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by Donna Gee on 04 July 2007
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by Alejander on June 26, 2007
Ma chère amie: I see that you miss the French Super 14 were most of the real Pumas were playing at the time they play Ireland in Buenos Aires. From my part I’m very worry about the pumas because the are a big question mark, the amater game is dificult to measure to say the least. The irish are no suprise they will put a good fight but in the end they will lose as always. See you in Paris.
by Vernon on June 26, 2007
This is funny, theres no way Ireland can win the world cup. It will be either the AB's or the Boks, with the Wallabies a distant third chance. Anyone who puts their money on Ireland is an idiot, theyre a bunch of second stringers. Sure B.O.D. is a good player, but I lost all respect for him following his crybaby antics after the 2005 British Lions Tour.
by Dan Gan on June 26, 2007
the question was whether ireland will do well, not whether they will win the world cup... and yes i think they will do well due to recent results showing that they have the potential to beat any side besides the all blacks. Yes SOME of the argentinian players were in the french league but they still had a few players playing who would definitely have a starting place in their side. One of them you could say is Felipe Contepomi (starting flyhalf for leinster who possess a world class backline) who basically won the game for the argentinians in the first "test" by a minor few points through a drop goal. The second test the argentinians were reinforced with players back from the french league and ireland were without a playmaking flyhalf Paddy Wallace and were left to recruit Ireland A flyhalf Jeremy Staunton (3rd choice flyhalf in ireland)... and for ireland?? not a single player starting was from the 6 nations starting XV.. you couldn't even say andrew trimble, geordan murphy or jerry flannery are starting pl
by Shane Robinson on June 27, 2007
Second stringers? Can I ask where you hail from? If it's England then back in your box, particularly after the hammering we dealt in Croke Park recently. We are on the rise and 'second stringers' is a comment borne of ignorance with little thought. Of Ireland and the three in the UK, we are streets ahead. I hope we can beat France, they seem to have the pox on us, thus avoiding the Blacks until later in the tournament. It would be a waste to play them at the 1/4 final stage. We've already proven we are more than a match for both the Boks and Wallabies so stick that second stringers comment where it belongs, you clearly have no idea what you are on about
by Dan Gan on June 28, 2007
this is to continue from my last comment due to lack of space >players as they are utility bench warmers except for flannery who was simply 2nd to Best. i've heard many times again and again that argentina had put out a weakened side but in my opinion NO weaker than the irish side. Enjoy your glory for now Argentina because it will all be over by the World Cup when Ireland will actually be fielding world class opposition.
by Terence O'Rorke on June 28, 2007
This article is ill-informed. Firstly, English fans are well-aware that Ireland sent a developement squad to Argentina, so the two losses did not come as a major surprise. Secondly, you under-estimate how difficult it is to beat the Pumas in Argentina, even when they are also missing key players. Thirdly, of course Argentina have a realistic chance against Ireland in the World Cup. They may be a forward-focused team, but with Pichot, Contepomi and Hernandez in their back-line they are also a major threat behind the scrum. All the northern hemisphere tours this summer have been meaningless as an indicator for the RWC because they have all feature weakened teams and the Ireland tour was no different.
by Claudio Branc on June 28, 2007
Dan, what makes you think that Ireland will happily win against the Pumas? have you seen the game at Lens (RWV'99)?? and the last one?? Ireland lost the first and won the second but only by a single point!!! it will be an open match. neither showed how they will play in France, neither disclosed their real tactics, so do not cry and do not be surprised if the men in green lose.
Ireland have come a long way from the days of '99 and '03 with a much more balanced and settled side. argentina have always focussed tactically on using their forwards and ireland are more than capable of dealing up front. The majority of players in irelands backline will outclass those of Argentinas so technically i still believe that argentina will still not scavenge out a win and ill be able to save my tears for another day.. but for u it might be quite the opposite..
by Vernon on June 29, 2007
In answer to your question, I'm a kiwi. Youve never beaten us
by peter on June 29, 2007
I'm English,and after England would love Ireland to win the world cup.
by jules on June 29, 2007
Ireland couldn't beat France in Dublin. What chance do they have in front of 80,000 French in Stade de France? Home advantage will always mean the home team will have the edge.
by Shane Robinson on June 29, 2007
We beat you there quite recently Jules so I would say we have a better chance than at home. Anyway, if you fool yourself into thinking you were the better side in Dublin then I sincerely hope the actual squad is as deluded as you.
by james wilkinson on July 01, 2007
i think that most people commenting on this video mustn't know much about rugby, ireland are obviously one of the favourites, we could easily of won the 2 tests if paddy wallace stayed fit and we put out a decsent pack in the 2nd test, are backline and pack has is full of the best players in the world and not many team can say they have a fullback like murphy or wingers like trimble and hooker like flannery to bring on when needed, not to mention the mad neal best, why can't we win france or argintina in the group stages, player for players we hav got a better player in each position than both the teams, we have the hunger needed to win the WC and can beat any team, we showed that againest the AB last year when missing hickie, easterby and dempsey all 3 key players and to any person who underestimate the irish team they willbe in for a big shock, i had a funny feeling in the 6 nations france would win it and now i have a funny felling that there will be a wallabies v ireland final, i would put money on it
by JohnL on July 03, 2007
pleasehave some respect - if not for argubably one of the worlds best ever centres - then for the life of the game itself. Umaga and Mealamu came far too close to breaking the guys neck for a lot of peoples liking. while clearly no-one hopes it was deliberate or worse still a premeditated attack - at best - it made dreadful watching for all the young budding rugby players and the world in general. To state that it was crybaby tactics is cruel in the extreme. put yourself in his position the next time you have your neck broken .
by John Christie on July 05, 2007
I agree, I think Ireland will be a semi finalist at the world cup. Their form and their rugby ability shows true back line flair and tough forward play which I think will carry them to the semi finals. To win the final though, Ireland would have to perform to a much higher level than they ever have, in the history of their rugby. My feeling is that in a final Ireland will be found out by either the Spring Boc or All Blacks. But I believe Ireland would beat Australia, they would beat them up front and match them out wide. Sad about England though, they show no form at all - zip, zero, nothing! Compared to their champion team of 2003 which had a game that displayed awesome forward control and power and when linked with Wilkinson, made them champions - a team which no one else could beat. There is that dark side of rugby that oversteps the rules when players and teams intentionally set out to intimidate opponents out of the game with ferocious play and cheap shots. I reckon that's what happened to BO
by Noel O Connell on July 10, 2007
Ireland Bottled it that day did not play near to there high standards...In the world cup in france Ireland are going to be firing on all cylinders they have nothing to lose.
by Pumita on October 01, 2007
Hi Donna, what can you say now ?
by Pez on October 01, 2007
"Ireland’s final group game at Parc des Princes on September 30 is against the Pumas - but I'll be astounded if Argentina win that one. They may have one of the fiercest packs of forwards in the international game, but behind the scrum they won’t live with O’Driscoll - surely the world’s best centre - plus the best back division in the Six Nations." Great vision of future, Donna. You must be astounded now, aren´t you?
by daniel polen on October 02, 2007
as usual, most of the EXPERTS have no idea about what they talk about.Not only did we ( PUMAS) beat Ireland with a stick, we showed the world, specially the rugby world that new blood is here to stay, wether you like it or not.Now call it 3 Nations, 6 Nations, whatever you wanna call it, by now everybody realized somebody is missing, somebody that just beat a World Champion and a would be one ( or wanted to be)also.Some clown journalists in Ireland even mocked our National Anthem, well, maybe he will dream with it for the next 4 years, not to mention the pain he surely feels right were the spine changes it's name.Anyway , all sports give a rematch,so maybe we meet again in 4 years, that's if Ireland casifies, becuase I don't know if YOU know, we Pumas already are.keep practicing, you might get there.
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