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by Donna Gee on 07 October 2007
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by Gurschon Le Roe on October 06, 2007
Why did the IRB chose Barnes to ref this game? Surely they must have considered that England could beat Australia? Barnes, like every one of his countrymen would rather play France than NZ in the semis and he clearly blew accordingly. G. Cape Town
by Scott Donaldson on October 07, 2007
You missed the forward pass which most people thought was so obvious that people waited for Barnes to blow the whistle, he never did. Out of his depth and didn't get support from his touch judges. You will notice how there was a lack of penalising the French at the breakdown? I smell gold watch or betting syndicate.
by Brad on October 07, 2007
I knew the poms would win i said before the RWC Aussie wouldnt win with the forward pack they put on the field and i knew the All Blacks would choke. South Africa vs England final possibly the most boring final ever to be played.
by Caroline on October 07, 2007
The New Zealand vs. France quarterfinal in Cardiff was a disgusting example of the way in which the sport of rugby is corrupted. Firstly, the Ref. I know that many fans of the All Blacks will blame the poor referring of Wayne Barnes and I personally agree. He was an absurd choice! He is English, and wouldn’t an English man prefer his team to face France rather than New Zealand in the semi-final? He is an inexperienced ref that was over his head, and does anyone smell a deal between France and Barnes? To some this statement may be ridiculous but think, firstly the sin binning of Luke McAlister for no clear infringement of the law and also the blatant forward pass that secured the French try and victory and the constant neglect of the crimes of the French during the breakdown. These acts all point towards bias and leads to speculation of an immoral deal between Wayne Barnes and desperate France. And the French are well known for immoralities in the forms of “arrangements”, like the shady deals with Scotland an
And the French are well known for immoralities in the forms of “arrangements”, like the shady deals with Scotland and Wales for support in their bid to host the tournament. This World Cup and particularly this quarterfinal demonstrate the degree of desperation of some sides and the ends they will go to gain what they desire.
by peter gaisford on October 07, 2007
At long last a referee prepared to yellow card an all black for taking out a man off the ball. Three Lions tests and not once was this cheating element addressed. Well done Mr Barnes and don't worry about some of the precious all blacks administrators they will always whinge about the ref when they loose!
by Harry Lloyd on October 07, 2007
The All Blacks supposedly streets ahead of all the other teams, couldn't put this decent French team away. Blaming the ref and thinking him biased which smacks of a pretty one-eyed view of the officials. You've got four more years to think about it and will have to do better than that in your responses to the ribbing you'll get over that time. Chokers!
by england to win on October 07, 2007
Face it everyone, England won because the Australian team were already beaten BEFORE they got on to the pitch, England wanted it more. The Kiwi's were always going to lose, they faced a team that had just seen their arch rivals cause an upset and couldn't afford to lose. Also, the kiwi's must stop moaning, one forward pass shouldn't make the difference, they had 80 mins to win and blew it as we all knew they would..Aus and NZ had not one challenge match before this game, Eng and Fr had 2 sudden death games before and were ready.
by Ref supporter on October 07, 2007
Leave the ref alone. He doesn't make the decisions it's the IRB generals. Just like all the kiwis sent to there deaths in Europe in the world wars, they needed to be shown that in war Europe makes the rules.
by Dave on October 07, 2007
Quote by Hamish McBearly 'Whatever the cause, there can now be little doubt that the attacking and confrontational styles of the Southern Hemisphere teams are far superior to anything their Northern rivals can put out on the park. It is now too late for a rethink by the Northern Hemisphere teams to change anything at this tournament, but at least they will have four years to figure it out before 2011 in New Zealand' "Well Hamish what do you say now". The reverse of your argument must also be true-both of the Southern Hemisphere teams New Zealand & Australia have 4 years to figure out what went wrong " Dave Byrne
by Vince on October 07, 2007
Let us investigate the logic behind the IRB... 1) Let us put an English ref in charge because the English might beat Australia and face either France or New Zealand.Any Englishman would play France over New Zealand any day of the week. 2) The South Africans, more likely than not, will reach the final. So let's put a South African touch judge in charge so he can have a little say on the match result. 3) An English touch judge won't be biased at all because he knew on the night that England will have to play the All Blacks if they defeated France. Let me think... why not put a Welsh or Scottish referee in charge. That's for too complicated for the IRB it seems...
by Guy on October 07, 2007
Anton oliver -- comments after the gams “we made uncharacteristic errors…. actually, no, they were characteristic errors, because we were doing the same thing in all the pool games”
by dave on October 07, 2007
I wonder what will happen in four years time? Who will be the teams to beat? And will the poor results of Australia and New Zealand this tournament set some things into motion?
by John Christie on October 07, 2007
I thought the AB performance was pretty pathetic. The French played with tenacity but that was all. For the AB's to have 70% possession and play like that was pathetic considerign their form over the past 3 years. Were they afraid of French flair? - did they choke? Also a few selections in the side were a bit strange - I personally throught they would put 50 on the French and in trun the French would put 30 or so back on the AB's - based on what we have seen to the point before this game. A poor show New Zealand - I'm one disappointed Kiwi AB fan! NB - I hate the way the players were allowed to contract themselves out during this RWC year ie make all the arrangements etc - were their minds truely on the job at hand! Clearly NOT
Why did the AB's not back themselves to outscore France - after all they score more tries than any other team - That first half hour of kicking proved to be a waste of prescious time. I'm not interested in the ref! With 70% possession the ref SHOULD NOT have mattered. Let him make his mistakes he is the one that looks a d..k afterwards! - Why was Howlett not selected on form? why was Jack not selected to start? where was Aaron Magure our most experianced mid field player? Why was Mils at Centre? What were the coaches thinking! What did they feed into the players heads before this game?? Graham Henry I fear you went too far (in terms of not playing the combinations) Ali Williams played well - a true All Black - Dan Carter - where is your form? The AB forwards were not aggressive enough to suck in the French players and then free the ball for the AB backs to go wild with it. It was a poor show NZ.
Scott - dont blame it all the ref mate - the game was their to be taken - the AB's failed today. Rugby is a tough sport! It was great to see England play well and they did play well - back to their old style game - That's it for me! See Ya all later :)
Those silver black AB jerseys were horrible! Why have we changed from the old alternate strip of white and black fern? Why mess with our national team outfits!
by Paul Ho on October 07, 2007
To be brutally honest about it. The All Blacks (Our team) are chokers, we failed to play to our potential. And Deep down inside we know that we do not believe we can be champions until we win the world cup. There is no use fooling ourselves because it doesn't help us to become a champion. All blacks is a great team in playing normal test matches. But I've come to a realisation that World cup finals are at least 2 levels above normal test matches in intensity, and We are not good at it. Our guys play test matches all the time, and thats how they become good at it, but you can only play 3 finals every 4 weeks. And for a top player, they probably could only do it 6 times in their career, and probably less for a lot of them. Lets admit that and cop it on the chin so we can move on. I love my team, I just know that they are not there. Fellow supporters, I urge you to do the same rather than holding that grudge for 4 more years, coz it may be longer than that unless the brain trust finds the answer - which I thou
every 4 years, not every 4 weeks.. Sorry
by Patrice H on October 07, 2007
You've got the world's best team and the best game. You should be fear play and admit the victory of the French. What a fantastic match!!
The ref IS one sided. He failed to see any forward pass less than 30 degrees. I can think of AT LEAST two AB forward passes in the first half and one in the second which he didn't blow. Agreed they did not have an influence on the outcome of the gamem butif they had, maybe the french would be crying "Biased english swine"
by Brad on October 08, 2007
Why blame the ref thats pathetic its actually weak the All Blacks were simply outplayed in the years between the RWC there a 40 point better team but you put them in a pressure cooker game youll find there not great players there would be's if they could be players and to be honest im sick of hearing about how sad the New Zealand public will be get a life im an ex kiwi living in Australia there is more to life than rugby its suppose to be enjoyable to watch the All Blacks dont owe the NZ public anything they did the hard work to get that All Black jersey its just a shame the dont have a John Eales a true legend who stand up when hes counted no crumbles because hes got no brains!
by Doug Dell on October 08, 2007
Nice darts. The best teams get the finals. If its boring, then tough. They will be the best teams the rugby world can produce. The "make up numbers" will be "excitedly" watching the boring champions from somewhere at the bottom of the world.
by M on October 08, 2007
Well said Paul ho, the only kiwi that I know that has not made excuses, well said
by nick on October 09, 2007
Please please please get real here, it was only sensational because of the abysmal referring by Barne in the All Blacks game, and yes michalak did 'turn' the result (not the game) through the forward pass. a poor result for the sport, and a joke for the rwc.
get a grip on reality. france were rubbish
by IRBman on October 09, 2007
Donna, you should really take a break from pretending to know about Rugby, and head off to the kitchem where you belong. Isnt there any tidying up that needs doing? The majority of your articles are rubbish, so please give Sportingos readers a break from your idiocy. Australians were upset with the loss I guess, but mainly because unlike England, they arent used to losing. I hope Chabal takes out "Golden-boy"...who'll score points for England then?
by Brad on October 09, 2007
The Aussie are pretty much over it now mainly because union is probably number 4 sport in Aus behind AFL, League and Cricket!
by simdix on October 09, 2007
Please let me speak up for the author in response to your completely unjustified sexist abuse. Whatever your opinion on the authorship (which is clearly negative), there is surely no call for such demaining attitudes. MayI remind you that it says in big letters when posting that PERSONAL ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. I humbly recommend that you post an apology and if you have problems with what Donna or any other author has written, then make cogent points saying what you think is wrong and why. And maybe you'd like to take a stab at writing and posting a full article yourself? Maybe you worried that some boor like youwill wade in with unjustified personal abuse instead of constructive criticism? C'mon, we're all rugby fans, surely we can do better than this?
by Saxon Paige Vickers-Buckley on October 09, 2007
SIMDIX: IRBman is a a chap who used to abuse me and others over on the association football side of things: then, using another name, he'd say roughly the same thing, id est, "isn't there some ironing that needs doing" or "vaccuum the carpets". A couple of times his abuse veered into suggesting the work that needed doing involved pleasuring his member; though he failed to advise whether magnifying glass and tweezers might be in order. The gentleman is less than bright, believing me a man, until I informed him that Saxon is (and always has been) a name used by either sex, and Paige really ought to have given the game away. It was then the amusing remarks, e.g. "go buy some Persil", began.
by Rod Peters on October 10, 2007
Paul Ho - The world cup is certianly not "2 levels above a normal test match for intensity" what a load of rubbish. Granted their is more pressure to win a tornament but to say there is more intensity on the field is simply incorrect. Test matches are played with all out effort as are world cup matches
by Thierry Dusautoir on October 12, 2007
French pride and skill too much for all Black choker. About time official stand up to cheating all blacks like Richie mccaw. You derserve to lose and have many more player yellow card
by Douglas on October 28, 2007
Mock NZ and Australia all you want but a southern hemisphere country still won the World Cup, and the Southern Hemisphere has won 5 of 6 World Cups. And yes, the Northerners still play the ugliest rugby.
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