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by James Mortimer on 25 August 2008
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The All Blacks can boast only one World Cup win, while their two greatest foes - South Africa and Australia - have both recorded two. But if you listen to their supporters, the weight attributed to these triumphs is completely biased and does not take into account any other games.
Of course, the World Cup's conspicuous absence since 1991 from New Zealand’s trophy cabinet is a sore point, but not as big a deal as some other nations make out. For some strange reason, despite being the youngest World Cup of all professional sports, no other trophy, competition or match in the world matters. At least, not according to South Africans, English or Australians.
In 1987, the All Blacks won the inaugural World Cup, and did so convincingly – albeit without the presence of South Africa, a fact that all New Zealanders readily admit. However, it is disappointing that South African supporters state this at every opportunity, despite the fact that it was only New Zealand who defied international conventions and still fielded teams to play the banned Springboks.
Much as I personally disagreed with South Africa being prevented from playing, the Gleneagles convention had banned them for reasons beyond rugby, and that is history that cannot be overturned.
The point to derive from this is that with the concept of team and pool draws, you will not have to always play the toughest opponent to win a World Cup. If the All Blacks did not have to do it in 1987, then the same applies to the Springboks' recent World Cup win, where they did not have to play their toughest opponents - the All Blacks, Wallabies and hosts France.
Statistically, the All Blacks are the greatest World Cup holders so far. They convincingly defeated a very powerful French side in the final, 29-9. It would not be until August 18, 1990 that New Zealand would taste defeat.
In four years of championship reign, they won 26 games, drew one, and lost two – both to the Wallabies. With each of those losses, the New Zealand media and public was damning, saying it was a blight on the World Cup win. A blight – a stain.
Since then, the Wallabies and Springboks have won the trophy twice, and there is a significant difference between the championship reigns of these two teams.
The Australians have, like the All Blacks, done the championship proud. Their win in 1991 was the turning point in their history and the ushering in of a new world rugby power. In four years they lost only four games. In 1999, after their second World Cup win, they had the greatest period in their history – beating the British Lions, and claiming the Tri-Nations and Bledisloe Cups more times in the next four years than any other period in history.
However, the Springboks are truly poor defenders of what they would call the world’s premier trophy. In 1995, they beat the odds to defeat a mighty All Black team, but the following year they played their greatest enemy in five Test matches and lost four of these games, including three in succession in South Africa. They then capitulated to the British Lions a year later – as well as losing to the All Blacks twice more.
Is a pattern becoming clear? So far this year the ''world champions'' have lost to both the All Blacks and Wallabies twice, a very poor start to their reign. With it likely to be the only trophy in their cabinet for some time, maybe we should give the South Africans the leeway to fall back on their nine-point defeat of the English.
In every other major team sport there are world championships, but they do not hold precedence. In cricket, ask Australia or England what they would rather hold, a world championship or the Ashes? Ask India, would they prefer the world championship or the Border Gavaskar trophy?
Equally with soccer, after the European Championship, do Italy stand quoting their world championship success? Not with Spain and Germany contesting a quality final and now being the two top-ranked teams in the world. The Euro Championship is infinitely harder to win than the World Cup, and the soccer world knows it.
So it must be with rugby. Wales are Six Nations Grand Slam champions, the oldest international competition in world rugby – and they deserve their credit. But, unfortunately for them, they did lose twice to South Africa, which does tarnish their kudos. But it is not an easy tournament to win, with an immense history between the foes, especially the original five nations.
Having said that, the Tri-Nations is the hardest tournament in world rugby to win. To succeed, you must take the scalp of the All Blacks, Springboks or Wallabies in their own backyards – statistically the three hardest locations in the world to win. But even on the cusp of either the Wallabies or All Blacks claiming the title, there is still no credit coming from the South African public.
If New Zealand do, in fact, lift the trophy in Brisbane – where they have an 80 per cent winning percentage (is there anyone against whom the All Blacks do not have a positive winning ratio, or any place?) – it will be their ninth Tri-Nations title since its inauguration in 1996.
Equally, if the All Blacks retain the Bledisloe Cup, it will be their 36th title in 48 attempts. Sure, New Zealand would love another World Cup but there is equal significance placed on both the Bledisloe and the Tri-Nations.
Unlike a world championship, there is no easy game in a Bledisloe or Tri-Nations. That is, unless you have to play in South Africa.
Comments (9)
by Loti Garonne on August 26, 2008
On the contrary, it is New Zealand who are obsessed with winning the world cup and the three nations who have won it most recently delight in reminding them of their failure. Nobody would deny who are the best nation in world rugby, but as long as N.Z obsess over the matter, we shall continue to have our fun !
by Brad on August 26, 2008
The All Blacks are a team of champions not a champion team there mentality come world cup time is pathetic they are so weak... ok so they win most games between the world cups cool but a champion team would go on to win especially with a team with names like Carter, Hayman, McCaw and Collins, the team the all blacks had should have played the springboks in the final and thrashed them by 20 thats how good they were but they didnt and what goes on up stairs is anyones guess you can take whatever statistics you have but there is no doubt the ABS to weak up stairs to win a world cup and considering the next one is in nz they have no chance in hell. New Zealand are most obsessed with the world cup because rugby is the only sport there good at and to say the Aussie care about the rugby world cup is a joke rugby is a 3rd tier sport in Aussie. The All Blacks overated?
by Kiwi Smiwi on August 26, 2008
Disappointed yes, obsessed? Hardly. Th worlds media are the ones who place the ABs on the pedastal, re-read the columns and comments the world over leading up to world cups and ex-rugby stars, rugby commentators, fans come out of the wood-work labelling them unbeatable. It grates me seeing them depicted in such light. They may be formidable most of the time but most Kiwis can sense when they are there for the taking. Last year Kiwi critics questioned taking players out of the Super 14, rotating the squad so much and also the teams tactics. Of course we still support them, much like the Aussies when they unbelievably lost the Ashes to the English and have now been trumped in the Olympic medal tables by the Brits. It may be a 3rd tier sport in Aussie but considering NZ has less people than Sydney you'd have no idea what its like to punch above your weight. Plus why don't you send back some of those Kiwi league players filling your NRL rosters...be interesting to see what tier NRL falls into then...
by Brad on August 27, 2008
Please beaten by the brits whats that 4 countries rolled into 1 and im pretty sure they beat us in sports like cycling i mean please what a joke of a sport. It doesnt matter how many people live in New Zealand compared to Aus, rugby is played only by private schools in NSW and Qld with the other states all Afl mad even the super 14 teams are started poaching League players because no talent is coming through really shows how strong Aussie rugby is. Oh and you can have your league players back there all crap just have a look at your league team. I shouldnt be to mean though Aussies love the kiwis coming here to work the low paid labourers jobs here in Aussie
by Blair Adams on August 27, 2008
Brad- I'm guessing you have never lived in another country? As for the dig at Kiwi's in all the low paying jobs...I'm gathering they took a role from you. Lets face it mate those Kiwi's are better than us at the game of rugby. Good on them!! I agree that the world media has hyped them up but that is with good reason.....they win! Be it they have not won the World Cup since 87 but how can we say they are chokers when each WC it's a different team that takes the field. Much like you I use to bag anything not Australian or anything I didn’t understand. I hope we win in 2 weeks with our Kiwi coach but if we don't then I'll be happy in knowing that it's our ANZAC BROTHERS that take the Tri-Nations.
by Brad on August 28, 2008
They do choke have a look at the team they take to each world cup i believe last year they had the best 15 players in the world without a doubt.. They had Woodcock Hore Hayman and compare that to Dunning Moore Robinson i mean common matt dunning is buggered after the warm ups and i only compared the front row.
by Blair Adams on August 29, 2008
Brad-ok so you’re comparing the front rows of two teams that did not face each other in the competition! France knocked NZ out and to be fair that French side, the way they played and the passion behind them, would have beaten any team in the world (on that night). That being said it did not come without its price- 9 French players from the starting 15 injured after the game. If that's what it took to beat these so called 'Chokers' then I feel this stigma is some what stale. Anyway this talk takes away from an excellent French win. Lets face it the next week England had an easy go against a smashed up French team. Not forgetting that SA had a very easy run throughout the competition. If you still what to argue this lets agree to disagree....actually no go Google how many players NZ carried over each word cup...I think you might be surprised. Go the Green and Golds !!
by Strums on August 31, 2008
Let's put things into prospective here...95 world cup the boks had to beat Aus, France and the All Blacks to win it.. In between the 95-99 world cups the sport went pro.. The whole world knows that NZ players were practically there already and most of them were being paid.. Dan retief predicted a period of NZ dominance in the 99's due to this fact. Also throw in the fact that the Kitch cristie the boks coach, died of cancer shortly afterwards. There was a player protest and 8 of the starting 15 for the boks were sacked.. Enter politics in sport... the rest is history.... Politics are responsible for allot of poor results in between world cups in SA, it has nothing to do with the world champion status
by Keith Wawn on September 05, 2008
Blair, just to correct your statement that the Boks had the easy run-in, during the RWC last year, we had the current RWC champions in our pool, along with Samoa and Tonga, who are very physical sides, as well as the only really weak team in the pool, the USA. Compare that with the All Blacks run-in of Italy, Portugal, Scotland and Romania. Judge for yourself. It was scripted thus to allow the All Blacks to cruise through to the final, but they blew the match against France, which they looked like winning by 50 points in the first 20, but fell away for some reason thereafter. By the time the ref allowed the forward pass to decide the game, the All Blacks should have been out of sight! There is no doubt that the Kiwis had the best team on paper, but it’s the ability to finish that has eluded them since 1987. They, however, remain a high quality rugby nation, and it is their rugby that has put New Zealand on the map. I love the haka, and so do most of South Africans. Youngsters growing up here consider it the pinnacle of their life’s achievement to face it, dressed in the green and gold of the Springboks. Look at Francois Steyn’s reaction every time he faces it. He grins because he loves the experience so much! The rugby world would be that much poorer without the mighty All Blacks brand.
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