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by Cort Reynolds on 06 December 2007
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Although Roger Federer probably wasn’t at 100 per-cent effectiveness, focus and strength, it is apparent that Pete Sampras still can compete with the game’s top player(s) in an exhibition format.
If Pistol Pete, at 36 and not in top match condition, had to work his way through seven matches over a Grand Slam fortnight, I don’t think there is any way he could win or go too far - even at Wimbledon with its short points and the emphasis on serving, one of his greatest strengths.
But in a one or two-match format he is still formidable due to his huge first AND second serve, his big forehand, size and athletic ability, big-match experience and ability to raise his level on the most important points. After all, that is what usually sets the top players apart due to the game’s unique scoring system. The players at the top who play the biggest points best almost always win, be it in tiebreakers or ad games.
Against Federer, Sampras showed his forehand still to be very heavy and penetrating, and the Swiss master had trouble handling and reading his serve as well. Many times Federer was frozen or leaning the wrong way as Pistol Pete’s serve whizzed by.
He seemed unable to tell where Sampras’ serve was headed, partly because the American varied his angles and targets well, and also because of a lack of match play against Pete that would have allowed him to anticipate his shots more readily. Before the two embarked on their three-match tour, they had only played each other once, when Federer ended the veteran’s Wimbledon win streak in 2001.
At the time, Sampras prophetically predicted that Federer would become the next superstar of tennis, although it would take a few years before he would realise his enormous potential. Because Pete is Roger’s idol, it probably was hard for him to play all-out all the time against someone who hasn’t been on the tour in several years, too. Particularly after a long, grueling tennis season.
After rallying from 3-4 down to win the first set of their opening match, Federer rolled on to win nine of the last 12 games as Sampras clearly lacked that big-match play edge to his game. His solid play on the senior tour did not quite prepare him for the higher level that Federer plays on.
But in match two, Sampras began to hit his stride yet couldn’t overcome Roger in a tiebreaker. In match three, Pete finally broke through mentally and physically. His huge running forehand is still one of the best in the world, as is his second serve. Pete played the big points well in the tiebreakers, which he won both sets the third time around.
Sampras is a little mentally tougher than Federer, and I see that as the only real chink in his armour. Roger has not really been challenged consistently by any foe. When he is expected to win and gets in a close match he tends to tighten up some still, like in the 2004 Olympics. He still wins a lot of matches by opponents being intimidated and losing close matches because of that, his skill level and grace, and seeming unflappable invincibility.
Sampras was hardened by the death of his coach Tim Gullikson at a crucial formative point in mid-career, and that event really spurred him on to be more serious and tough about his game. Rivalries with Andre Agassi, Patrick Rafter and other fine Americans like Jim Courier and Michael Chang also made him mentally tougher than Federer, who lacks such foes and is so smooth he makes things look too easy.
I contend that the Bjorn Borg-John McEnroe-Jimmy Connors era (and throw in Guillermo Vilas on clay) was the peak of tennis in terms of competitiveness, skill and mental toughness. The points had to be constructed better due to less power and it’s unlikely that there ever was a time when so many truly great players were at or near the peak of their game at the same time.
Although it helped push them, it also limited the number of Grand Slam titles each won. Had they played in a lesser-crowded field at the top such as now (and all played the Australian annually), each of the three would have won many more Slams.
Part 2What would happen if an all-time (open era) round-robin tennis tournament were held on different surfaces? Choosing the top eight players on grass, hard court and clay is the first task.
Here is my list on grass: Pete Sampras, Roger Federer, Rod Laver, Bjorn Borg, John McEnroe, Boris Becker, Stefan Edberg, Jimmy Connors (apologies to John Newcombe, Stan Smith, Rafter, Goran Ivanisevic) On clay: Bjorn Borg, Ivan Lendl, Mats Wilander, Gustavo Kuerten, Thomas Muster, Sergi Bruguera, Jim Courier, Rafael Nadal (apologies to Courier, Chang and Agassi). And on hard courts: Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi, John McEnroe, Jimmy Connors, Ivan Lendl, Roger Federer, Stefan Edberg, Boris Becker.
Note that no player made all three surface lists. Rod Laver is the only man to win the Grand Slam (twice, in 1962 and 1969) in the past 70 years, although in his time all but the French Open were played on grass. So he played very little on hard courts. As such, it is a little harder to judge his game, plus I never saw him live due to my youth and his age. Agassi won the career slam. Sampras, Federer (at least not yet) and McEnroe never won the French clay.
Each player would play everyone else once on each surface, best three out of five, to determine seeding for a single-elimination tourney. Here is what I think might ensue:
Grass: Sampras #1, Laver #2, McEnroe #3, Federer #4, Becker #5, Borg #6, Connors #7, Edberg #8. Quarter-finals: Sampras 3 sets, Edberg 1; Laver 3 sets, Connors 2; McEnroe 3 sets, Borg 2; Federer 3 sets, Becker 2. Semi-finals: Sampras 3, Federer 2; McEnroe 3, Laver 2. Final: Sampras 3, McEnroe 2 Clay: Borg #1, Nadal #2, Vilas #3; Wilander #4; Lendl #5; Kuerten #6; Muster #7; Bruguera #8. Quarter-finals: Borg 3 sets, Bruguera 1; Nadal 3 sets, Muster 2; Wilander 3 sets, Kuerten 1; Muster 3 sets, Lendl 2. Semi-finals: Borg 3, Muster 1; Nadal 3, Wilander 2. Final: Borg 3, Nadal 2 Hard: Sampras #1, Federer #2, Lendl #3, Connors #4, Agassi #5, McEnroe #6, Edberg #7, Becker #8. Quarter-finals: Sampras 3, Becker 1; Federer 3, Edberg 2; McEnroe 3, Lendl 2; Connors 3, Agassi 2. Semi-finals: Sampras 3, Connors 2; Federer 3, McEnroe 2;.Final: Federer 3, Sampras 2.Or if you took the top eight consensus players and made them play on all three surfaces, what would happen? The top eight - Sampras, Federer, Laver, McEnroe, Connors, Agassi, Borg, Lendl (just missed-Becker, Edberg). Sampras-#1 on grass, # 2 hard court, #8 on clay = 11 total score; Federer-#4 on grass, #1 hard court, #5 on clay=10; McEnroe-#2 on grass, #4 hard court, #6 clay=12; Connors-#6 grass, #3 hard court, #7 clay=16; Laver-#4 grass, #3 clay, #6 hard=14; Borg-#5 grass, # #1 clay, #8 hard=14; Lendl-#8 grass, #3 clay, #5 hard=16; Agassi-#7 grass, #6 hard, #4 clay=17. Overall rankings - peak: 1) Federer 2) Sampras 3) McEnroe 4) Borg 5) Laver 6) Connors 7) Agassi 8) Lendl. Overall rankings - career: 1) Connors 2) Sampras 3) Borg 4) Agassi 5) Federer 6) Laver 7) McEnroe 8) Lendl.Mental toughness: Borg, Connors, McEnroe, Laver, Sampras, Federer, Lendl, Agassi. Athleticism: 1) Borg 2) Sampras 3) Federer 4) Connors 5) Laver 6) McEnroe 7) Lendl 8) Agassi: Speed/Fitness: 1) Borg 2) Federer 3) Connors 4) Laver 5) Sampras 6) McEnroe 7) Agassi 8) Lendl. Serve: 1) Sampras 2) McEnroe 3) Federer 4) Laver. Volleying: 1) McEnroe 2) Laver 3) Sampras. Shot making: 1) Federer 2) McEnroe 3) Agassi.
Tennis intelligence: 1) McEnroe 2) Borg. Competitiveness: 1) Connors (the Pete Rose of tennis) 2) Borg 3 McEnroe. Best rivalries: 1) Borg v McEnroe 2) Borg v Connors 3) Sampras v Agassi 4) McEnroe v Connors5) Federer v Nadal.
Comments (23)
by guyg on December 06, 2007
pete is d best,rafa is next.
by fredy on December 06, 2007
LAver won the slam twice so that puts him ahead of the pack. Borg won 6 titles in Paris and 5 Wimbledon back to back.tough to do. Federer has made the finals of ALL 4 slams and won 3 for the past 2 years and had it not been for Nadal ,Federer would have won there and ended the whole GOAT talk and won more than Sampras. McEnroe gets the nod for making the finals inParis despite the fact that he choked and lost the finals after being 2 sets and a break up! Sampras managed just 1 title on red clay in Rome and beat a bunch of tier 2 dirtballers;he's win in Rome was nothing but a fluke imo! He made it to just 1 semis in Paris and hasn't been even the 2nd best player on clay like Federer is. You've got to perform well on ALL surfaces and beat the best of them even on your least favorite surface. Sampras never tried hard enough to win Paris,blamed it on racket and his S/V game.He never showed the heart for it but he's expressing plenty of regrets now that's he's looked back and see what he failed to do. Connors t
by Frank on December 06, 2007
What dont you understand about it was an exhibition?
by Jim Catton on December 06, 2007
My comment pertains to the list you have for the section called "Overall Rankings: Career. On the whole, the list was reasonable. One might argue that the consistency of Federer's career (thus far) and his superior production in majors should earn him a place ahead of Agassi (despite Agassi's career grand slam). However, there is no objective way you can place McEnroe ahead of Lendl as a singles player (you've put McEnroe 7th and Lendl 8th). Just look at the facts: Head to Head matches---Lendl wins 21-15; Number of years as #1---Lendl wins 270 to 170; Number of grand slam singles victories---Lendl wins 8 to 7; Number of appearances in grand slam finals---Lendl wins 19 to 11; Number of singles tournaments won---Lendl wins 94 to 77; number of singles matches won during a comparable career span---Lendl wins 1071 to 864. McEnroe was supremely talented (his season in 1984 really showed us that) but over the course of his career he left much of his potential unrealized. If you look at the facts of their a
by rob on December 07, 2007
this guy got no clue about tennis...let me just say this..
by stan lee on December 07, 2007
Hi Why are people talking about Pete or Roger as the greatest. To me Rocket Rod reigns supreme. Look at his achievements! Were it not for that stupid rules barring him between 1962 and 1969 he couls won far more grand slams. As for Roger, where are his opponents of real class - only Nadal and he is a clay specialist. Roger will go on and win many more slams but so far no one can match on non-clay surfaces. Look at the opponents Pete faced - Lendl, Edberg, Rafter, Agassi, Becker and Ivanisevic - every one great grass or hard court players.
by dolan on December 08, 2007
fedex is the goat . .
by sabarish on December 08, 2007
As futile as it always is to compare champions across generations it is a folly that cannot be helped. I once read article which put up an interesting question as the paameter for testing greatness. It goes something like this- "if your life were to depend upon the result of a tennis match, who will you chose to represent you, regardless of the surface?" My answer to that question is easy - Federer. Maybe Laver, but he never faced his great contemporaries at their peaks in those GS sweeps.
by Feddy on December 08, 2007
Hey The total comments are biased to Pete as he is an american. Please stop making these kind of articles which is biased one-sided. Be genuine to some one whose talent is unsurpassable and be pleased to be living in an era of Federer. One must be very honest in accepting the fact that Federer is a rare tennis skill ever(you will agree if you have atleast minimal Tennis knowledge). Comaparing McEnroe,Connors ahead of Federer itself show your very litte tennis knowledge. Please post articles that are true and not your personal opinions.....
by punkyboy on December 08, 2007
No question in my mind...Mac's the greatest because he brought so darn many people to the game of tennis like no one else, save Connors. And, unlike Connors, McEnroe had technical brilliance to boot. Say what you will about our greatest tennis players over time - we know them all - but Mac did for tennis what Ali did for boxing. And much thanks to them for that!
by Bgamebawler on December 08, 2007
I love these debates. There is, of course, no way to tell. But I do think that the Sampras serve, with his volleys, make him so tough to beat. I would make him the greastest of all time.
by t.k.s on December 09, 2007
Thanks 'Feddy' for your opinion. Mine is like you, please 'the author' stop writing and showing your personel ideas. People in countries around the world admire 'Federer' and pay him so much respect. Some praise him as 'GOAT' in tennis. It's pity that there's only one big nation most people don't know 'Federer'. Like the famous american magazine 'SI' never lets 'Roger' print on its cover including being a sportman of the year which most american athletes always do. I guess,for 'Roger' himself, he doesn't care about it, he got many more rewards from others. And to be known to people around the world is much better or the best. Right!
by Garrett Parker on December 10, 2007
Enjoyable article, although I agree with the comment about Lendl's accomplishments in singles outstripping McEnroe's. The real problem here is how do you compare a player like Laver, who would be almost a midget amongst today's crop of 6'2" players, against a Federer or Sampras? Further, the equipment is so far advanced now that the sport itself is almost a different one, requiring a different set of skills. Frankly, I don't think a younger clone of Laver, playing nowadays would have the physical ability to crack the world's top 5. But was he less skillful than Sampras, for instance? Was McEnroe less skillful than Nadal? For that matter, was Tilden less skillful than Federer? No way to measure that, mate!
by Jim Catton on December 10, 2007
This comment is in respectful response to Mr. Parker's statement that a 5'8 155lb "younger clone of Rod Laver" could not physically compete against the "giants" in the current top five. Why not? Look at the current top 5: #4 Davydenko is 5'10 154lbs; #5 Ferrer is 5'9 155lbs; there are 5 players under 6 feet in the top 10. Did small palyers like a 5'8 160lbs Michael Chang have problems against a 6'1 170lb Sampras? (Chang was a respectable 8-12 against Sampras in his career). Chang was also had excellent records against 6'4 185lbs Ivanisevic (6-5 for Chang); 6'5 200lbs Todd Martin(5-2 for Chang); and 6'1 185lbs Jim Courier (series tied 12-12). My Point: there is ample evidence to prove that very talented smaller players can compete at the highest levels in any era. If all things were eqaul (i.e., training, tour, and technology)there is no reason to believe that Rod Laver couldn't compete very successfully today.
by Tommy Millsaps on December 11, 2007
Very interesting topic: I agree with the author that the Borg/Connors/McEnroe era was probably the "best" era in that you had three really great players in their prime with very different personalities. I was impressed with Pete being able to play Federer close twice in the exhibitions and beat him once. But I think if they played in their prime on three surfaces, here's my picks: Grass: Federer/Sampras...that's a pick 'em with McEnroe, Borg following. I am simply too young to have seen Laver but he obviously needs a mention. Hardcourts: Federer would beat Sampras more handily then people thing except just on a super hot serving day. Clay: Borg, Nadal, Vilas.... Given the fact that Federer is so dominant on grass and hardcourt and is no worse then second best currently on clay---I have to rank him best all time.
by Garrett Parker on December 13, 2007
Thanks,Jim Catton. You make a good point about some smaller players being able to compete effectively at the highest levels. On the women's side Henin is rapidly staking her claim as the best of the decade, Williams sisters notwithstanding. I expect it would be much tougher for a 5'8 male to dominate today than it is for the almost 5'6 Henin. But your point is taken -- a Laver clone very likely would be a top 5 player today, given his remarkable skills.
by NP on December 15, 2007
Cort, yours is one of the most objective, balanced tennis rankings I've seen so far. My only major beef is that, as you admit yourself, we the younger generation of tennis fans never had a chance to see Laver play, so it's probably not fair to rank him purely based on our personal judgment. (As you know a LOT of tennis experts would challenge your assessment.) But I agree with your top 4 (peak), though I might be willing to put Borg ahead of McEnroe (despite the latter's obvious phenomenal natural talent).