay equal wages

You say this as if AW's tactics killed Arsenals season, when they finished 4 points off 1st, and the only thing that let them down was the odd spell of complacency. Accusing AW of beeing snobbish just because he wants to play the style of football he does is uneccessary, i think at the beginning of the season the team showed that they could rough it, its just that resources were streched towards the end of the season, inwhich AW was foolish in selling and not buying in January, he obviously underestimated the effects of that decision, but dont by any means confuse that with snobbery.