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by Craig Hackney on 17 April 2007
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by Gerg on April 17, 2007
Botham the greatest allrounder, heard of Garfield Sobers? Keith Miller? How can you know WC Grace and not know this. Tool.
by Craig Hackney on April 17, 2007
I think you may have missed the point of the article, and it's a completely subjective argument anyway. And is Gerg really your name or do you have trouble spelling Greg? Thanks for your comment.
There are otherwise many good points, quite a comprehensive article on the spirit of the game. Cricket may no longer be the gentlemens game but if you compare in light of what goes on in other sports it doesn't look so bad. Who can forget the Zidane and Matterazi (sp?) incident that resulted in a HEADBUTT. I doubt such a thing could happen in cricket
by Craig hackney on April 17, 2007
On eflection it was a bit of a silly statement that I really didn't think through. I was just wanting to use Botham as an example and I threw in the rest without really thinking about it. It has been edited to soften the statement. Good idea for an article though - I'll do my research first!
Very salient point about how everyone wants their team to win. Take England's selection of Nixon, as you say his basis for selection was based on his ability to get under the other teams skin. Shaun Tait is one who could take a look at himself in the mirror, Ganguly and Harbijan are past masters at sledging, etc etc. Most fans are quite comfortable when its their team dishing it out. My apologies for the tool insult. Cheers, Gerg.
by Craig H on April 17, 2007
Getting people to admit that all sides do it is the problem. If you read some of the comments on this site, you would believe that no-one from the sub-continent has ever said a harsh word on the field. No worries about the comment, if it was the worst thing that I've been called I'd be a happy bloke. Cheers.
by Essex Girl on April 17, 2007
Nice article, I was dissapointed not to see great SL bowlers not playing. They have 15 players, they use 11 of them so what! But this is what got me rolling on the floor laughing. Graig writes "There are however,still isolated instances to give hope to those beleive such things are important.Adam Gilchrist became known as the a serial "walker" even when given not out by umpires most famously in the 2003 World Cup Semi-final against Sri-Lanka. Ha Ha Ha, please stop it,I can't laugh anymore. Read the article in Guardian on the 19th March 2003. Titled,"Australia Provide the biggest shock of the world cup" 19/3/2003 by John Stern,Guardian.
Article by John Stern in Port Elizabeth,for Guardian, 19/03/2003 regarding the "noble act" by St. Adam, I quote "The Australian captain Ponting admitted that he and his team mates had been surprised by Gilchrist's action. "He said he didn't see Rudi Koertzen giving it not out. He knew he'd edged it so he walked off." Asked if Gilchrist had started a trend,he said:"No,I certainly won't be encouraging any of my players to do it". All donations to church of St Adam whilst waiting for the second coming of the "Gilchrist" please.
Article by Nick Rippington 31/05/99 for London Independent paper regarding tactics used by Australian Team at a super 6 stage "Under the competition rules, it actually benefit the Australians if the West Indies rather than NewZeland qualify for the next round. Team that make it to the Super 6 takes with them the points they gained against their fellow qualifiers and for Australia that means 2(for beating WI instead of none after loosing to NZ. The Australian crawl actually improved the WI runrate" Australians should be flattered instead of whinging. Little brown guys learned from masters of dirty tricks. Get over it you whinging Aussies. You too Chapell.
by Freddie on April 17, 2007
Well, now that I've done my duty to England (got all the wickets of the match with SA)I'd like to say 2 things. Leave my hero Botham out of this and Graig, "Belligerent,toad-like Arjuna Ranatunga" ehh,a bit personal for a journalist isn't it? Belligerent(your words) Arjuna was defending my friend Murali your umpires and contrymen almost destroyed.There comes a point we all have to stand up to bullies. Arjuna did just that.Warrior more like.Now talking of umpires, Darrel Hair,umpire with such intergrity, wouldn't you agree?
Graig, what's with you Aussies and reffering to animals when you got the hump with Srilankans? First, McGrath calling Sanath Jayasuriya "a black monkey", and you calling World Cup winning Srilankan captain Arjuna, "Toad Like"(is toad an animal? never did Zoology)Please note Australian players and (all you Aussie "Cricket fans" who shout abuse using words describing sexual organs and call us Black,Brown,Blue whatever, we understand that you don't have your own language so it must be hard for you, not to be repetitive.Whatever makes you feel superior,we are happy for you.As long as you don't start calling us Aussies.
by Craig H on April 18, 2007
HI EG & Freddie, I wasn't criticisng any of the players named in the article - quite the opposite. My point was that it's not just Aussies who do it, although they are the only ones who ever cop any flak. I never considered Gilly a saint for walking - an idiot more like, it could have cost us the WC. And no problem with Arjuna either, he certainly didn't mind a scrap but maybe it was more a bullfrog look. Maybe he only behaved like that in Aus but it was more often the just the Murali incident.
And why is it okay for SL fans to call them tigers or lions or can we only use the animals that meet with the self image of the individual(s) in question? The comment had nothing to do with Arjuna's race, just his physical shape, one which I share and have been called most of the names that he has - including the fat c... tag from Ian Healy. Criticising someone who has a different skin colour is not racism - criticising because he has a different skin colour is.
by Essex Girl on April 18, 2007
SL flag has a lion,the majority race from SL are called "Singhalese" translates as Lion's blood.Decendents of a loose cannon son of a regional king and his "gangsta" friends who found their way to SL over 2500 years ago.Only people from SL who call themselves Tigers are LTTE Terrorists.Maybe because Southern India has the highest number of Tigers or they think Tigers are powerful than Lions? I personally prefer Elephant as a symbol to represent all races of SL.I did not bring up race, I said SL people.Considering what they say on SL cricket forums about Arjuna, Toad is probably too kind.Nevertheless, he did stand up to bullying and made the tougher SL team we have today. So,Tait can open his mouth to sledge again and get a mouthful of flies,nothingelse
Thanks EG, interesting stuff. Apologies for misinterpreting your point, the distinction is a subtle one. I actually admired Arjuna for his approach with the Aussies, it's rare that anyone stands up to them and gives it back, but strangely I think that they respect those who do. Tait's a fast bowler - and not a particularly good one - he doesn't have the wit to come up with clever sledges. I still believe that having him in the side will cost Australia dearly in one of these games, let's hope it's not the final.
by Lahiru on April 18, 2007
I like your article and think it has a lot of truth to it. Yes, cricket is all about winning. And definitely, the Aussies have perfected the art of winning and other countries might be a little hypocritical when talking about sportsmanship. But, its clear that you hate the Sri Lankan team as evidenced by your choice of words: "belligerent, toad-like Arjuna Ranatunga" If it wasn't for the mentioned bias, I would have been swayed by your argument. Ranatunga was rightfully angry as his teammate Murali was mistreated. Your writing is good, your points hold merit but you should try to keep your personal feelings out of your articles. Finally, CRICKET IS JUST A GAME... CAN'T WE JUST ENJOY THE GAME AND STOP TRASHING EACH OTHERS' COUNTRIES. WE'RE NOT AT WAR HERE, WE'RE PLAYING A SPORT FOR CHRIS'SAKE...
Thanks for the comment, please reead my other comments below for an explanation of the Ranatuga description. I don't hate the SL team, I think they play wonderful cricket, but Australia always seemed to bring out the aggressive side of Arjuna. Maybe pugnacious may have been a better word. On the village green, cricket is just a game but, sadly, no longer at international level. Thanks again.
by Budhaditya Roy on April 18, 2007
Craig, I think we shall agree to disagree again on a few points :) 1) West Indies of the 70s and 80s were a champion side and loved, because they never engaged in on-field abuse. Australia today is probably better, but then why is it that they aren't liked? 2) Why was the Aussie press and Steve Waugh so angry with Ganguly then, when he was playing 'mind-games' by arriving late for the toss everytime? Why did Steve Waugh feel so bad when he got a taste of his own medicine? 3) When the focus is to sledge and play mind-games, we see that taken one step further. Thanks to people like Lehmann, ICC had to state thet racism doesn't deserve a place in the sport when one thought that it's understood. And WG Grace was a great 'county' cricketer. His test record is nothing to boast of. I don't understand why is it that his name is always dragged in when we talk of international TEST cricketers. One may look at wins and try to justify all that a winning team engages in on the field,
Srilanka is the West Indies of the Indian Subcontinent. We love our Cricket, we love our music (noise), we love to party (when we can fit that inbetween war). Racism has no place in the 21st Century.Let's hope Australians will join the 21st century soon. As for the comment on "no on field abuse" by West Indies in the 70's & 80's, maybe SL players didn't understand the language English not being our first language and all that.Maybe they didn't understand Botham's accent or David Gower didn't understand what they were saying. (a joke). Anyway most Srilankans think Aussies are a bit simple so we tolerate their very limited vocabulary consist of reference to sexual organs and colours.One day, we will be able to watch the great team of Aussies playing great matches with their traps shut. Until that day, Win or loose, we booze. LANKA BOYS ALL DA WAY.
We're still coming to terms with the 20th one!!!! Sounds like a wonderful place, hope to come and visit one day. look forward to playing your full team in the final.
I was still getting used to us agreeing about something last week - I knew it couldn't last. I think you may see too much good in people. The Windies of the 70 & 80's were no where near as bad as the current Aussie side, but they weren't angels either and knew the value of a good sledge. I think you're a bit harsh on WG too, those were different times. The racism thing bothers me, because it is never too far away from these discussions. MAybe time for some research for next weeks article!