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by Liz Hinds on 13 October 2007
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by Brad on October 12, 2007
England vs Argentina would be the death of rugby what a boring game. I hope South Africa win they are the best team in the world at the moment, it would be pretty sad if England won the final especially when there game revolves around conversions and drop goals its terrible style to watch! France v South Africa would be a better game to watch. The recent failure of the wallabies will be the death of union in Australia its a struggling sport here so much so there poaching league players.
by steve pike on October 12, 2007
Dear Brad The English game does not revolve around 'conversions and drop goals' (for the record a Conversion can only be scored after a try). The English game revolves around the forwards dominating possesion - Possession is 9/10ths of the law. Fiji and Wales play good running rugby - neither of them will win anything. So stop moaning - admitt that you lost to the better team, and come back when you are good enough.
by John Christie on October 12, 2007
Steve Pike - I wish possession were 9/10ths of the law - but in todays game it's not! The All Blacks had 77% possession and were beaten! The All Blacks have won many times with less than even possession. Rugby is a complex and thrilling game with many variables that allow many different player skills to shine. Agentina, England what a game it would be. NB: Come on Brad lighten up mate!
John Christie - Possession IS 9/10ths of the Law, but only if you combine it with bottle. Dont get me wrong, I have a great deal of respect for the All Blacks, I even have an AB shirt. But if you turn up to a world cup 1/4 final thinking you have a devine right to win - there is an excellent chance you will get beat. For me the AB's are still the best team in the world and still play the best Rugby. You only have yourselves to blaime because you lost your bottle. I am certain you win WC 2011
by Johan on October 12, 2007
perhaps coach jake white was clever to rest his team during the tri-nations, despite the uotcry from australia and the all blacks. any event,south africa should be good enough to topple the pumas on sunday. then the final !! will they be strong enough to take on the french or the english? perhaps not. their pool performances against tonga and fidji clearly exposed some major flaws in the way they play and absorb hard hits. lets hope that the southern hemisphere is favoured with the cup !!
Steve Pike - dont be certain the AB's will win in Auckland in 2011 - This has proved that nothing is certain. We were confident based on performance and form. Kiwis dont back the AB's when they are not playing well. We complain about them! There were great reasons to believe they would win or come very close. This is a monumental failure from our team.
by Anna on October 12, 2007
especially since Wales is out, but it's true -- England are playing like winners this world cup! Think your prediction for the final could come true, you know...
by Mike on October 12, 2007
Of course we'd all like to see fast open games, lots of skills, tries, but from quarter finals on, that rarely happens. But what drama! Three out of last week's games were so close, either side could have won: all were tense, gripping games, and even enjoyable in a perverse sort of way. There was only the ABs that had the potential to set the competition alight, and they blew it (again). The last four are all battle hardened realists - so I'm not expecting too much fancy stuff over the next week.
And I have to add that the last five minutes of the Aus vs England 2003 final and last week's game demonstrates why the Aussies can't win. In 2003, England had the ball in their own 22, and with collective wit and wisdom, worked it slowly but purposefully to the position where Johnny could do his thing. All of them understood what they were doing and how to go about it. Compare that with the Aussies last week who, had they had the sense to realise it, could have progressed through the same set of plays in the last few minutes. But no, they panicked, they had no collective sense of purpose, no one directing them, and the best they could achieve was a very ambitious drop kick attempt from close to halfway. The best team won, on both occasions.
Well Aussie are no show at the 2011 RWC if there super 14 teams are anything to judge by and for New Zealand you hope there a chance but i doubt it i think most of this years players will still be there but will they be to mentally scarred?
by bruce on October 13, 2007
After the All Blacks were denied in such a disgraceful way, and the Wallabies missed one too many kicks, theres only one convincing team left -South Africa. Its a shame Argentina is playing them because the Argies would beat France or England. The final will be a horrible mis-match unless the officials hijack it.
by John Christie on October 13, 2007
Who can predict 2011! I'll personally never try it again :) - what a joke it is! The All Blacks have been the best team by a country mile for years, winning almost everything except the world cup. What does it mean? I have no idea - but I just loving being a Kiwi and watching the AB's play rugby!
by thanyi on October 15, 2007
I'll bet u anything south africa r gonna take the world cup
by Leonardo on October 16, 2007
I think this could be the first world cup in a long time that isn't decided by drop goals. Had the forward pass been called in the game against the france and NZ, it would be the AB lifting the trophy, or would they have choked in the final again? Would have been great to see SA vs NZ in the final great running rugby and a really exciting finish to a world cup. I think that england dont have the backs to create anything and with players like Bryan Habana on the wing for South Africa the will be tries scored. kicking from Johnny will keep them in the game but after the third try is scored by SA the game will be out of reach and england will crumble. They done have a plan B
by Pete on October 18, 2007
On thing I enjoy about the SA fans is that they are fair minded - they know the AB's were unlucky and unlike the Poms they dont throw unwarranted crap at us all day! Therefore I hope SA win the RWC - Even in my place of work the SA fans are humble
by alan on October 20, 2007
I think England's forwards will ensure that more of the game is played in the opposing half of the field. Every SA infringement will then be kickable. It may be a calculating/percentage way to play, but we are in the final. Expansive Rugby doesn't seem likely from either side. It will be tight, hard, defensive. It will be gripping.
by Leonardo on October 22, 2007
I think England had a great game and can be proud of their efforts but in the end the better team won. SA proved saturday that they could even beat England, the masters of the kicking game, at their on game. Wasn't a spectical but was great to see a close finish to the world cup, would have been disapointing to see another 36-0 score. Well lets see what the goverment does to the SA squad, this could possible be the last time the SA team is chosen on merit
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