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by Sean Bowman on 03 July 2008
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There are some mouth-watering head-to-head encounters lined up for Saturday's Tri-Nations opening game in Wellington. The battle at scrum and lineout time, the scrap for the loose ball at ruck time, the tactical kicking, line-breaking and defence from the backs - and much, much more. Let's line the two teams up and see who has the edge…
Tony Woodcock v CJ van der Linde: Woodcock silenced his critics from a fairly average Super 14 with some outstanding performances for the All Blacks in June. He has the ability to attack the tighthead prop and help the All Black scrum gain the ascendancy. Not nearly as mobile as Van der Linde around the park, but his scrummaging ability gives him the upper hand. Verdict: Woodcock shades it (ABs 1-0 Boks)
Brad Thorn v Bakkies Botha: The two enforcers are two of best of their kind playing the game as they run around the field smashing into rucks, crashing into tackles and fronting up to the challenge of the opposing packs. Overall, though, Botha shades out Thorn in every department. He's a little quicker, a little meaner and a whole lot better at the lineouts. Verdict: Botha (ABs 2-2 Boks)
Ali Williams v Victor Matfield: If there's one match Williams didn't want to come limping into, it's the one against the Springboks. ]Williams carries the All Black lineout responsibilities and has been far from convincing for them in '08. He's up against the best lineout forward in world rugby in Matfield and, although his loose game is handy, he should come off second best at the set pieces by a long way. Matfield is a class act is on his way to being regarded as the best ever. Verdict: Matfield (ABs 2-3 Boks)
Sitiveni Sivivatu v Bryan Habana: Another of the great match-ups in the game. Both are incredibly hard to put down and can score from just about anywhere on the park. Sivivatu probably edges Habana with his ability to brush aside defenders while Habana's unbelievable pace makes him harder to catch. Habana edges this one due to having a better all-round game on attack and defence. Verdict: Habana (ABs 4.5-9.5 Boks)Mils Muliaina v Conrad Jantjes: Muliaina likes to run the ball from the back and his ability to join the line on attack and counter with ball in hand make him a far more dangerous runner than the more conservative Jantjes. The Bok fullback, while not as elusive on attack, is rock solid on defence and has a superior kicking game. Two very different players with Muliaina just taking the head to head battle on experience at Test level. Verdict: Muliaina (ABs 5.5 -9.5 Boks)There you have it - the Boks shading the Head2Head battles by a comfortable margin. Peter de Villiers' men probably also have the edge courtesy of some well settled combinations running through the spine of the team. But the All Blacks will be looking to their new caps to pump some life into the team and will be quietly confident that they can extend their winning streak at home over the Springboks.
Comments (24)
by Lemon Squeezer on July 04, 2008
On what basis do you ground your previous statements that the Springboks were stronger than the AB's during the amateur era Strums?Also since your so keen on excuses I trust you know that no maori or polynesians were allowed to play in SA before the 1970's, thereby depriving the Blacks of many of theyre best players.Of course theres also the minor fact that many of the boks home tests against AB's were actually controlled by SOUTH AFRICAN REFERREES.
by Iain Carmichael on July 04, 2008
Although I agree with most of your comments Strums, rugby's a team game. It's about combinations, and so rating individuals against each other provides a skewed perspective. The Boks probably do have the edge, but if you rate front row against front row, and then the same for second row, back row, half-back pairing, centre combination and the back three, it's a lot closer.
by strums on July 04, 2008
Lemon, you are showing your age again san..Im not going to argue on stupid comments.. The boks beat the all blacks more time that the all blacks beat the boks in the amateur era.. ITS THAT SIMPLE.. look it up on Wilkapedia.
Hide from the facts if you like strums.
facts speak for themselves.. AB's win ratio against the boks was 48% in that era and in fact at the time you won that hollow worldcup in 87.. What dont you understand or am i missing something? I dont argue the fact that in the professional era your team has been stronger than the boks, but you cant be blinded to what happend over a century on the fact you have had better results within the last decade
by Andre on July 04, 2008
ha ha.. Lemon you are an idiot
by Lemon Squeezer on July 05, 2008
Youre missing the point that the All Blacks were the most successful rugby team in history at the end of the amateur era with a 70.7% win ratio against all nations while boks come in second place with a 62% win rate.Just because you win two matches more than we had against you doesnt mean jack when youre record against the rest of the world is so inferior.
In a previous post you yourself said that the AB's were greatest Rugby team over a 100 years Strums, so which is it? 10 years or 100?
by Bokkie Basher on July 06, 2008
Strums youre a muppet. "facts speak for themselves.." Indeed they do so why are you ignoring the current facts pushing an outdated tally? "you won that hollow worldcup in 87.." Nice choice of world considering you currently hold the same hollow cup.! "but you cant be blinded to what happend over a century on the fact you have had better results within the last decade" Nor can you with intension to do deflect from your current results.
on July 06, 2008 on July 06, 2008
Well done Kiwi fans, bet you are loving it and so you should.. Feeling guttered as you would expect.. some fine displays by many of the boys in black and some shocking ones by the men in green.. there is one person i blame for our performance in the second half and that's our coach, but anyway not one for excuses the AB's were awesome. Im really pleased we get another crack at you blokes, its a pity bad Brad wont be playing as im sure he was due some special treatment next week. Also B Basher, read all the comments from your brainless countryman Lemon.. He is the one that started that banter by saying we had a hollow worldcup, so i thought i would point out that if everybody was as stupid as that then they would beleive the 87 cup was just as hollow
by Lemon Squeezer on July 06, 2008
There you go telling lies again strums saying I started all this crap. 'by strums on July 01, 2008 Actually they are true world champions, yes i agree that not playing one of our SANZAR partners took some of the shine off the win but come on.. NZ lost to France and Aus lost to Eng.. is that our fault? No at the end of the day NZ lost to the french AGAIN and didnt deserve to be in the semi finals.. That is what a world cup is all about.. When it comes down to the "BIG" match temp NZ simply crumble, is that a sign of the "BEST" team in the world? All Ive tried to do is bring your attention to the facts, since your such a bloody ostrich!
by Lemon Squeezer on July 07, 2008
Of course its not the boks fault we lost the QF, they played what was in front of them and won the cup deservedly but to forever go on and on about the Boks being 'World Champions'and therefore the best team in the world based solely on that result is ridiculous.
by strums on July 07, 2008
Your boys should win it one day lemon dont worry
by Lemon Squeezer on July 08, 2008
Get your glasses on again Strums, the first word stencilled into the top of that damn cup is NEW ZEALAND.
by ksp on July 08, 2008
lemonsqueezer, your comments litter pretty much all these articles champ. contrary to your belief, there are actually other valid opinions out there buddy
Yep Ive said enough.
by Brad on July 08, 2008
Why would Brad Thorn be in for special threatment next week..? Because he dumped John Smit please you need to take a look in your own backyard Bakkies Botha is the biggest grub in international rugby only because his playing ability is average other than the cheap shops hes pretty crap i believe Victor Matfield makes him look good!
by Strums Rubgy on July 08, 2008
you are entitled to your opinon Brad.. However im sure you would feel the same way if one of the boks took out your cpt for 3 weeks in a cheap shot which was un called for.. PS: lemon you are still and idiot
by Lemon Squeezer on July 09, 2008
No strums youre the idiot smit got the whatup from big brad for laying hands on him in the first place. Glad our boys stood up to boks like that, love seeing smit dumped on his back, loved seeing sooialo taking a swing back at januarie, for too long weve turned the other cheek to your dirty off the ball tactics. Expect to see more fireworks next week, enough is enough.